LGBTQP+ straight from the horse's mouth

a reply to: ColeYounger


Your post : eg
"  America, to a cheering audience. It's insane. If an 11 year old girl danced provocatively for a crowd of adult men, it would be an outrage. People would be getting arrested! But when it's an 11 year old boy in drag, it's not only OK, it's great! He's a hero! "

You are well behind the times. Did you never see that flossing crazy they went through a couple of years back ?
It was hilarious for about 5 minutes, slightly concerning for about 2 minutes and then forgotten in less than one minute. But the first five minutes , shocking . It was actually a great chance for the kids round us at the time to learn who would literally laugh out loud at that and who was rather embarked by it either .
People are very complex ,more than what you might think, they develop from an early age . They're not stupid and don't need mollycoddling . What they appreciate is truth in all essence. That's something they need.

I'd say really , that clamping attitudes are unamerican , they're not democratic but controlling shared national values and anti freedom . If that's the home of the brave where you are too Cole you might contemplate going out and giving it a chance , you might like it too.

originally posted by: IsabelleJones
a reply to: ColeYounger


Your post : eg
"  America, to a cheering audience. It's insane. If an 11 year old girl danced provocatively for a crowd of adult men,

You've seen Toddlers and Tiaras right?

a reply to: Athetos

Passing off one’s identity as something that requires no choice is such a cop out of personal responsibilities.

What responsibilities do I cop out? To be heterosexual is not my responsibility. True love is unconditional. One might make a choice to ignore it but love isn't a choice per se. We can ignore it, kill it but the initial spark isn't a choice. Of course you will wind a gazillion different angles to tackle this semantical.

I wish for you that one day you encounter true love, the unconditional kind. And then the only thing that keeps you from accepting it, is the choice you make against it. See how this can work too?

Are you saying I should ignore the unconditional love I can feel for sake of pleasing you and others? To pass me off as a cop out of personal responsibility is only further showing that you don't know me really well, have not read what I wrote about such topics in the past.

originally posted by: TDDAgain


True love is unconditional. One might make a choice to ignore it but love isn't a choice per se. . .

Lust isn't a choice per se.

Love is a responsibility.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IsabelleJones

Ah, the old "if you don't like 'em it must be cause they turn you on ... bit gay are you?" thing.

Nothing like a man to show us ladies how to be properly feminine!

I think we put them all to bed in that one in fact I know it's gone home , so thanks , and yes there is special wisdom that only ladies know

a reply to: Annee
Love is more than this or that word, never has been.

a reply to: Annee

No. It use proven that "puberty blockers" have negative long-term effects of the physiology and heath of children who use them. This is widely known and acknowledged.

I'm partially responsible for letting the thread drift. My OP was about the woman's admission that the LGB... movement has really been coopted by pedophiles and that much of the community is supporting that, either actively or passively.

I really couldn't care less about your definition of love and what you do with your self in your own home. And the attacks on me just underscore the lack of any solid moral or philosophical foundations for those making them. Is you had anything honest to say regarding the topic at hand, good say it. Seeking to obfuscate the discussion lends support to that which it attempts to counter.

It seems that when people can't defend a position, they will scream loudly enough to obfuscate the opposition. That's clearly what's happened here. People say that they don't support the normalization of pedophilia, but they will talk about anything but and do everything they can to draw the discussion away from that.

The resulting silence hidden within the cacophony speaks louder than any denials. This thread makes clear to me that there is more support for pedophilia in the community than most will admit to.
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a reply to: Annee

acpeds.org...

a reply to: incoserv
Pathetic. Just pathetic.

And then smear me with accusations I obfuscate anything to hide my support of pedophilia that is only in your head. I made my position clearly. I am a rape victim by a pedophile, dummy.

I know you addressed me because:

I really couldn't care less about your definition of love and what you do with your self in your own home. And the attacks on me just understood the lack of any solid moral or philosophical foundations for those making them.

What you see as attacks is just calling out your acting, because it is evident you are prejudiced to the bone.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: incoserv
Pathetic. Just pathetic.

And then smear me with accusations I obfuscate anything to hide my support of pedophilia that is only in your head. I made my position clearly. I am a rape victim by a pedophile, dummy.

I know you addressed me because:

I really couldn't care less about your definition of love and what you do with your self in your own home. And the attacks on me just understood the lack of any solid moral or philosophical foundations for those making them.

What you see as attacks is just calling out your acting, because it is evident you are prejudiced to the bone.

Exactly ...

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originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Annee

acpeds.org...

Oh, them again.

They are not the legitimate American Academy of Pediatricians.

The American College of Pediatricians is a socially conservative advocacy group of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals in the United States. The group's primary focus is advocating against abortion and the adoption of children by gay or lesbian people. It also advocates conversion therapy.

ACPeds has been listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for pushing "anti-LGBTQ junk science".

A number of mainstream researchers, including the director of the US National Institutes of Health, have accused ACPeds of misusing or mischaracterizing their work to advance ACPeds' political agenda.

The organization's view on parenting differs from the position of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which holds that sexuality has no connection with the ability to be a good parent and to raise healthy and well-adjusted children.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: incoserv
a reply to: Annee

No. It use proven that "puberty blockers" have negative long-term effects of the physiology and heath of children who use them. This is widely known and acknowledged.

Your source is what?

Here's the legitimate American Academy of Pediatrics.

“As I often tell families, gender-affirming care is creating space for children to be able to tell us their gender story, rather than filling in the end of the story for them. In that journey, gender-affirming care may draw on evidence-based medical tools — such as puberty blockers or hormone therapy — at developmentally appropriate ages. These tools have been shown to help reduce gender dysphoria and improve mental health for many transgender, nonbinary and gender-diverse youth.

“In my care of more than 200 transgender youth, I’ve seen the incredible relief and affirmation that these tools can provide,” said Dr. Allen, associate professor of pediatrics at University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health and co-director of a transgender clinic at American Family Children’s Hospital.

publications.aap.org...

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: incoserv
You're the most pretentious asshole I ever met on ATS and that is some achievement.

My Op was never about you or your sexual preferences. You twisted it and made it about that. I foolishly let myself be lured into that discussion. My bad, there.

Why do people like this always turn everything around and make it about POOR LI'L OL' ME ME ME? There's is a sad attitude of victimhood that is centered on a very immature perception of the world that places one at it's center. Thus, anything that doesn't jive with that person's world view and perception of self must be perceived as some kind of offense.

This thread is not about you. Sorry to disappoint...

As the narrator said at the beginning of the original "Peter Pan" animated movie, "This has happened before..." Back in my Libertarian days, I began to notice other groups were gloming onto Libertarian ideas to undergird their own platforms. First it was the GOP, as they liked the economic freedom angle. Then it was dope smokers. Then it was various perverts...and I left the movement. I have been a disgruntled ex-Libertarian ever since.

What the LGBT...LSMFT...XYZ crowd fails to realize is that they have now come out in the open. It is a dangerous place.

a reply to: incoserv

She is clearly homophobic because there is nothing that says family event like a person dressed in lingerie and being overly sexual on stage for little kids to throw money at them like a stripper in a night club.

a reply to: incoserv

Stopped replying to you when you asked for it. What you do is gatekeeping. Sorry this is not the echo chamber you thought it would be.

And I never said "oh poor little me". If you actually learn some reading comprehension, I think you can't though, you would see that. And if you think I pull the insult card lightly, you're wrong.

Next time you have to say or imply something about me in the worst way possible, then #ing address me directly. It's more than clear your whining post was about me as I was the one that had the argument about the definition of love.

And we only had that because you didn't stop equating sex with love. So it's sly, spineless and a few other things what you did with your whining "oh this is not how I want the thread to be".

Pathetic.

originally posted by: incoserv
People say that they don't support the normalization of pedophilia.

They don't. Unless they're a pedophile.

Here's an anecdote for ya. That I know of, I've only met one pedophile in my life. One of my old customer's sons. He added me on Facebook but eventually unfriended me because I shared a gofundme for a gay couple that I'm friends with. Their house burnt down, and they lost everything. Dude is religious as all get out, extremely judgemental,and literally unfriended me over that.

After that, we got into several arguments on local groups over the gays, racial issues, and covid. He always sounded like OP (most of the people on this site TBH).

He was recently sentenced to 8 consecutive 10 year sentences for over 30 child molestation and pornography charges.

Missouri circuit Court 17, case number 21JO-CR00089-01

I know, am friends with, and work with several LGBTQP+ folks, and none of them have ever harmed a child in any way, that I know of.

I can almost smell the fear of public discourse on pedophiles... Why oh why, would that be...

Who has heen running the biz so far? Where do all these desperate women abandon their unaborted kids at?