Putin announces partial military mobilisation in address to Russia

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Kenzo

Mobilizing a few million troops is fairly easy but supplying them with guns, ammo and food is much harder especially with Russia's history with supplies.

Maybe the 300k is for driving Chinese Trucks a Scooby Doo vans into a war zone ? LOL

a reply to: modified device

Tom Enders: The fact that we have to treat Britain and Argentina even-handedly for the purpose of negotiation...

Margaret Thatcher: How *dare* you treat us even-handedly? Argentina is the aggressor, the invader. A fourth-rate, cruel, unstable, corrupt, brutal regime with no morals or scruples whatever! They torture and murder their political opponents by the most ghastly Nazi methods. And this is the regime you wish to give even a foothold over British citizens?

Just replace Argentina with Russia.

As far as let them duke it out do you really think Putin will stop with Ukraine. If you watch their media Ukraine is the first step.

Putin needs his own July 20th plot, and sooner rather than later.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: modified device

What documentary?

3 hours?

Post a link and a summary?

The documentary is a 1960s produced 28 hour series called The Great war documentary world war I prior to when it started when it started all the way to the bitter end, stop being internet lazy and just go to YouTube search it by name BBC Great war you'll find all 24 hours in a nice compact playlist it's very fascinating and very informed more so than Kim Burns Vietnam

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

If that's the case then the question arises why is he escalating?

From here he can only back down (and most likely be retired) or take it all the way.

What else is there?

Good question.

putin is no longer behaving like he is sane.

I can think of no other answer to your question.

He is trying to pull a victory from his defeat. Threaten the use of Nukes in hops Ukraine backs down from its offensive to retake their own country. It's one thing where Russia is kicked out in the Kharkiv region however if Ukraine moves into the Luhansk and Donetsk then it present major issue for Putin. If Ukraine retakes Kherson and then the rest of the "land corridor", as well as Crime.. If the bridge to Crimea is targeted, and I expect it will be, then Putin will have lost everything.

The revolts occurring in the Russian Military re: fighting in Ukraine.. The fact that 4 former SSR's are now at war with each other, with all the countries in question expecting Russia to involve itself and choose a side..

The reason Putin is making the threats he is is because he is trying to grasp a victory from defeat and it wont work. Putin as President of Russia is coming to an end.

Maybe the 300K is to declare Marshall Law and ensure Putin's survival?

Lets face it they're not winning the War even with a full mobilization

a reply to: Xcathdra

What a walloper.

Partial human being is what he is.

Canny accept defeat in any sort of gracious manner.

Ah well, winter is coming, lets see how Russian troops in the field like them apples.

Meep meep.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Maybe the 300K is to declare Marshall Law and ensure Putin's survival?

Lets face it they're not winning the War even with a full mobilization

Possibly however trying to use that method did not work for the Soviet Union and it won't work for Putin's Russia.

a reply to: modified device

You are being lazy.

You can't even post a link but want me to watch a 24 hours long video with no summary?

And who is Kim Burns?

I do have a life, you know?

Rt Hon John Nott MP (Secretary of State for Defence): When one stops a dictator, there are always risks. But there are far greater ones in *not* stopping one.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Kenzo

Mobilizing a few million troops is fairly easy but supplying them with guns, ammo and food is much harder especially with Russia's history with supplies.

Experiencing it first hand is always an eye opener.

.

Look like this



The lucky ones

a reply to: modified device
Even Kissinger said about a month ago everyone, including NATO should step back and let the two of them slug it out.
That surprised me coming from him.
Rainbows
Jane

originally posted by: nickyw

First comes prosperity like never before.
Then follows an apostasy like never before.
Then an unprecedented corruption of morals.
Then a large number of strangers come into the country.
There is high inflation
Money loses more and more value.
The revolution [in Germany] soon follows.
Then the Russians invaded the West overnight.

Thanks nickyw! First thoughts on the above was Germany maybe 1890 to 1930's, revolution being the Nazi revolution. Russian's invading overnight well that's too quick for the 1940's yet they did take out much of Europe in a westwards advance. The prosperity part is a little strange. Was there prosperity like never before. No idea. Sounds more like late 20th century Germany. Hehe I need some sleep. Sweet dreams

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Maybe the 300k is for driving Chinese Trucks a Scooby Doo vans into a war zone ? LOL

So Russia did not learn a thing from WW2. The USSR had the exact same issues then as they do now.

US Embassy in Russia

Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi invasion. Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”

400,000 jeeps & trucks
14,000 airplanes
8,000 tractors
13,000 tanks
1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
2.7 million tons of petrol products
4.5 million tons of food

a reply to: angelchemuel

Without the support of the NATO nations Ukraine might not have been able to withstand the Russian assault and there is no guarantee Putin would stop at the border Jane.

Putin should never have invaded Ukraine and left them to sort out their own internal matters instead of telling porky pies about it only being a military exercise on the border or trying to punt the hunt the Nazi nonsense by way of an excuse for his antics.

The Man tells lies and lives in his own little world far as i can establish and now has the blood of tens of thousands of people on his hands.

Not good at all, and a hell of a situation to contend with in this day of age.

Russia should go back home before they catch a cold by my guesstimation.

a reply to: Xcathdra


Did russia ever repay us for the Lend-Lease assistance that saved their country?

What is 180b @ 18% interest for 75 years?

(Obama gave iran 18% on money that wasn't even theirs)

Its a perfect 4D chess move...

Round up all anti war protestors, 'train' them and 'equip' them... and send them to the front to join the near breaking moral, nearly exhausted of equipment, 'experienced' troops already there... what could go wrong!

He's a genius...

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

The lucky ones

Theres a thread in the Ukranian Reddit, dealing with a ruZZia field hospital that was abandoned... its a literal garbage dump of an abattoir and combat medics in the comments mention that it seems ruZZian medics basically just chop limbs off to fix problems (ala American civil war style), they dont have too... but they cant be arsed trying to save the limb and just chop em off if badly damaged. Certainly wouldnt be surprised if it was true.

Reddit

a reply to: BigfootNZ

don't forget the semi pardoned prisoners, or the squabbling Mercs and Spetznaz units.

a reply to: BernnieJGato


There are actual peaceful protests in russia!

Peaceful Protests In Russia!

Something I've never seen before.

Still small scale, and police are arresting protesters at a steady pace (without any violence), but police are actually allowing the protests to continue in at least 3 major cities.

God Speed Russian Patriots, God Speed.

The only thing you have to fear, is fear itself.

Speak your mind! 📣

"No War In Ukraine" 📢

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
but police are actually allowing the protests to continue in at least 3 major cities.

Sorry couldnt resist, first thing that immediately poped into my head...

a reply to: BigfootNZ


Could very well be, but it's still the first time anyone has ever seen peaceful protests being allowed to continue in russia.

Ever.

That's worth celebrating, or at least noting, regardless of what side you're on.

We're watching history unfold in near real time again, this is EXACTLY what the early 'Tiananmen' protests looked like.

Exactly.

There’s observations down the Ying Yang about protesters in EVERY country. In EVERY situation.

Let’s focus on the dance at hand coming up shall we?