Russia Ukraine Update Thread - part 3

originally posted by: JAY1980
You want me to believe this isn't that?

It seems to me that people will believe what they want, even if presented with contrary evidence.

The Russians have made a play for the Nazi Ukrainians, the Jewish Nazi and other combinations. "De-nazification" was one of their original excuses for the war they started. The Russians see Nazis everywhere, except when they look in the mirror.

At some point, it's appropriate to sit back and contemplate who is playing who, and why?

Has Putin find how to control Elon Musk ?


Musk’s SpaceX says it can no longer pay for critical satellite services in Ukraine, asks Pentagon to pick up the tab.


What caused the change of he`s desire to Help Ukraine ? He claims it because it cost too much money.

Estimated net worth of $254 billion as of August 2022, making him the richest person in the world, according to Bloomberg. He is nearly $90 billion ahead of the man in second place, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos.

Elon Musk in 2022: What to know about the world’s richest person

originally posted by: LouisCypher

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
To be fair, they’re likely using B team in case the war has new players enter.

b team for beta males ? when you want to win a war you send your best . russia did and they fell apart . if new player enter there wont be one russian soldier left alive in ukraine , the russian army is a joke....

U less he's following tsun zu

That is exactly the tactics he suggested

Feign weakness until your enemy fully commits and then send in the full might to over run and crush them

Not saying this is for sure but....it's def possible

13 October Update

Key Takeaways

* Public reports of the first deaths of ill-prepared mobilized Russian troops in Ukraine have sparked renewed criticism of the Russian military command.

* Russian forces continued to launch strikes on critical Ukrainian infrastructure on October 13.

* Increasingly degraded morale, discipline, and combat capabilities among Russian troops in combat zones in Ukraine may be leading to temporary suspensions in offensive operations in limited areas.

* Ukrainian forces made gains northwest of Svatove.

* Russian forces are continuing defensive operations in anticipation of potential Ukrainian attacks towards Kreminna.

* Ukrainian and Russian sources stated that Russian troops are attempting to recapture positions in northern and northwestern Kherson Oblast.

* Damage to the Kerch Strait Bridge continues to impede the movement of Russian supplies and personnel to southern Ukraine.

* Russian forces continued ground attacks in Donetsk Oblast and claimed to make marginal advances south of Bakhmut.

* Russian incompetence continues to take its toll on mobilized personnel before they ever reach the front lines, likely exacerbating already-low morale.

* Russian officials are likely increasingly limiting freedom of movement in Russia to preserve additional mobilizable populations and prevent them from fleeing the country.

* Russian occupation officials called for the evacuation of civilians from occupied Kherson Oblast.

More at URL above.

Cheers

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
Feign weakness until your enemy fully commits and then send in the full might to over run and crush them

Not saying this is for sure but....it's def possible

they russians arent feigning weakness they are weak . no one unless they are an idiot feeds that many people into the meat grinder as some sort of feint . this isnt sun tzu this is military incompetence....

a reply to: LouisCypher

Incompetence or simply a much older way of fighting wars?

Their army reminds me more of bands of routiers headed by warlords, than modern soldiers led by an officer corps that is a professional caste of society.

Cheers

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

fighting wars the old fashioned way in a modern conflict is incompetence....

Don’t know if anybody has seen this it came out last spring. But it’s a perfect example of the lack of training by Russian conscripts . They are ambushed and fail to take up defensive positions put out suppressing fire or maneuver. The weapons handling is abysmal. They spent more time pointing loaded rifles at each other than the enemy.

BBC News - Ukraine war: Putin says no more massive strike - for now
www.bbc.co.uk...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Hopefully thats because he's running out of rockets too.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2



BBC News - Ukraine war: Putin says no more massive strike - for now
www.bbc.co.uk...

Code for.............We are running out of missiles.

Has Putin found out how to control Elon Musk?

yeah by putting trump into office and gaining influence over Republican voters, now Republicans are part of the global nationalist order putin has been constructing since he took office in 2000, trump effectively turned Republican against American interests and NATO and the international order America created to maintain peace, prosperity and respect to human rights, they have become tools of a foreign state and they dont comprehend that fact.

a reply to: Scrable

Saw this yesterday...not rockets, but cruise missiles...

This chip from Kh-101 ALCM, which tried to hit Klitschko bridge on October 10, was made in March 2019, i.e. the missile was even newer. As a rule, the oldest things are used up first. The production is 3 missiles a month. Means Russia has only a few dozen Kh-101s left.

Photo at the link

if accurate, then this is good news.

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

It's good news, if that's the case.

It's hard to believe Putin would leave Russia so defenseless, so out in the open for the world to see.

FSB officer asking political asylum

An FSB officer and a "Wagner" PMC mercenary have requested political asylum in #France

originally posted by: Kenzo

FSB officer asking political asylum

An FSB officer and a "Wagner" PMC mercenary have requested political asylum in #France

They had better wear gloves when holding door handles.

a reply to: alldaylong

And avoid tea?

a reply to: Kenzo

Actually Its because the Ukranian Minister told him to F off.

Incompetence or simply a much older way of fighting wars?

Their army reminds me more of bands of routiers headed by warlords, than modern soldiers led by an officer corps that is a professional caste of society.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

There is Axiom of war that a smaller force, better trained and organized will almost always defeat a much larger force

Ie Battle of Britian .........