Astrazeneca: Vaccine death inadequate payout

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: nonspecific

Just had a look on the wallmart website, the cheapest loaf of white bread is 97c for about 650g loaf.

Asda its 39p for 800g cheapo one.

Cheapest milk in wallmart is 96p per litre, asda its 68.3p

Maybe I just randomly picked two essentials that happened to be a fair bit more in the us pound for dollar?

Cost of living almost the same.
The link given above.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Apart from the cost of bread, or milk, or minced beef that is.

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originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Apart from the cost of bread, or milk, or minced beef that is.

www.investopedia.com...

You seem to ignore the links though.
The cost of living is almost the same as you can see.

And the payouts due to vaccine injuries and death 3.4 times more in the US.

These attempts are truly desperate. Bread, milk, beef, an extra boyfriend or girlfriend... You can include anything you want.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
And the payouts due to vaccine injuries and death 3.4 times more in the US.

Does it matter? The UK and the US have a different approach to this kind of thing, and probably the process to determine who gets a payment is dissimilar too.

In the UK it is a maximum of £120K, tax-free and given as a one-off benefit.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: nonspecific

Since the OP won't discuss then yes future health care costs are something that should be considered when comparing the 2 systems.

£120,000 in the UK
Around £405,000 in the US on average.

Cost of living the same

Nothing more to add.

Not for health care it isn't.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: nonspecific

Since the OP won't discuss then yes future health care costs are something that should be considered when comparing the 2 systems.

£120,000 in the UK
Around £405,000 in the US on average.

Cost of living the same

Nothing more to add.

Not for health care it isn't.

The cost of living here:

www.investopedia.com...

It's almost the same.

However the payouts are different

£120,000 in the UK
£405,000 in the US on average

There is a massive difference

I said this earlier on if you missed it.

That average payout is based on the system for vaccine related injuries that does not include the covid 19 vaccines.

The covid 19 vaccines are based on an entirely different system, there's a link to a bmj article way back about how its both unfair and still yet to give out a single payout so the whole debate is pretty pointless really.

If you want you can also factor in the fact that you don't have to go to court and have legal representation for the UK one, its tax free(not sure about the US one as yet) and as a UK citizen you wont have any medical bills to pay for and also have the full benefit of our benefit system if you are disabled as opposed to dead. this includes all the things like benefits but also a car under the mobility scheme and whatever else we offer that they don't.

Also bear in mind that the figure quoted is the average non covid payout not the actual figure and as an average half of the payouts will be less than the figure quoted.



a reply to: paraphi

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
And the payouts due to vaccine injuries and death 3.4 times more in the US.

Does it matter? The UK and the US have a different approach to this kind of thing, and probably the process to determine who gets a payment is dissimilar too.

In the UK it is a maximum of £120K, tax-free and given as a one-off benefit.

Yes! The UK awards a small amount for serious injury and death in my view. Hence the thread I made

originally posted by: nonspecific
I said this earlier on if you missed it.

That average payout is based on the system for vaccine related injuries that does not include the covid 19 vaccines.

The covid 19 vaccines are based on an entirely different system, there's a link to a bmj article way back about how its both unfair and still yet to give out a single payout so the whole debate is pretty pointless really.

If you want you can also factor in the fact that you don't have to go to court and have legal representation for the UK one, its tax free(not sure about the US one as yet) and as a UK citizen you wont have any medical bills to pay for and also have the full benefit of our benefit system if you are disabled as opposed to dead. this includes all the things like benefits but also a car under the mobility scheme and whatever else we offer that they don't.

Also bear in mind that the figure quoted is the average non covid payout not the actual figure and as an average half of the payouts will be less than the figure quoted.



a reply to: paraphi

The US awards according to severity of injury. For severe injuries and death it could be much more then the average. The UK only awards for adverse reactions and death.

"Despite the belief of most public health officials that claims of side effects were unfounded, large jury awards had been given to some plaintiffs, most DPT vaccine makers had ceased production, and officials feared the loss of herd immunity"

From Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: nonspecific

Since the OP won't discuss then yes future health care costs are something that should be considered when comparing the 2 systems.

£120,000 in the UK
Around £405,000 in the US on average.

Cost of living the same

Nothing more to add.

Not for health care it isn't.

The cost of living here:

www.investopedia.com...

It's almost the same.

However the payouts are different

£120,000 in the UK
£405,000 in the US on average

There is a massive difference

Again not for health care and we are talking about people with severe injuries.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Yes we know that.

originally posted by: nonspecific
It's not compensation.

You can still sue if you want to.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

ok then

Hmmm

Cost of LOCKDOWN.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: nonspecific
It's not compensation.

You can still sue if you want to.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

ok then

Hmmm

Those 2 links seem to contradict each other. A criticism of the journalism rather than you.

One says they have indemnity the other immunity which is a major difference.

Description here.

brodies.com...

My reading is that you can only sue if something was done wrong (for example contamination in the batch). Rather than just because you had an unlucky reaction.

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originally posted by: ScepticScot
Description here.

brodies.com...

My reading is that you can only sue if something was done wrong (for example contamination in the batch). Rather than just because you had an unlucky reaction.

Once again, How do you prove that the batch/dose you received was contaminated? It's already in your arm and you're in the freezer with your family about to torch or bury you.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Description here.

brodies.com...

My reading is that you can only sue if something was done wrong (for example contamination in the batch). Rather than just because you had an unlucky reaction.

Once again, How do you prove that the batch/dose you received was contaminated? It's already in your arm and you're in the freezer with your family about to torch or bury you.

If your death was unexpected and possibly vaccine related an investigation would show what batch you got.

If its bad enough to kill you then you are unlikely to be the only person affected. If you are the only one affected then it is unlikely to be the vaccine.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: nonspecific
It's not compensation.

You can still sue if you want to.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

ok then

Hmmm

I wonder why?

Legal protection to Pfizer?
That's news!

Being sarcastic of course