Interesting Western news report about Mariupol in 2014

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

And here he is right on time!!

UnderDog!

You can tell the difference between a Ukrainian and a Russian from blurry night vision footage, but the difference between Mighty Mouse and Underdog is just too complicated.

Damn

Rounds out!!

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

Do you believe there are nazis in Ukraine?

Did the US have a hand in destabilizing Ukraine?

Sure there are Nazi's in Ukraine, but not as many as there are in the Americas, where they ran and hid, or were welcomed (and hidden) by the government immediately following the war. They even had code names, such as "Paperclip", for the 'resettlement'.

a reply to: chr0naut

Do those American nazis have military and political power?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: JinMI

Did Russia start an insurrection in Ukraine while they invaded Ukraine starting in 2014?

Were the Ukrainian people excited about joining the EU back in 2014? Why did the President of Ukraine yank that away from the people and decide to sell out his country to Russia? Why did the President of Ukraine at the time ignore the Ukrainian peoples wishes?

Nope the far right in Ukraine, the ones in Western Ukraine did the insurrection and the coup of the democratically elected government.

You are leaving out the word "Western Ukrainian" in your entire post. Only the Western ukraines wanted to join the EU in 2014.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Way to twist the info to suit your narrative.

The part being left out -

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

And why did they want to separate? Because of aggression like this. These sure look like civilians to me, I didn't see any of these Mariupol people with weapons. I heard them say "our government is killing us, it's very scary" and I heard the old lady say "we are tired of living under a fascist government". These are Mariupol residents off the street interviewed by British MSM, so you guys can't even say "it's all actors working for Russia"

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

Fact check - FALSE

a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

You can think what you want.

The Ukrainian government , along with a long list of their brand new anti Russian language and anti Russian culture laws, the overthrowing of the government that all these people in the east voted for and the aggression and murder of Eastern Ukrainian civilians is why this part of the country decided to separate.

The Eastern Ukrainians were no longer gonna live in a country where their votes didnt matter, where their language and culture was being taken away from them, where it was now against the law to teach their children in school with the language they had been using on that land for generations, where they were being treated as 2nd class citizens on the land that their ancestors died to protect and in a country that was using force against their own people. This is why millions of Eastern Ukrainians were separating.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

You can think what you want.

The Ukrainian government , along with a long list of their brand new anti Russian language and anti Russian culture laws, the overthrowing of the government that all these people in the east voted for and the aggression and murder of Eastern Ukrainian civilians is why this part of the country decided to separate.

The Eastern Ukrainians were no longer gonna live in a country where their votes didnt matter, where their language and culture was being taken away from them, where it was now against the law to teach their children in school with the language they had been using on that land for generations, where they were being treated as 2nd class citizens on the land that their ancestors died to protect and in a country that was using force against their own people. This is why millions of Eastern Ukrainians were separating.

You think Ukraine banned the russian language?

Hilarious!

That was yet another long debunked russian lie.

Ukraine did no such thing.

I am not the author...but this is the best thing I've ever read here..so I'll copy and paste someone else's words...and a refresh for you...
Im fully convinced now that you have no idea what the term propaganda means.

Thread after thread, you pop off moronic questions aimed at one goal. Support for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, fact digging, false as some may turn out to be arent support for Russia. I know, I know, your boy Biden needs a boogeyman to blame all his failures on and youre too obliged to aid in this endevour.

The only propaganda being spread....is by you.

By you
By you
BY YOU!
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: JinMI

Did Russia start an insurrection in Ukraine while they invaded Ukraine starting in 2014?

Were the Ukrainian people excited about joining the EU back in 2014? Why did the President of Ukraine yank that away from the people and decide to sell out his country to Russia? Why did the President of Ukraine at the time ignore the Ukrainian peoples wishes?

Nope the far right in Ukraine, the ones in Western Ukraine did the insurrection and the coup of the democratically elected government.

You are leaving out the word "Western Ukrainian" in your entire post. Only the Western ukraines wanted to join the EU in 2014.

Did the western Ukrainians outnumber the eastern Ukrainians?

Do you understand how elections work?

What possible business is it of russia's either way?

Ukraine is NOT part of russia.

a reply to: PatriotGames4u

am not the author...but this is the best thing I've ever read here..so I'll copy and paste someone else's words...and a refresh for you...
Im fully convinced now that you have no idea what the term propaganda means.

Thread after thread, you pop off moronic questions aimed at one goal. Support for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, fact digging, false as some may turn out to be arent support for Russia. I know, I know, your boy Biden needs a boogeyman to blame all his failures on and youre too obliged to aid in this endevour.

The only propaganda being spread....is by you.

By you
By you
BY YOU!

originally posted by: Faeded
I am not the author...but this is the best thing I've ever read here..so I'll copy and paste someone else's words...and a refresh for you...
Im fully convinced now that you have no idea what the term propaganda means.

Thread after thread, you pop off moronic questions aimed at one goal. Support for Ukraine.

Meanwhile, fact digging, false as some may turn out to be arent support for Russia. I know, I know, your boy Biden needs a boogeyman to blame all his failures on and youre too obliged to aid in this endevour.

The only propaganda being spread....is by you.

By you
By you
BY YOU!
a reply to: PatriotGames4u

So you believe in imaginary weapons labs, nazis with Star Trek Transporters, and invisible Isreali nukes in Kherson?




Please point out a single shred of fake propaganda spread by me.

But sure do hope posting that helped your feelz.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Do those American nazis have military and political power?

Do the Ukrainians?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

You can think what you want.

The Ukrainian government , along with a long list of their brand new anti Russian language and anti Russian culture laws, the overthrowing of the government that all these people in the east voted for and the aggression and murder of Eastern Ukrainian civilians is why this part of the country decided to separate.

The Eastern Ukrainians were no longer gonna live in a country where their votes didnt matter, where their language and culture was being taken away from them, where it was now against the law to teach their children in school with the language they had been using on that land for generations, where they were being treated as 2nd class citizens on the land that their ancestors died to protect and in a country that was using force against their own people. This is why millions of Eastern Ukrainians were separating.

You think Ukraine banned the russian language?

Hilarious!

That was yet another long debunked russian lie.

Ukraine did no such thing.

]

Good thing no one claimed that it was banned then huh?

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut

Do those American nazis have military and political power?

Do the Ukrainians?

Absolutely

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

I dont know where this quote is from (probably Wikipedia) but I like this "Separatist militants with the Donetsk People's Republic" which is a fancy saying for the "Ukrainian Civilians of the Donbass near the city of Donetsk" who weren't putting up with a fascist Ukrainian government any longer

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

I dont know where this quote is from (probably Wikipedia) but I like this "Separatist militants with the Donetsk People's Republic" which is a fancy saying for the "Ukrainian Civilians of the Donbass near the city of Donetsk" who weren't putting up with a fascist Ukrainian government any longer

Perhaps you think there is a country called dombas?

Hilarious!

russia thinks the same thing, it doesn't actually exist though, that territory is part if Ukraine, as is Crimea.

originally posted by: PatriotGames4u

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: MisguidedAngel

They didnt. The Russian insurgents backed bv Russia caused it. Just like Crime when they held sham elections. Just like the sham elections they just held in Kherson.. Russia would not let Ukrainians vote.


also

During the rising unrest in Ukraine in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution, the city of Mariupol, in Donetsk Oblast, saw skirmishes break out between Ukrainian government forces, local police, and separatist militants affiliated with the Donetsk People's Republic. Government forces withdrew from Mariupol on 9 May 2014 after heavy fighting left the city's police headquarters gutted by fire. These forces maintained checkpoints outside the city. Intervention by Metinvest steelworkers on 15 May 2014 led to the removal of barricades from the city centre, and the resumption of patrols by local police. Separatists continued to operate a headquarters in another part of the city until their positions were overrun in a government offensive on 13 June 2014.

You can think what you want.

The Ukrainian government , along with a long list of their brand new anti Russian language and anti Russian culture laws, the overthrowing of the government that all these people in the east voted for and the aggression and murder of Eastern Ukrainian civilians is why this part of the country decided to separate.

The Eastern Ukrainians were no longer gonna live in a country where their votes didnt matter, where their language and culture was being taken away from them, where it was now against the law to teach their children in school with the language they had been using on that land for generations, where they were being treated as 2nd class citizens on the land that their ancestors died to protect and in a country that was using force against their own people. This is why millions of Eastern Ukrainians were separating.

You think Ukraine banned the russian language?

Hilarious!

That was yet another long debunked russian lie.

Ukraine did no such thing.

Where did I say this? You gotta real stop putting words in people mouths. Why are you making stuff up?


There were many new Anti Russian language laws like...

It was banned from being used in schools to teach children past the 3rd grade.