Chronicles of Ukrainian Nazism

a reply to: gortex

Check out Russian National Unity, RNE, and its rebranding as Russian Orthodox Army.
Or Vostok Battalion, Variagi Brigade and Restrukt all of whom have been active in Donbas to varying degree for quite some time now.

Where have the saying "Attack the Post not the Poster" gone to ATS??

It seems many of the posters have lost their minds since Russia invaded Ukraine (well to tell you the truth many posters have lost their minds since 2016 when Trump became President of US ).

There seems to be no respectful debate or discussion anymore. It's just my Opinion is bigger than your Opinion so stop giving your Opinion.

Like someone said recently "We choose Science over Fiction, we choose Truth over facts" whatever that means

Anyway to the OP,

1.) I don't see the video showing the alleged missile number in the link you provided.

2.) The Youtube videos showing alleged Ukrainian Soldiers removing/moving bodies does not have a time stamp or anything to identify it as the Ukrainian soldiers actually planting bodies or checking them for booby traps.

3.) The video of the US Marine do make sense, if Russia have truly stopped using outdated missiles there is no way this missile can be from Russia but who knows. Anyways Ukraine has a lot to gain by such kind of actions i.e. civilians being killed by alleged Russian missiles. This event whether a false flag or not can be used by Ukraine to drum up public support from many countries.

4.) As to the picture of the Soldier with Nazi symbols... well that's an open secret. But many refuse to see it for what it is.

Well these are just my views and Opinions, I don't have facts.

a reply to: andy06shake

No worse than what our MSM is doing throughout Europe and the US.

Are you denying there's strong Nazi sentiment in Ukraine? 10 minutes of research shows that part is at least true.

a reply to: Grenade

Nope, simply pointing out that the problem is also one that Russia shares in spades.

Are you suggesting Russia's invasion of Ukraine is justifiable down to Putin playing hunt the Nazi whilst they serve amongst his own ranks?

Because the same 10 minutes of research will return plenty of Nazi sentiment in Russia.

a reply to: andy06shake

No, i don't think any offensive war is justified, ever. I do however doubt the official narrative and suspect this current war isn't about territory. I also don't think Putin or Zelensky are the people pulling the strings, certainly some collusion with Western Powers. The current war is just too convenient from too many aspects when you see how it advances the goals of the globalists.

a reply to: Grenade

Snap.

Edit: Putin is madness incarnate Grenade if in doubt see the table nonsense.

My bet is lockdown and COVID 19 addled his brain somewhat or brought about a mental breakdown of sorts.

Where goals are concerned, Russia's seem to change by the minute.

Have to say i quite like "Zelenskyy", i would swap him for Boris if it was possible, put it that way.

a reply to: RussianTroll

What benefit is it to post gore? Yes, it's shocking and horrible. People that are mocking it are gross.

I have no doubt people have died by Ukrainian forces, if a fraction of what I've confirmed as reliable is true some of them are monsters.

This is what happens when you invade countries. It's gross and ugly. The people you invade will do bad stuff. I have no doubt Russian troops are doing terrible things too, much of it not discovered yet since it's behind Russian lines. If this were not a "liberation" mission or the Russian troops make it to the areas not as supportive of Russia I'm sure they'll do worse.

Even if it's all true Putin still isn't the good guy. There would need to be proof of truly horrible things being prevented for anybody to say Putin was a good guy in this and I can't fathom what that would be. Biolabs aren't going to cut it.

More people die the longer it continues. This invasion has already done far more damage to the world than most people realize because they haven't felt the consequences. The leaders are all gunning for war in the west, they have no real share in the consequences. So, the ball is going to be in Putin's court soon.

We'll find out if he's as much of a hero as you believe. The west will get further involved, they've already shown they're happy to get involved. He'll have a chance to withdraw or follow through on his threat. If it was about rescuing Russians in Ukraine he can withdraw after evacuations and anyone choosing to stay is on their own. If he follows through on his threat it's pretty much either the end of the world or we discover aliens are real when they stop the global nuclear exchange.

a reply to: andy06shake

I beg to differ.

I intentionally keep quiet on my perceived reasoning for this war. What i can say is it's not some mentally deranged dictator in a power grab. Rather it's about engineering an economic and energy crisis in the heart of Europe, can't wait for that. Following shortly afterward you have food rationing and famine. This war has been on the agenda long before the pandemic, it's simply a continuation of that narrative. It doesn't matter if you have Boris or Zelensky, they both answer to the same masters.

a reply to: Grenade

The bankers?

Nothing new on that score Grenade.

What matters Grenade is that Russia goes back home.

Simple as that really.

a reply to: andy06shake

Ukraine is a testing ground, Russia is the patsy. The engineers of war will be bringing death and destruction to a country near you soon. Then as we come out the other side we can enjoy the all new digital control system, born from the ashes of the old world, to "save" mankind.

Once upon a time , US media was ALL ABOUT Ukrainian Nazis .
Now they are ALL FOR IT .
????

I thought Boris and Natasha could pull off anything without interference from Moose and Squirrel.

a reply to: neutronflux

Colonel Aleksey Sharov, commander of the 810th Marine Brigade - really died in the battles near Mariupol

Major General Vitaly Gerasimov. Information about the death came from Bellingkat journalist Hristo Grozev. Fake. The Department of Defense has not confirmed the general's death.

Major General Nikolai Kolesnikov, World War I veteran, died in January 1920. Maor General Andrei Kolesnikov, Ukrainian sources reported his death, but the general is alive and well, which is what he wishes you.

Major General Andrei Sukhovetsky - really died during the operation in Ukraine.

Major General Oleg Mityaev. The fake was thrown in by the Ukrainian side and supported by the German Bild. in reality, the general continues to serve as commander of the 201st military base stationed in the Republic of Tajikistan.

Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev - 1 TV channel published a video "Ramzan Kadyrov met with Lieutenant General Andrei Mordvichev, who was declared dead." www.1tv.ru...

General Magomed Tushaev. After his "death", the general released a video "I am the one whom the "cowardly hares" on the Internet called dead" chechnyatoday.com...

I didn't find any more generals on your list.

Use not fakes, but verified information.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

Cheers for the repeated propaganda.

Here is a Nazi Russia made earlier.

2015 apparently.

My grandfather served on the HMS Searcher during WW2 before that on an S class submarine.

And he would be spinning in his grave if he could witness Putin and Russia's antics in this day of age.

I sincerely respect your grandfather, a World War II veteran. Both of my grandfathers also fought. One was an orderly and was seriously wounded in the Crimea in 1942. The second grandfather was the head of intelligence of the 9th Plastun Cossack division, he ended the war in western Czechoslovakia. In Russia, the film "Non-Official Task" was filmed, in which the character of my grandfather was.

But I want to challenge you. There are separate Nazi groups in any state. In Russia, they have all either ceased their activities or are imprisoned by court verdicts.
In Ukraine, the Nazis are power itself. Do you understand the difference?

a reply to: Grenade

Grenade the supercomputer by comparison you carry around in your pocket combined with the extensive CCTV networks and surveillance systems we have in place is all the digital control that's required.

Far as i can establish Ukraine is a warzone never mind testing ground.

a reply to: Ksihkehe


That is, you will justify Nazism and extrajudicial executions of prisoners.
And what will the numerous military personnel of the NATO countries who are in captivity of the armed forces of those countries into which they invaded say?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: RussianTroll

Perhaps you could start a thread on the history of Russian Nazism from WWII to today?

I somehow doubt The Russian Ministry for Propaganda and Mis-information would sanction that.

How about a history of the evils Russia has done to Ukraine over the years. Damn Nazis look like quire boys compared to the Russians.

a reply to: Xtrozero


By the way, according to the testimonies of the captured Azov militants, there are about 200 NATO officers in Mariupol on the territory of the Azovstal plant. Monitoring of radio interceptions indicates that the negotiations are in 6 European languages.

Would you like to see NATO officers in the place of the crucified and burned Russian prisoner?

a reply to: RussianTroll

Thank you for the kind words regarding my grandfather RussianTroll i reciprocate the same towards your own grandparents.

Because lets face facts without the allied team effort in WW2 we mostlighly would not be having this conversation in the manner we now are.

The difference far as i can establish is you claim Russian Nazis have cessed and desisted where there activities in your nation and armed forces are concerned.

Or been apprehended and punished where as i recognise that both nations still have a problem with Nazis amongst there rank and file.

End of the day none of which warrants and invasion of Ukraine that could quite possibly escalate, spread to other nations and provoke a third world war.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

That is, you will justify Nazism and extrajudicial executions of prisoners.
And what will the numerous military personnel of the NATO countries who are in captivity of the armed forces of those countries into which they invaded say?

It is called gaslighting, and I think Russia invented it long before the term came around. There are 100,000s of alt right extremists in Russia. Alt right extremists from all over the world go to Russia too. Its like a breeding ground for them. Putin's mercs he been using since 2015 in the east are alt right extremists.

It really takes very little effort to see it all...

Alt Right in Russia