New And Revised UFO Quote Directory.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

One of the best quotes of all time.. right up there with the William J. Casey quote.

Yes both rather important ones Kev and looks like we're neck deep in Mockingbird droppings these days - also seems they're becoming increasingly desperate to prep (and reset) a new pseudo narrative.

Regarding real world reports there does appear to be lots of very strange accounts coming out of a localised area in Yorkshire, England.

• "It looked like a huge breadstick above the trees."

Researcher Paul Sinclair.

Video: 1 / 2

a reply to: karl 12

Karl,

do you track 'high strangeness' accounts as such?
Those are the only ones of any interest to many of us.

I'm sure you know this, but for others... there are actually
far more 'high strangeness accounts' than one might think,
but as the MUFON investigator told me, who investigated
my case, theres a lot of pressure to 'edit out the high
strangeness' from reports,

and also of course, people are too embarassed to admit,
that their 'ufo' giggled or offered them a pancake.

I suppose I'd also like to say... that I don't rule out 'alien
tech' as being so 'psychoactive'.. it's certainly a valid
theory to consider...

I'm only against STUPID UFOLOGY, CIA fakery and perceptual
longings for dust bunnies and such to mean something.. i'm
not in any way a 'debunker'. I simply submit that we should
investigate real mysteries, not be take like a chump by
either the government or our own bias.

Thanks,

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Investigating HS is fine but that doesn’t guarantee success. In the West and other areas of the planet, we’ve had ghost hunters, mystics of various sorts, ufo seekers, government projects, and private folks researching HS for decades and still lack any common paradigm about reality.

I’m not religious per se but think the concept of general enlightenment in an apocalyptic type sense sounds like a reasonable scenario for the solving of all mysteries: satisfying the unsatisfied, undeveloped, and corrupted. And understanding that likely it revolves around our general unsatisfactory experience in this world from a Buddhistic and Hermetic and the major western religions( somewhat)type perspective.

I mean, would a satisfied, happy, free of the kind of suffering humans experience in this world give a damn about ufos, ghosts, and other HS?! I doubt it.

The bottom line then we’re talking about a philosophical and spiritual perspective behind this, which touches on the essential experience of humans on this planet, dimension, and reality.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

The bottom line then we’re talking about a philosophical and spiritual perspective behind this, which touches on the essential experience of humans on this planet, dimension, and reality.

You've been writing som good stuff bro.

I was just responding on this topic in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But to summarize something.. I know you know this... all this 'stuff' seems
so baffling, because it's psychoactive... we tend to see (or create) what
we are looking for..

and since the biology/physics interface to 'weird stuff' goes through the
nastiest part of the human pysche,

we cook up all this nasty stuff and we've turned Earth into a Hellworld
inhabited by our own phantoms,

These 'phantoms' are US in many ways, and for whatever retatded reasons
we want to roll around in our pain, we want to roll around in all the nasty
stuff we create, and above all, on some level, WE FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL
to keep our own complicitness hidden from ourselves.

I'm not 'blaming the victim'.

When something is 'nasty' it's hypnotic. When something is confusing,
and 'transcendant', it's 'hyponotic'.

And our Id (to use a Freudian term) wants to be let out... and to be
let out, it needs to keep the conscious rational mind hypnotised and
baffled.

I'm not even going to bring up whehter there is REALLY anything else
out there or not.. that's a long topic.

But the psycoactive nature and limited capabilities of our own
"dark/injured selves" are the next thing, I would suggest, that
we need to understand, to wrap the BS away from all this
'modern mythology' that we all love to create.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

No doubt about it some of the weirdness is from the mind. A quick story:

At Wholefoods, I brought some Pecans. Walked off without seeing the price. My mind said, look at the price since nuts are expensive lately.

Anyway, I peered down at the price for the nuts and they were exactly 11 dollars. WTF, I said in my own mind to myself. 11 dollars for these few nuts, seconds no more than a few minutes later I looked on the floor at whole foods and saw some money. Oh, dam I said, someone lost their money, and first thought I was going to yell out” did anyone lose some money! And in my minds/heart, I felt for the person who might have needed that money.

Anyway, I thought better since it was absurd to do that, and lo and behold the amount of money was exactly 11 dollars!

My thought from buying the pecans and commiserating the high price and my inner complaint about it and empathy for the one who lost the money and finding the 11 bucks was in a time span of seconds to minutes.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

do you track 'high strangeness' accounts as such?

Some pretty freaky accounts in those last two video links Kev, did you find time to watch them?

Wouldn't say I 'track' but there's certainly some high strangeness attached to some UFO statements already posted such as George Kowalczyk speaking in tongues and Ted Phillips discussing poltergeist activity after a UFO encounter.

Here's Ted Phillip's assistant talking about Marley Woods.

• "It is a place of high strangeness that goes back several generations."

Researcher Thomas Ferrario.

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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

Those are the only ones of any interest to many of us.

Not sure who you mean by 'us' but suppose many of the close range UFO descriptions are still of interest to many folk (especially government).

If you're not interested then no worries but would agree the more you dig into the background of certain cases the more freaky aspects you sometimes find.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

I'm sure you know this, but for others... there are actually
far more 'high strangeness accounts' than one might think,
but as the MUFON investigator told me, who investigated
my case, theres a lot of pressure to 'edit out the high strangeness' from reports

Yes, couldn't agree more - that also happens a lot in cryptid research.


Video

a reply to: karl 12

Karl,

I'm completley cryptid friendly!

I consider 'high strangeness UFOs' and Cryptids
to be exactly, precisely, the very same thing.

Now I know a lot of people don't like this view.

In any case, it's mostly common knowledge,
that if you see an actual crypitd, that orbs
and UFOs are not far behind and vice versa.

hell Karl, in a manner of speaking, I saw a
cryptid as part of my BTUFO summoning
experience.. it arrived about 30 minutes
before the 'UFO' and paralyzed me with
fear for 10 minutes to so. I didn't smell
any sulfur, or 'wet dog', but sure..

I'm a real nit-pickter about what is a
delusion, what is an illusion, what is
generated by our own minds, and what
may actually be 'real'.. so I dont' reach
for 'ctyptid' as my first go to.. but I[
certainly see why some would...

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Orbs have been seen in purported areas in which purported Bigfoot’s are “known” to roam.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Orbs have been seen in purported areas in which purported Bigfoot’s are “known” to roam.

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Yup. I've studied this topic in extreme detail.

Really, I can't say for certain, but I'm more prone to the view, that it's the 'orbs'
that are the real thing, and its' the 'cryptids' and the 'UFOs' which are the
high-strangeness projections.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Orbs have been seen in purported areas in which purported Bigfoot’s are “known” to roam.

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Yup. I've studied this topic in extreme detail.

Really, I can't say for certain, but I'm more prone to the view, that it's the 'orbs'
that are the real thing, and its' the 'cryptids' and the 'UFOs' which are the
high-strangeness projections.

I suppose so…if the orbs are in three’s and projecting an RGB holographic 3D triangulated figure….hmmm

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

yah.

when I 'summoned the BTUFO' there were parts of the 'ship'
that felt alive more than other parts of the 'ship'.

I'ts like 'Little Red Wagon Theory' which I posted in RATS..
I wasn't joking.. it's literally a key to unlock a lot of crazy
stuff..

The 'archetypcal' series of 3 lights, or 3 blue orbs, or
whatvver.. ('3' always seems to come up),

are perhaps what we should be paying attention to,
and ABSOLUTELY ignoring any other 'wagon contents'.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

yah.

when I 'summoned the BTUFO' there were parts of the 'ship'
that felt alive more than other parts of the 'ship'.

Imagine that…..a cyborgatic sized craft. There was once a show titled LEXX…. It was a living bio-organic craft in which the characters lived on, roaming deep space and having adventures. It to was summonable.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I watched that entire series.

I love SCI FI, even twisted SCI FI.

My experimental evidence does not especially support
that exact scenario, but I do have to remain open-minded..

it's the only reason I'm only 99% certain that actual 'ships'
are not involved.

Of course, if one were to be an 'energy critter', an 'orb'
is just a ship by another name.

Since Jacques Vallée was mentioned several times...Remember that time during Watergate when Edward Lansdale planned to fake the second coming of a pro-US Christ using submarine-mounted holograms to distract/manipulate the catholic population of Cuba long enough to stage and justify an invasion?

Vallée: "which is well within our technology."

Jacques Vallée mentions all of this in a late 80s (1987?) interview, starting @6:37:

youtu.be...

a reply to: XtheMadnessNow

long enough

I had the man on my couch all day.

I'm personally dubious such a charade could
be maintained over any major distance, or
for any major duration, before non-superstitious
people caught on.

(but thanks for the clip!)

I think Iv'e crapped up Karls' thread enough for this month,
I'm going to unusbscribe from this worthy thread, and return
It to it's original purpose.

(thread drift)

originally posted by: peaceinoutz

I mean, would a satisfied, happy, free of the kind of suffering humans experience in this world give a damn about ufos, ghosts, and other HS?! I doubt it.

Intriguing point there mate and was put in mind of the pretty horrific results of John B. Calhoun's 'mouse utopia' experiment (and who funded it).

Could well be the direction humanity is headed (herded) - especially when you factor in the planned overcrowding and complete lack of privacy in future 'smart cities'.


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Talking of apathy and a complete lack of curiosity was a bit shocked to hear this statement coming from an actual scientist.

• "These people have seen something - What it is I do not know and am not curious to know."

Albert Einstein, Institute for Advanced Study, Princeton, New Jersey (reply letter to Californian Minister Louis A. Gardner, July 23rd, 1952).

Link

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

i'm not in any way a 'debunker'. I simply submit that we should investigate real mysteries, not be take like a chump by either the government or our own bias.

Yes well said Kev and would say the chump factor also comes into play when people just mindlessly accept many of the official UFO explanations.

Fair comment about those cognitive biases (as I'm sure we all have them) and perhaps that's why objectivity and the removal of ego are said to be important when attempting to investigate any type of 'phenomena'.

Certainly never saw you as a debunker and thought Kevin made an interesting observation below about their 'true believer' status.

• "Clearly there's a difference between sceptics and debunkers.."

Researcher Kevin Randle.

Video

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

Orbs have been seen in purported areas in which purported Bigfoot’s are “known” to roam.

Yes mate sounds bonkers but suppose you've got to 'follow the data'.

•“There is no doubt a body of work that has Bigfoot-like creatures directly connected to UFO sightings.” 

Janet and Colin Bord.

Link

Also found it interesting that 'orbs' maintain a separate connection to cryptids, UFOs and apparitions yet all three are reported to produce the Oz factor and EM effects.

Really does make one wonder about the effects of high electrical fields on the human brain.

originally posted by: XtheMadnessNow

Forgot how good that interview actually was - many thanks for posting it.

Some giddy speculation there from Jacques (who may well be right) about these objects carrying around their own spacetime and also forgot to add this relevant quote from Marc Davenport.

• "We have the occupants of these craft are continually telling people - they ask them questions like what time is it, what is time, what is your time, what is age, what is a year and they say 'You are caught in time and we're not - our time is different from yours'.

Time is distorted in the vicinity of these craft and inside these craft - a lot of time people's watches will stop, we have people who say that their voices are distorted when they're near these craft like when they breathe helium or something. So we have all sorts of indications that these things are in some kind of a field that warps space and time."

Researcher Marc Davenport.

Video: 2:30

Strange marks appearing on the body are also freaky UFO (and Fae) aspects and there's another case recounted below where a family experienced triangular marks even though the father was not present at the encounter.



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Regarding holograms there was a really intriguing pdf from Latin researcher Scott Corales entitled 'Holograms And High Strangeness' which now appears to have been wiped from the web - don't suppose you've ever come across it?

a reply to: karl 12

you said,

Certainly never saw you as a debunker

Glad to hear it. Many people think that I'm a debunker,
as I'm not afraid to point out govvernment deception,
problems with perception, personal bias, etc.

I personally find the case for millions of random
'nuts and bolts' craft' visiting us, but never leaving
one IOTA of usable evidence; contraindiates
the ETH.

On the other hand, I see STRONG correlations between
"UFOs' and 'Cryptids' with 'poltergeist effects'.

But since I don't confirm the very flaky bias, that we
simply must be surrouended by advanced biological
aliens in nuts and bolts ships, becaue someone
doesn't know how to focus a camera or what not..

then I'm often treated as a 'debunker'.

To me this stuff is IMPORTANT. Shouldn't we do an
accurate job of investigating?

I dislike the terms debunker and skeptic in general,
as they are used as personal attacks, and not used
per their dictionary definitions.

BTW..

I nearly always love your posts Kark!

a reply to: karl 12

Also found it interesting that 'orbs' maintain a separate connection to cryptids, UFOs and apparitions yet all three are reported to produce the Oz factor and EM effects.

Really does make one wonder about the effects of high electrical fields on the human brain.

ABSOLUTELY; BUT:

that would not explain huge, impressive, detailed 'craft' or other phenomenon
at a fair distance..

as such a powerful EM pulse would wipe out a cities/regions electronics,
or something similar.

Since that hasn't happened that I'm aware of, that can't be a universal
answer, in my opinion.