Do people support the Kremlin because they don't like Joe Biden ?

a reply to: radaghast5

Since when was being anti-war being pro-Putin?

Really curious here.

I don't support either, but I can tell you who the Satanists support. Satanists call up power from Lucifer, through witches, just like Zellenski. Keep in mind that the Wing witches coven, that Hillary belongs to was called up to attack Trump.

What trash!

I have friends in Russia and Ukraine, and do not support murder, with one exception... I wish death on all those who request Satanic power.

I have been hearing Russia since 2012...

I refer to Obama telling putin he will have more leeway after the election, and making fun of Romney for saying Russia was a threat.

Then it was Trump/Russia...and that is STILL going.

Then we are told Hunters laptop is Russian disinfo... 2 years later and oops, it is real.

Then Biden canels our domestic oil products and its russias fault we are now buying from them and the price going up is Russian fault.

And now war in the Ukraine is Russian fault solely. People were praising zolensky for giving guns to fight the russians...and then bitch when the Russians shoot back.

So yeah, I don't believe zolensky and I c÷rainy don't trust our media and their lapdog politicians when they say Russia anymore.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Fun game. Can I play?

The left called everyone a nazi and justified their hate based on that nonesense. Now supporting actual nazis in Ukraine.

Ok, thats my turn

Lemme go next.
Do people support Putin because they loved Obama and Obama supported Putin?

a reply to: radaghast5

I have equal levels of contempt for them both.

You shouldn’t generalize a group of voters as right or left or whatever. It’s like saying all Mexicans are landscapers. And FYI….I a am of Mexican descent and I am not a landscaper. It I can mow a mean lawn and trim me some trees. Negative star for you !!! a reply to: radaghast5

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: radaghast5

Since when was being anti-war being pro-Putin?

Really curious here.

I'm more anti-nuclear apocalypse than anti-war...I think that means I want to be Putin's baby mama.

originally posted by: radaghast5
Seems a lot of people on the right support Vladmir Putin. Is it because of their hatred for the left? I mean, you have to really hate a group to support the greatest war atrocities we've seen since ww2.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: radaghast5

Pretty much. The Right were anti-Putin until Obama started having issues with him.

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originally posted by: radaghast5

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: radaghast5

Where are these lots of people?

"I stand/sit/kneel in support/condemnation of the current thing." TM

Just reading a few Right-leaning forums.
Many people think it's fake. They deflect from the facts on the ground. They think Ukraine is bombing themselves and Russia hasn't killed any civilians.

How does thinking it's fake automatically support Putin ?
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originally posted by: radaghast5
I mean, you have to really hate a group to support the greatest war atrocities we've seen since ww2.

www.history.com...

The Khmer Rouge was a brutal regime that ruled Cambodia, under the leadership of Marxist dictator Pol Pot, from 1975 to 1979. Pol Pot’s attempts to create a Cambodian “master race” through social engineering ultimately led to the deaths of more than 2 million people in the Southeast Asian country. Those killed were either executed as enemies of the regime, or died from starvation, disease or overwork. Historically, this period—as shown in the film The Killing Fields—has come to be known as the Cambodian Genocide.

Estimates of casualties of the Vietnam War vary widely. Estimates include both civilian and military deaths in North and South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

1,353,000 total deaths in North and South Vietnam during the period 1965–1974 in which the U.S. was most engaged in the war. Lewy reduced the number of Viet Cong (VC) and People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN) battle deaths claimed by the U.S. by 30 percent (in accordance with the opinion of United States Department of Defense officials), and assumed that one-third of the reported battle deaths of the PAVN/VC may have actually been civilians. He estimates that between 30 and 46% of the total war deaths were civilians. His estimate of total deaths is reflected in the table.[3]

I don't trust Russia or Ukraine lol or America and NATO, of course, we need to get a cease-fire and a withdrawal of Russian forces.

originally posted by: radaghast5
And yet one corner of the American right continues to support Russia, or at least Russian talking points, despite the lack of any clear political reason for it to do so.

www.newstatesman.com...

interesting read.

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About the New Statesman

The New Statesman is the leading progressive political and cultural magazine in the United Kingdom.

a reply to: UpThenDown

So I know this is an extreme concept these days...but hear me out. If you look at both sides of a story or event reported from 2 sides of major bias...then use some deduction and critical thinking...maybe even some logic...you can arrive at a much more likely conclusion than you would had you just listened to one side or the other.

I know I know...flame on...but I swear this wild concept actually works better than just going full NPC and picking a side!

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: radaghast5
Seems a lot of people on the right support Vladmir Putin. Is it because of their hatred for the left? I mean, you have to really hate a group to support the greatest war atrocities we've seen since ww2.

People can disdain Putin and Biden simultaneously for different reasons. We don't have to "choose a side" because frankly, all the sides suck except the republic of Ukraine who can't get a word in between fascists of the east and oligarchs of the west.

Well put

originally posted by: theatreboy
I have been hearing Russia since 2012...

I refer to Obama telling putin he will have more leeway after the election, and making fun of Romney for saying Russia was a threat.

Then it was Trump/Russia...and that is STILL going.

Then we are told Hunters laptop is Russian disinfo... 2 years later and oops, it is real.

Then Biden canels our domestic oil products and its russias fault we are now buying from them and the price going up is Russian fault.

And now war in the Ukraine is Russian fault solely. People were praising zolensky for giving guns to fight the russians...and then bitch when the Russians shoot back.

So yeah, I don't believe zolensky and I c÷rainy don't trust our media and their lapdog politicians when they say Russia anymore.

then there is the southern border they undid, coz orange man bad

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: radaghast5
And yet one corner of the American right continues to support Russia, or at least Russian talking points, despite the lack of any clear political reason for it to do so.

www.newstatesman.com...

interesting read.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 your zource is ultra Progressive biased..


About the New Statesman

The New Statesman is the leading progressive political and cultural magazine in the United Kingdom.

Well let's be honest here. We've all been "internetting" for a long time now. I'm not sure how alternative news is more credible than msm. All sites are "fake news" I guess. Even yours. People have their own beliefs and no one can ever change those beliefs. It's literally impossible to change any ones mind about anything on an internet forum.
But that's not the real source. The real source is actual online forums. Like this one. There seems to be a real and honest disdain towards America/Canada from those who reside there.
"Freedom" seems to be a word used a lot by the Right. It's a good word, That's for sure.
Can anyone here tell me how Russia, as a whole, is a more "free" country for its citizens than the U.S.A or Canada?
(and I'm not saying you cannot)

originally posted by: JinMI

Fun game. Can I play?

The left called everyone a nazi and justified their hate based on that nonesense. Now supporting actual nazis in Ukraine.

Ok, thats my turn

Today we just throw labels around at will just hoping something will stick. About 90% of Ukrainians want to be free from Russia so they are called nationalist, and everyone knows a nationalist is a Nazi, just ask Putin. It is interesting that "Mein Kampf" has been recently a best-seller in Germany, Sweden, India, and Turkey but no where is Ukraine mentioned, what is up with that?

a reply to: radaghast5

Have you ever contemplated maybe...that both sides lie for their own benefit and that if you want a more accurate picture you have to look at both sides and use critical thought. If you know the MSM lies...and if you suspect the alt news sites of being dishonest and you think Russia's news is lying...you must look at all of them objectively and use some critical thinking...

a reply to: Xtrozero

90% if you omit the russian controlled donbass areas and even still, im sure its only rising.

So on that we can agree.

Now the rub. What is the number of nazis that have power under the Ukranian govt acceptable?

See my point now?

And now war in the Ukraine is Russian fault solely. People were praising zolensky for giving guns to fight the russians...and then bitch when the Russians shoot back.

I, like many here have been on the internet for more than 2 decades and I've followed every news story from start to finish.
If you don't realize it yet, this is the biggest story you've ever witnessed. It's the most brutal story you've ever witnessed.
It's not a story about Obama.
A super power is razing an entire country.
Can you even comprehend what the smell of rotten flesh and diesel fuel smells like?
Infants buried under rubble. Yes it's true. It's been block-chain verified by thousands of people. Not CNN, thousands of normal people are documenting it.
Honestly this is bigger than American politics.
It's not Obama who did this, it's Putin.


Cheers

I bought more bulk wheat berries last night.

I remember wondering how the price of wheat was going to sky rocket to a full days wages for a quart of wheat, or 3 quarts of barley. I don't wonder anymore. I see it coming. A nuclear exchange would bring it even sooner. Biden is the perfect one to get it done. He is a life long failure, with dementia, and one foot in the grave. Putin likely has a foot in the grave as well. Two terminal idiots starting a world war. How fun!