Chronicles of Ukrainian Nazism

a reply to: andy06shake

My dear friend, the invasion of Ukraine did not begin on February 24, 2022, but in 2014.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: RussianTroll

That is, you will justify Nazism and extrajudicial executions of prisoners.
And what will the numerous military personnel of the NATO countries who are in captivity of the armed forces of those countries into which they invaded say?

It is called gaslighting, and I think Russia invented it long before the term came around. There are 100,000s of alt right extremists in Russia. Alt right extremists from all over the world go to Russia too. Its like a breeding ground for them. Putin's mercs he been using since 2015 in the east are alt right extremists.

It really takes very little effort to see it all...

Alt Right in Russia

I don't know what you call a phenomenon. But so far only Russian prisoners are being tortured and killed, but there is not a single evidence of torture and extrajudicial executions of Ukrainian prisoners of war or captured military personnel of NATO countries.
All of them are alive and well, not even beaten, and willingly testify on camera. There are thousands of such videos.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

Would you like to see NATO officers in the place of the crucified and burned Russian prisoner?

What is the old saying, don't play with fire if you do not want to get burned. Russia can't complain as they been doing worst if it is even true. You and Russia blaming everything on Ukraine as in they are blowing up their own towns, killing their own people ETC. ETC. AND it was Russia that attacked, don't forget that....

At this point I would like to see a shipment of oh 10,000 tank busters with each of them used on a tank or vehicle. We can also take the killing of Russian troops out of the hands of your so called Nazis and use hunter attack drones in the 10,000s too. No need to have prisoner's of war when there will not be any to make a prisoner.

You were the ones to cross the lines. so reap your rewards...

a reply to: RussianTroll

Tend to agree given the picture of the Russian Nazi i posted apprehended apparently sometime in 2015 paints.

Buddy it does not really matter when it started, just that it ends before more people die needlessly, and soon.

Cooler heads need to prevail before it really does all go pear shaped.

You cannot hope to hold or keep Ukraine, and Putin is going to have to decide where your nation goes next whilst you still have some ammunition left, coz after that winter comes and history clearly illustrates what happens to armies in that area in the cold.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

I don't know what you call a phenomenon. But so far only Russian prisoners are being tortured and killed, but there is not a single evidence of torture and extrajudicial executions of Ukrainian prisoners of war or captured military personnel of NATO countries.
All of them are alive and well, not even beaten, and willingly testify on camera. There are thousands of such videos.

I am not deigning that it could not happen. I even said if local fighters saw their town blown up with friends and families killed I don't think they would actually think about the Geneva convention, do you? I also have no problem prosecuting at whatever level it ends up, how about you?

How about civilians killed, women raped and killed, towns destroyed, pillage and plundering as Russians even set up swap meets to sell their plunder? I mean come-on you keep repeating the same lines and never touch the other side... geez

What about the likes of this crap???!!!

www.mirror.co.uk...
www.thesun.co.uk...
www.dailyrecord.co.uk...
www.dailystar.co.uk...

Tell me there is no truth to the likes of this depravity?

Because I'm just about in tears here.

a reply to: andy06shake

Either war can be justified or it can't. Beyond that justification can be subjective to the parties involved.

a reply to: TheLead

Then war cant quite simply be justified.

At least not from an offensive perspective.

And if humanity ever gets her act together and comes to realise that fact she might actually go somewhere other than here.

a reply to: Xtrozero

And let's remember all the invasions of Britain, the USA and NATO?

By Britain. Here is a list of countries that Britain has not invaded.





What about the rest?

a reply to: RussianTroll

What is it you don't get about what century it is through RussianTroll?

People that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

a reply to: andy06shake

The vast majority of Russian Nazis who fled from Russian justice moved to Ukraine and became active fighters in the Azov Regiment and other Nazi battalions.

a reply to: andy06shake

I know both Russian and world history well. I can competently tell you that there is nothing new in the world. The same thing always happens, but only denounced in new words and terms.

Russians have a proverb: "Everything new is a well-forgotten old." Because human nature does not change.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Again you miss the point and seem to remain completely fixated with the Nazi issue/rhetoric.

Plus you might need some proof as to these Russian Nazis relocation regarding Ukrainian battalions.

a reply to: Xtrozero

As you quite correctly point out over the centuries Ukraine has suffered a lot at the hands of Russia, more than what many care to realise. People really should take the time to read up a bit on Ukraine history.
And Russia has been quite brutal at times at enforcing its control over the Ukrainian people.

Many Russians like RT simply view Ukraine as a constituent part of Russia with no separate identity and that somehow justifies the current invasion and all the subsequent death and destruction.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

And let's remember all the invasions of Britain, the USA and NATO?

Come on you are talking to a guy that has been in the military since 1980 and then spent years overseas after my 28 years in. I don't care about your whataboutisms. Russia invaded, we do not like it so we kill the Russians that invaded, its pretty damn simple.

This isn't about right or wrong it is about flexing power. Russia wanted to flex their power and try to justify it with some righteousness propaganda BS. Russia flexed and so a good chunk of the world is flexing back.

If you suggest Russia has the right to invade doesn't everyone else have a right to either support it or not?

This whole NATO in Mariupol thing. If there is any in Ukraine, not saying they aren’t, they sure as hell would’ve never been stationed there. That spot was forecasted to be one of the hottest zones especially considering the “land bridge” was talked about in the very beginning of the invasion.

NATO has literal military masterminds. They wouldn’t send anyone to a zone everyone knew was going to get that hot in case of what is happening now. NATO personnel ends up dead or captured there, there would be no plausible deniability.

Do I think NATO officers are in Ukraine? Hell yeah, I’d have them there too. Anywhere near east or south Ukraine? Hell no.

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: Ksihkehe


That is, you will justify Nazism and extrajudicial executions of prisoners.

You are playing the same game as your detractors now?

Don't. It's not classy and I remain fairly polite, if a bit terse.

And what will the numerous military personnel of the NATO countries who are in captivity of the armed forces of those countries into which they invaded say?

I have no idea what you're asking, but will try to answer.

This has happened numerous times during US involvement in the world. Soldiers are killed and burned and hung from things. When you invade a country there are going to be people doing sick things.

It's unjustifiable and inhumane, but it's also an inevitable consequence of conflict.

I live in the real world. I don't understand how people commit such inhumane behavior, but I expect it to happen because I live in the real world.

I feel like I'm telling children on both sides that actions have consequences and they simply don't get it. You don't have to like it, but you must accept reality. All this back and forth propaganda helps nobody. Now it's a childish game of tit for tat while people die and both Internet cheerleader teams, who are far enough away to be safe, cheer for war. I don't care who "wins" right now because I care what happens to the people living there and would like to prevent a nuclear exchange.

This is a global failure of leadership, a scourge on humanity, and it can all be traced back to world leaders along with their handlers. They have bled dry the citizens for decades, have used them as fodder, and have done little to truly benefit the citizens.

a reply to: RussianTroll

Change is inevitable RussianTroll and those that refuse to do so tend to stagnate and die on the vine.

"What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun." Ecclesiastes 1:9

a reply to: andy06shake

If you are seriously interested in the Nazi problem in Russia, you can find a lot of materials on how the Russian Nazis moved to Ukraine. The list is very long, including in the leadership of Azov. In Ukraine, Nazi demonstrations repeatedly took place demanding that they be given Ukrainian citizenship. It's all on the net, both articles and videos, and Ukrainian ones at that.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

If you are seriously interested in the Nazi problem in Russia, you can find a lot of materials on how the Russian Nazis moved to Ukraine. The list is very long, including in the leadership of Azov. In Ukraine, Nazi demonstrations repeatedly took place demanding that they be given Ukrainian citizenship. It's all on the net, both articles and videos, and Ukrainian ones at that.

I think the question no one is asking is so what? If there are Nazis there so what? If there are then I'm pretty sure much of it is because of the evils Russia did over the years to the population. The problem is Russia calls everyone there that is a nationalist a Nazi, and that is far from the truth, but their reason to invade. We have Nazis in America, they have a right to be Nazis BTW...lol