It's About To Go Down...

a reply to: JinMI

Yeh true but most of them will bow down to China really quickly!

Nah South Africa and South America will be the least touched nations during the obvious restructuring process.

Although if you are in the states just be sure to stock up on the basics oh and remember it's the weak ones you got to look out for. They will be the ones to turn on their own with the backing of the big daddy government the fastest

a reply to: TheGreazel
I don't doubt this time ...
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a reply to: WanderingMrM

I'm seeing most leaving E.U and siding with Russia. Additionally, the Nazis of E.U might use their stationed NATO forces in those nations to stomp the opposing governments that will side with Russia.

That does not make sense.

EU nations combined do not have enough troops in other european countries to "stomp" governments.

A handfull all over the place , many just for training or exercises with other friendly nations.

No where near enough to do anything.

a reply to: TheGreazel

Not to mention that NATO does not take orders from the EU. Two different organizations. Yeah, many countries are members of both, but that means little in terms of employment of military assets.

IIRC, the "EU troops" are a single Franco-German brigade.

Cheers

a reply to: zandra

What we are not being told is that during the February to now campaign Russia barely even used 10% of it's force or capabilities tech wise, the 150,000 - 250,000 that were sent in were just mercenaries not even the primary Russian force.

Active force is nearly 5,000,000 and all while if full mobilization takes place it can be well over 35,000,000 , additionally what we saw in Ukraine was outdated tech which means that Putin was not going to use the latest tech just yet.

Additionally we are now seeing something happening in Russia that has only happened once before which was during WW2, and we all know how that went for Europe.

Furthermore, factories all over Europe are shutting down and people are losing jobs, the gas reserves are lower than being reported and this winter will be completely brutal for Europeans especially now since the U.S decided to blow up Nord Stream 1.

Russia and China planned this well, they even prepared for the coming famine by buying up more than 60% of all grain and wheat reserves prior to 2022. They've even purchased most of the gold from around the world as well prior to the February operation, this means they planned and prepared for the financial collapse as well.

All while what we kept hearing was "Russia is bad, they invade Ukraine, they lose now", instead of actual facts being reported and telling the truth of "Look guys we here in Europe and over in America f'ed up, we decided to poke the bear and the dragon with a stick and now they both are coming for us".

Anyone that thinks Russia has lost especially when Putin and Xi met each time before every major event that has so far unfolded, literally tells us that "ignorance is bliss".

Before the special operation Xi and Putin met, before the purchase of Gold, Wheat and Grain reserves they met, before the mobilization announcement they met, now before the 20th Chinese Communist Party meeting Putin unfortunately can not meet so instead he sent some very important individuals to meet with Xi. Nothing is happening without a joint agreement of both sides, so people need to stop listening to the b.s of American and European Politicians and Media because what is happening is going to be a brutal awakening for everyone once the realization does hit.

China and Russia planned this out very well and that is why so many nations signed on with them, it is also why so many European nations are now questioning America and E.U and are beginning to look to side with Russia instead.

This is a very interesting escalation.

It's been increasingly apparent over the last few months how shaky the foundations of NATO are.

Two member states in Turkey and Greece are saber-rattling with each other over land disputes with both parties intimating, if not outright saying, that armed conflict between the two is possible.

A member state in Hungary is becoming more and more ostracized from the European community

Multiple member states entirely dependent on Russian gas ahead of winter

The American and British machine knows this, so it would make sense to remove the leverage Putin has over these countries by sabotaging the pipeline, ensuring a crisis, and then blaming Russia for it, unifying NATO through collective suffering. There's also the added benefit of an ecological disaster. The West will continue to push their reset agenda by publicly coupling dependence on fossil fuels with a national security threat (energy security being easily blackmailed by fuel producing states), and a simultaneous ecological disaster will arm them with another narrative to control public opinion on the evils of fossil fuels.

My prediction is the mainstream narrative over the next few days becomes a slow rumble from "speculation" to outright accusing Russia of stabotage, coupled with a massive media, corporate, and governmental push to insist that this is why we need to move to renewable energy.

The West is being run by a doomsday cult, and everything they are trying to do involves decreasing human economic activity on Earth through whatever means necessary, regardless of the impact on its own citizens.

Your source (if they exist) is talking nonsense - Europe already has gas stockpiles to last a couple of years and Russia cut off gas supply from Nord 1 a month ago so it makes no sense for anyone to attack it.

Russia failed to take the Ukraine in five days and are losing the war with Ukraine so there's no benefit or need for the US to try and plunge Europe into war with Russia.

No need for all the made up melodrama of US and Europe going into chaos and Putin propaganda.

originally posted by: bastion
Your source (if they exist) is talking nonsense - Europe already has gas stockpiles to last a couple of years and Russia cut off gas supply from Nord 1 a month ago so it makes no sense for anyone to attack it.

Russia failed to take the Ukraine in five days and are losing the war with Ukraine so there's no benefit or need for the US to try and plunge Europe into war with Russia.

No need for all the made up melodrama of US and Europe going into chaos and Putin propaganda.

Sorry, Bastion but if the supply was as big as they say it is, they wouldn't have resulted to this.

Furthermore, all the power shortages, restrictions, and factories shutting down, and people losing jobs due to the shutdowns would not be happening.

We all got lied to and this winter the truth will come out, but most likely the ones who will die will be utilized as a catalyst for further hatred of Russia and cause an uprising to go to a joint war against Russia.

Putin is dying and will be dead within a year to 18 months.. Before he dies he will see his plan for world domination with China.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Nah he won't die for a while, but he and China will for sure do what is needed and has been planned for a while now to overthrow the ones operating and running Europe and America from the shadows.

a reply to: WanderingMrM

None of that is happening though is it? No power shortages, job losses or factories shutting down - it's as made up as the claim the US bombed two pipelines that don't provide gas to Europe to cause a gas shortage in Europe.

No one hates ordinary Russians - just Putin for going mental and invading Ukraine. Ordinary Russians have been involved in the biggest anti-Putin demonstrations since he took power to protest against the war on Ukraine despite the threat of brutal prison conditions.

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Nah he won't die for a while, but he and China will for sure do what is needed and has been planned for a while now to overthrow the ones operating and running Europe and America from the shadows.

With the greatest respect this thread does have an air of doom porn about it.

If Russia and china could achieve world dominance or at least turn the establishment on its head through force of arms it would have happened a long time ago.

If America’s administration REALLY felt like it was threatened we’d be seeing some extremely shiny kit deployed. I struggle to believe that NASAMS & HIMARS are the tip of the technological spear…

How about we’re all just a little kinder on here and spare a thought for those that are dying right now for many awful reasons.

Peace

to get the war you need enemies and a perception you are on the right side of the conflict to even begin fighting...

I'm torn how it'll go down, the west feels more at war with itself than with Russia or china, the number 1 enemy is the one within not without.

maybe self-destruction is the only path the west has to start again and compete as it has lost its way has no idea how believe in themselves or wider society.

maybe the west only relearns that stuff through conflict. out of the fire kind of thing..

a reply to: bastion

Orwell wrote he'd expect to like and be able to drink with the pilots in planes dropping bombs on him as he wrote his essays and he those who returned the favour who probably felt the same under other circumstances, its accepting that circumstances have changed so much that makes accepting where this'll head hard..

while in normal times one thing might be true in war we are all trapped where we are, and we are all trapped on this path that leads to a hard global landing and risks of multiple crises very real..

none of us can change what is going to happen all we will do is our best to survive and hope we can do that with as many of our own principles and morals intact as we can..

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: WanderingMrM

Canada, Australia and New Zealand will see some stuff but won't be too brutal.

Their gov'ts have shown to be corrupt WEF puppet states. Squashing rights and dissent.

South Africa.

South America.

Hmm, BRICS nations? Doesn't bode well.

Think I'll just hold down my fort.

Hi Jin,

Dunno mate. Never had my rights squashed and the only major dissent I've seen is that which is projected by the Media. But they are city and suburban folk . Mostly you can have your say but just don't get violent/nasty.

My dig(fort if you want) is ours. Don't have problems here.

There seems to be a lot of fuss made recently which I haven't witnessed directly.

Kind regards to you and yours,

Bally

a reply to: nickyw


"maybe the west only relearns that stuff through conflict. out of the fire kind of thing"



Did 'the west' invade a European country and make repeated nuke threats upon learning it's military was completely inept?

Delusional .

all roads lead to Moscow.

Straight from Kremlin playbook.




Zip-a-dee-doo-dah Zip-a-dee-ay

How anyone can give anything a person who believes he has some sort of supernatural, third eye like, watchful connection and awareness of an Arthurian like future Russian Tsar who is going face the anti-Christ and herald in and oversee some sort of Russian dominated Golden Age is beyond me.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I have no doubt the OP believes what he is posting; its reasonable for the rest of us to exert at least some semblance of reasoned thought and critical thinking.

Jesus H Christ

originally posted by: WanderingMrM
a reply to: DeathSlayer

Nah he won't die for a while, but he and China will for sure do what is needed and has been planned for a while now to overthrow the ones operating and running Europe and America from the shadows.

Good luck with that then, were all waiting very patiently for this rabble of 3rd world clowns to come out and play