Confidential Leaked Pfizer Side Effects List Is Horrific

a reply to: chr0naut

How does it support your argument? You're saying it is alright to kill 68,697 people because millions of others didn't die when they were jabbed.

Millions didn't die with a sars-cov-2 infection, so why bother counting those as a vaccine success - the immune system beat the vaccine -- injecting those 68,697 people was an waste of time.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How does it support your argument? You're saying it is alright to kill 68,697 people because millions of others didn't die when they were jabbed.

Millions didn't die with a sars-cov-2 infection, so why bother counting those as a vaccine success - the immune system beat the vaccine -- injecting those 68,697 people was an waste of time.

Also, medicine was never supposed to work that way. You know, the whole hippocratic oath thing. If a drug kills more than 15 or 20 people it's usually immediately pulled. You don't get into a numbers game where the vaccine only killed 90% as many people so it's ok.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

How does it support your argument? You're saying it is alright to kill 68,697 people because millions of others didn't die when they were jabbed.

Millions didn't die with a sars-cov-2 infection, so why bother counting those as a vaccine success - the immune system beat the vaccine -- injecting those 68,697 people was an waste of time.

In the US nearly a million people have died of the disease that the jabs seek to protect people from.

Sometimes, you have to make a decision. Do you risk a few, to save far more?

a reply to: chr0naut


What??? You using the ends justifies the means argument.

So you consider the million number you quoted as being a 100% certainty that they all died OF just a sars-cov-2 infection and without the Pandemic everyone of them would be alive today?


Seems strange argument -- that a virus the majority of humans don't have any symptoms of being infected with, need to risk their lives and long term health to have no symptoms but still be able to be infected and transmit to others.
All in the hope that people, with weaken immune systems, don't come in contact with the viral particle that people can unknowingly be carrying when they have no symptoms.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

What??? You using the ends justifies the means argument.

Are you not?

So you consider the million number you quoted as being a 100% certainty that they all died OF just a sars-cov-2 infection and without the Pandemic everyone of them would be alive today?

I actually quoted 'nearly a million'. The actual number today, from JHU, is 967,175 deaths in the US from COVID-19.

Just as some of the people who die of gunshot wounds may also have other causes of death, it would be stupid to suggest that significant numbers died with a gunshot wound rather than from a gunshot wound, the argument that significant numbers died with rather than from COVID-19 is vacuous and unreasonable. The numbers quoted have COVID-19 as a cause of death on their death certificates - that's probably extremely accurate, especially in the US where they would have died in hospital acute care, under medical observation of the progression of the disease.

Of course we could say speculatively that some of those who died of COVID-19 may also have died of other causes if they hadn't caught the disease, but the fact is, they died of COVID-19 and it was recorded as COD on their death certificate.

Seems strange argument -- that a virus the majority of humans don't have any symptoms of being infected with,

In the US, 1.215% of people who have been provably been shown to have had the disease, have died from it. The current number of averaged daily deaths, calculated on the last 28 days, indicates the deaths of more than 1,500 US citizens per day.

And death is just one symptom, there are other long-term issues the disease can cause, too.

need to risk their lives and long term health to have no symptoms but still be able to be infected and transmit to others.
All in the hope that people, with weaken immune systems, don't come in contact with the viral particle that people can unknowingly be carrying when they have no symptoms.

Your denial of a known, and now fairly common disease, is showing.

a reply to: chr0naut

So you still advocate killing people to save others, on the vague hope that their deaths did some good for a short period of time.

As for labelling on death certificates seems if a for profit organization says just Pneumonia they get a lot less than if they add covid-19 to the certificate. Where's the harm they might have had the virus.

The Sars-cov-2 viral particle exists and depending on your immune system has been shown to cause a variety of outcomes.

I don't think having 67,000+ plus people dying just to slow a spread of viral particles for a few weeks is worth it.

How many people do you want to die to protect you?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: chr0naut

What??? You using the ends justifies the means argument.

Are you not?

So you consider the million number you quoted as being a 100% certainty that they all died OF just a sars-cov-2 infection and without the Pandemic everyone of them would be alive today?

I actually quoted 'nearly a million'. The actual number today, from JHU, is 967,175 deaths in the US from COVID-19.

Just as some of the people who die of gunshot wounds may also have other causes of death, it would be stupid to suggest that significant numbers died with a gunshot wound rather than from a gunshot wound, the argument that significant numbers died with rather than from COVID-19 is vacuous and unreasonable. The numbers quoted have COVID-19 as a cause of death on their death certificates - that's probably extremely accurate, especially in the US where they would have died in hospital acute care, under medical observation of the progression of the disease.

Of course we could say speculatively that some of those who died of COVID-19 may also have died of other causes if they hadn't caught the disease, but the fact is, they died of COVID-19 and it was recorded as COD on their death certificate.

Seems strange argument -- that a virus the majority of humans don't have any symptoms of being infected with,

In the US, 1.215% of people who have been provably been shown to have had the disease, have died from it. The current number of averaged daily deaths, calculated on the last 28 days, indicates the deaths of more than 1,500 US citizens per day.

And death is just one symptom, there are other long-term issues the disease can cause, too.

need to risk their lives and long term health to have no symptoms but still be able to be infected and transmit to others.
All in the hope that people, with weaken immune systems, don't come in contact with the viral particle that people can unknowingly be carrying when they have no symptoms.

Your denial of a known, and now fairly common disease, is showing.

Wrong, you are using the propaganda of died FROM versus died WITH. The real number is 6% of that.