Putin's Address (September 21, 2022)

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: nugget1

Us Brits are just fine, thanks.

We can do elections without years of whining about them and years of litigation.

Yes, there are many mirrors in my house, thanks.

Putin is in your mirror, perchance?

It's so nice to hear your country is free from corruption and doing great! No wonder you feel the need to tell those living in other countries how wrong they are!

Too bad you're not a world leader so you can set us all straight on a global scale instead of a CT forum.

a reply to: nugget1

You just shared your personal opinion in your last breath.

Cant see why Carpy should not be able to share his.

As to the UK being free from corruption and doing great?

Have you met Brexit yet or witnessed all the austerity kicking about all over the shop that's not supposed to exist anymore?

a reply to: andy06shake

The Cuban Missile Crisis wasn’t that cut and dried though. The US positioned Jupiter missiles in Turkey and Italy in 1959. After Bay of Pigs Castro asked for missiles to be placed in Cuba as a deterrent to the US invading.

a reply to: Zaphod58

True.

Nothing ever is that cut and dry in this world.

Still don't excuse Russia invading Ukraine in this day of age.

Under the guise of hunt the Nazi, considering the company they keep themselves.

Or the problems associated with neo-Nazis amongst their own rank and file.

Or the fact that Putin keeps on threatening nuclear war.

I imagine "The Cuban Missile Crisis" was some pretty scary times to be honest, or so im lead to believe with the amount of bomb shelters people constructed in their back greens.

But the US can under the lies of WMD and allowing them all to shoot each other in their own nation under a rule written hundreds of years ago...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Zaphod58

True.

Nothing ever is that cut and dry in this world.

Still don't excuse Russia invading Ukraine in this day of age.

Under the guise of hunt the Nazi, considering the company they keep themselves.

Or the problems associated with neo-Nazis amongst their own rank and file.

Or the fact that Putin keeps on threatening nuclear war.

I imagine "The Cuban Missile Crisis" was some pretty scary times to be honest, or so im lead to believe with the amount of bomb shelters people constructed in their back greens.

a reply to: Stu112

You have lost me buddy.

Sorry if English is not your first language, i don't understand what your saying.

What rule written hundreds of years ago?

And who's shooting who?

Americans still spilling blood under the means of their amendments while also trying to control how conflicts will go.

I'm not having a go at you buddy, wish you good health but the double standards about all of this is sickening

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Stu112

You have lost me buddy.

Sorry if English is not your first language, i don't understand what your saying.

What rule written hundreds of years ago?

And who's shooting who?

Biden could end this all today...IF he really wanted to.
The US is basically financing their entire defense...and could demand negotiations tomorrow.
And get them.

However, this isn't what it's all about.
Biden doesn't give a damn about Ukraine...how much of it is destroyed...or how many people die.

He only wants Putin removed...with Russia and it's nuclear arsenal and energy up for grabs to anyone else who will manage to come to power in the resulting dangerous Russian power vacuum.

...And he's willing to risk nukes flying to do it.

In the demented mind of Biden and his puppet-masters...Putin is responsible for Trump beating Hillary and screwing up their plans (or, at least delaying them for 4 years).

Therefore, just like Trump, Putin must be destroyed by any means necessary...and at any cost.

a reply to: Stu112

Thats sound mate, cheers for the clarification.

I wish you the best of health also.

I'm not American by the way which is probably why i did not pick up on what you were alluding to.

I have to ask all the same how's America's constitution applicable to the war in Ukraine?

Far as i can establish its not America that invaded or overrun Ukraine or is attempting to depose the elected government.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ukraine does have neo nazis. Iraq did have terrorists. Both are being used as excuses to invade and occupy.

Neo nazis were as much as a threat to Russia as islamic "terrorists" are to America.

Its sad that OP and many others are willing to possibly lose their life over country propaganda.

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: andy06shake

Ukraine does have neo nazis. Iraq did have terrorists. Both are being used as excuses to invade and occupy.

Neo nazis were as much as a threat to Russia as islamic "terrorists" are to America.

Its sad that OP and many others are willing to possibly lose their life over country propaganda.

The 'terrorists' actually did attack the US, were planning to do so again, and were shooting at our planes in the area daily.

Not to mention the huge bounty hussein was paying palestinians to suicide bomb Isreali busses every day at the time.

Or the games they and russia were playing with their wmd stockpiles.

The 'nazis' did none of that.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Biden could end this all today...IF he really wanted to.
The US is basically financing their entire defense...and could demand negotiations tomorrow.
And get them.

However, this isn't what it's all about.
Biden doesn't give a damn about Ukraine...how much of it is destroyed...or how many people die.

He only wants Putin removed...with Russia and it's nuclear arsenal and energy up for grabs to anyone else who will manage to come to power in the resulting dangerous Russian power vacuum.

...And he's willing to risk nukes flying to do it.

In the demented mind of Biden and his puppet-masters...Putin is responsible for Trump beating Hillary and screwing up their plans (or, at least delaying them for 4 years).

Therefore, just like Trump, Putin must be destroyed by any means necessary...and at any cost.

putin could end this all today, the US isn't doing any invading or genociding.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Biden could end this all today...IF he really wanted to.
The US is basically financing their entire defense...and could demand negotiations tomorrow.
And get them.

However, this isn't what it's all about.
Biden doesn't give a damn about Ukraine...how much of it is destroyed...or how many people die.

He only wants Putin removed...with Russia and it's nuclear arsenal and energy up for grabs to anyone else who will manage to come to power in the resulting dangerous Russian power vacuum.

...And he's willing to risk nukes flying to do it.

In the demented mind of Biden and his puppet-masters...Putin is responsible for Trump beating Hillary and screwing up their plans (or, at least delaying them for 4 years).

Therefore, just like Trump, Putin must be destroyed by any means necessary...and at any cost.

You make joke, funny.
SIS

a reply to: IAMTAT

Sorry mate, this isn't about Biden and Trump and US politics.
Not at all.

You say Biden could stop it by withdrawing funding.....which would result in the deaths of hundreds, thousands of Ukrainian's and the subjugation of a nation.
All as a prelude to what?

Putin could stop it by simply calling a ceasefire and putting a stop to the death and destruction.

A MASSIVE difference.

I understand you don't like Biden - who in their right mind does - but this isn't on him.

ETA

...And he's willing to risk nukes flying to do it.

The only one 'willing to risk nukes' is the paranoid, delusional psychopath threatening to use them.

Do you suggest everyone roll over and bow down to Putin because he's threatened to nuke everyone?
What sort of world would we be living in then?

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a reply to: CptGreenTea

Neo nazis were as much as a threat to Russia as islamic "terrorists" are to America.

Could you please elaborate on that?

My God somebody wants ALL the Russian energy assets !!!!!

I wonder who is behind the efforts ? 😎

There's some stirring up about BRICS and some special banks !!!!😎

BRICS BANKS !!!!!!

a reply to: turretless

When the Scots begin to kill the British and the British will calmly look at it for many years without doing anything in response, then I admit that perhaps we were wrong in Ukraine.

As has been pointed out to you, the biggest bone of contention is Westminster rule.
And annoying, self-advancing politicians.....on both sides of the border.

We're family and we bicker some times, that's the way of the world.

But one thing I can categorically, 100% assure you of, neither of us, no matter what, will sit back and do nothing whilst watching harm done to the other by anyone else.
And the same goes for the other parts of the UK.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Biden could end this all today...IF he really wanted to.
The US is basically financing their entire defense...and could demand negotiations tomorrow.
And get them.

However, this isn't what it's all about.
Biden doesn't give a damn about Ukraine...how much of it is destroyed...or how many people die.

He only wants Putin removed...with Russia and it's nuclear arsenal and energy up for grabs to anyone else who will manage to come to power in the resulting dangerous Russian power vacuum.

...And he's willing to risk nukes flying to do it.

In the demented mind of Biden and his puppet-masters...Putin is responsible for Trump beating Hillary and screwing up their plans (or, at least delaying them for 4 years).

Therefore, just like Trump, Putin must be destroyed by any means necessary...and at any cost.

You make joke, funny.
SIS

Now I'm off in search of adventure.

I wish everyone good health and good luck.