Chronicles of Ukrainian Nazism

a reply to: RussianTroll

Im seriously interested in peace on Earth and good will towards mankind.

But that don't make me Santa Claus RussianTroll.

Again try and see the bigger picture buddy, because its staring you in the face.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

My dear friend, the invasion of Ukraine did not begin on February 24, 2022, but in 2014.

I agree, and Putin has been using alt right extremists as their mercs in his proxy war. So basically you have Russian alt right extremists fighting Ukrainian alt right extremists... geez

a reply to: andy06shake

I did a lot of analytical research on geopolitics. Some of them were in the top with tens of thousands of shares and millions of open spaces. I hope that I see the general picture of what is happening in the world, the driving forces and goals of all the world's power and civilization centers of our planet.
Of course, I am not a special services and their sources of information are not available to me. I only use data from open sources, but all over the world. Therefore, my forecasts based on a comprehensive analysis of sources from various countries of the world, I believe, are relatively objective.

a reply to: RussianTroll

The vast majority of Russian Nazis who fled from Russian justice moved to Ukraine and became active fighters in the Azov Regiment and other Nazi battalions

No they did not.
They actively supported people like Pavel Gubarev and Igor Girkin.
They engaged in military action against official Ukrainian installations and organisations, terrorised Ukrainian people in the Donbas and took part many acts of brutality against non-Orthodox Christians and Jews.
These were Russian neo-Nazi's.

They are now fighting alongside regular Russian forces.

Its undeniable that some non-Ukrainians were or are fighting in Azov Battalion, including a handful of Russians.

I no longer expect you to try and apply any level of reasoned or unbiased thinking to anything relating to this invasion.
But no amount of sugar-coating can alter any of that, it simply is what it is.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Not to be that judgmental female dog RussianTroll.

But i pretty much appreciated most of the stuff you posted and threads you created before Putin went mental, it all went breasts up, and he invaded Ukraine.

I just don't understand the tunnel vision you seemingly choose to display nowadays.

I don't see the objectivity, or if i do there is an agenda at play also.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Come on you are talking to a guy that has been in the military since 1980

And that makes you a military expert ?
Exactly what were you trying to prove ?

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: andy06shake

My dear friend, the invasion of Ukraine did not begin on February 24, 2022, but in 2014.

So it isn´t a Special Operation anymore instead it is INVASION ! Good point .. now try to turn it so that Ukrainians invaded Ukraine !

a reply to: andy06shake

You have your own opinion and I accept it. I have my own opinion. But conciliator, I am constantly bullied on our forum, these people are not interested in truth, arguments and logic. They need to shut me up by any means necessary. That is, to limit the members of the ATS from information, by imposing by any means only their agenda. I believe that this is an extreme disrespect for the intelligence of the members of our forum.
This is what separates me from my opponents.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I don't think there is much chance of them shutting you up much if that helps. LoL

You are after all rather vocal.

Not everyone with a difference of opinion is an opponent through.

And that's a hell of a way to see the world because you are apt to find an adversary at every turn.

Desperation is a stinky cologne. This stinks of Russian desperation.

a reply to: andy06shake

I hope the time comes when we can meet in a pub or bar, have ale or whiskey or vodka and laugh at our differences. But now, I will not go to Europe, because I am Russian, although you can safely come to Russia))))

a reply to: andy06shake

Yes but right now that digital device isn’t a requirement for leisure, shopping, work and travel. Let’s see if that’s still the case in 10 years. For you maybe, some of us won’t accept it, no matter the consequences.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Never been to Russia me, big country, loads of interesting history and places to see i have to admit.

Vodka is my chosen tipple, canny go wrong with a wee litre of Grey Goose or Smirnov Russian Black Label.

You should never be afraid to go anywhere RussianTroll, as long as you don't act like a bam people tend to treat others how they find them.

As to safely well that's illusory at best, just like freedom and security.

a reply to: RussianTroll

I assure you, I've never had any desire or intention to 'bully' you.

I've always enjoyed our interactions and gained a huge amount of respect for you.
We've never agreed with each other all the time but we discussed and debated with respect....and humour.

But since this Ukraine invasion you seem to be parroting the official Party line verbatim.
I get the impression that because you are a proud and hugely patriotic Russian - nothing wrong with that - you feel you must support Putin and Mother Russia.

If only he would call an immediate ceasefire and put an end to all the senseless killing.

Then perhaps we could get back to shooting the # etc.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: andy06shake

My dear friend, the invasion of Ukraine did not begin on February 24, 2022, but in 2014.

Thank you. You finally said it.

Instead of being a talking head for Russia.

You finally stated your own feelings and called it what it is.

An invasion.

Instead of being Putlers parrot and repeating special operation over and over like usual.

a reply to: Grenade

The world spins Grenade and change is inevitable from one generation to the next.

I'm not exactly the compliant sorts you assume me to be Grenade.

In another life, if you gave me an inch(not you personally) I'm apt to have taken a lot more than a mile.

And people don't really change per-say, they do however learn from their mistakes, or at least modify there manner so as not to repeat the past.

You do you brother, after all its the only way to travel.

End of the day stand tall, but their will always be consequences some of them harder to handle than others.

a reply to: RussianTroll

As a Russian you’d be treated with respect and dignity by the vast majority of people in the UK. Despite the best efforts of the MSM the people don’t discriminate based purely on nationality. Our governments and our people don’t follow the same ideology, that chasm of difference in opinion widens everyday. Sure, the morons who actually think the news is anything other than propaganda might jump on the bandwagon but these are the same weak minded shills that cower at the first sign of confrontation.

The sabre-rattling elites are the first ones to tuck tail and run when the bullets start flying.

“Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death's construction

In the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord, yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor.”

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: andy06shake

You have your own opinion and I accept it. I have my own opinion. But conciliator, I am constantly bullied on our forum, these people are not interested in truth, arguments and logic. They need to shut me up by any means necessary. That is, to limit the members of the ATS from information, by imposing by any means only their agenda. I believe that this is an extreme disrespect for the intelligence of the members of our forum.
This is what separates me from my opponents.

I really appreciate your character and integrity RT. I see much of the same information you bring forth from other sources that I follow. The truth is out there for those who look.
As for the usual list of actors who stifle intelligent debate, I've noticed their same tactics and motivations in numerous threads regarding the covid culture. They appear to be always defending the narratives of the cabal. I'm actually surprised they haven't come out to defend the pedophiles in this threads as well. I suppose they have some restraint or special orders at this time.

In regards to the OP, here is a picture of the missle for those who can't be bothered to watch a video yet downs hours debating.



And by the way, it won't be long now for those nato officers or mercenaries trapped with their Ukrainian Nazis brothers in the Azovstol plant in Mariupol. That's going to be a little hard to explain but I'm sure they are working on the narrative at this very moment.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: andy06shake

I know both Russian and world history well. I can competently tell you that there is nothing new in the world. The same thing always happens, but only denounced in new words and terms.

Russians have a proverb: "Everything new is a well-forgotten old." Because human nature does not change.

But you continually insist that the Russians have changed their behavior from previous wars. As you said, human nature does not change. Remember WWII Soviet Army in Berlin.

Read this:

Prussian Nights (1974) a war poem by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. The narrator, a Red Army officer, approves of the troops' crimes as revenge for Nazi atrocities in Russia, and hopes to take part in the plundering himself. The poem describes the gang-rape of a Polish woman whom the Red Army soldiers had mistaken for a German.[194] According to a review for The New York Times, Solzhenitsyn wrote the poem in trochaic tetrameter, "in imitation of, and argument with the most famous Russian war poem, Aleksandr Tvardovsky's Vasili Tyorkin."[195]

Nothing changes. And the current Russian army, regardless what group they belong to, doesn't change either.

a reply to: andy06shake

I don’t mind change, unless that change is a direct threat to the future of my children. The people with the power to change the world are doing just that so I refuse to bend to their will. The folk who gobble this crap up must think somehow their compliance will save them, good luck with that.