Why are atheist so angry with God?

originally posted by: elysiumfire

Why are atheist so angry with God?

Strange question considering that atheists don't accept there to be a God at all. So how can they be angry at something they don't perceive as existing, or ever having done?

No. The question is nonsense. Atheists are not angry with God, they are simply despairing at all the people who actually accept the thought of there being a God.

is that like me thinking they suck at playing guitar when they think they are great and then dissing me for my thought?

originally posted by: sarahvital
is that like me thinking they suck at playing guitar when they think they are great and then dissing me for my thought?

No, it's like you saying you're great at playing guitar, but when we look at you all you are strumming is air guitar.

originally posted by: daskakik
It isn't clear that he means the beginning of eternal life

The disciples say to Jesus: "Tell us what our end will be." Jesus says: "Have you then deciphered the beginning, that you ask about the end? For where the beginning is, there shall be the end. Blessed is the man who reaches the beginning; he will know the end, and will not taste death!"

Not experiencing death from thereon means your life is eternal. The beginning of eternal life is the end of temporal life.. the Alpha-Omega

a reply to: cooperton
The beginning and the end is God.
God alone exists.

originally posted by: cooperton
The disciples say to Jesus: "Tell us what our end will be." Jesus says: "Have you then deciphered the beginning, that you ask about the end? For where the beginning is, there shall be the end. Blessed is the man who reaches the beginning; he will know the end, and will not taste death!"

Do you know that this is from the gospel of Thomas?

I knew there was a reason why it didn't sound familiar to me, it isn't actually a canonical book of the bible. I had not read it but I did last night and know I know why it isn't.

Besides the fact that a group of people decided what to include and exclude pretty much shows the warning about adding and taking away from the word didn't work, making the whole thing unreliable.

Here you are quoting something outside the bible which contains things like this:

(114) Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

I think we all have that deep knowledge there is a God......

Atheists are mad because things don't always work out or their prayers don't get answered they want....

I get frustrated with God sometimes and I need to check myself because that gets you nowhere and it comes from a place of misunderstanding..

I think this goes for the majority of "atheists"

True atheist is probably rare because we all came from the creator and that knowledge is built into our DNA....

It is what it is......I wish some of you could at least admit that..

a reply to: cooperton

Originally posted by cooperton
I think it is more than just Jews/Christians that have historically, and currently, worship the Most High God. Christ so happens to be the firstborn of that Apex God.

That’s a pretty unique Christian view…as most Christians don’t accept that Muslim’s or even Jews are following the God of Christianity…not sure what other belief systems you have in mind… Zoroastrianism perhaps…

Originally posted by cooperton
I think reincarnation is the exception rather than the norm. So many self-righteous spiritualists suppose they're the reincarnation of some iconic figure, but it is probably their soul's first go. Consider how small the population in the past was... even if reincarnation is the norm, there wouldn't be enough historic Souls to accommodate the number of living humans at the current time.

Well yes, if you just limit Souls to reincarnation, then the numbers won’t add up…but there is incarnation…where Souls could come from many other worlds and spiritual planes etc…in that case the numbers could potentially be infinite…

Originally posted by cooperton
Yeah I would bet that the only Souls that can reincarnate are the ones that ascended into heaven.

But then they too could run the risk themselves of going to Hell…

Preexisting Souls would either just stay where they are or go to another world or plane of experience…I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t even try to run the risk of coming here and being potentially condemned to hell...

Considering your unique “Christian” beliefs…it doesn’t make much sense for you to be bringing up “Pascals Wager”, as all preexisting Souls who come from Heaven would just stay put, or incarnate somewhere else…they certainly wouldn’t risk venturing down here to Earth…

Although having said the above, a lot depends on how you are viewing Hell… but even if your view of Hell is different from the Traditional one…then again it doesn’t make much sense for you to be bringing up “Pascals Wager”…which is an argument about avoiding eternal punishment in Hell…

- JC

a reply to: Randyvine2

(not directed at you, more of a rant)

It's the fact that there are some people, that make the argument in favor of free will. Free will being, free. That the woes of the world are ultimately man's decisions. Fair enough.

Then I show verses from the Bible that clearly show, that that isn't the case.

It's all our decisions. Even though, it clearly isn't necessarily.

And to drag it out a bit more... God interfering with free will, 'they' will say, well the person still had a choice.

Okay, so God is into peer pressure. Stumbling blocks..

Bottom line here is. I have yet to hear anyone other than non believers acknowledge the fact that their precious God is not impartial, does not give a crap about the free will they rave about, and has his own agenda.

The farthest they will go boils down to, 'if they're sinners its okay'.

And that's great, if you want to believe in some higher power tucking you in at night. Just go to sleep and ignore what doesn't jive. Wake up and yell at atheists as cherry picking God haters, tell us we still believe in God...somehow... ..Believe that your God isn't #ing with your head... No it's only us that scrutinize.

How many people burned at the stake thanks to this mindset?

Can't even wrap their minds around people who don't believe...

And how the hell can anyone expect me to believe this bull# narrative? And even if it is true, do I want to be part of it? Do I want to give my life to some dude in the clouds that exercises double standards, and killed his own son. Out of all his other options. And, as a divine do whatever the # I want type of being..

Hopefully you get my point.

I will never ever worship this Christian God, even if all my issues with the Bible could be cleared up and he is proven to exist. Bottom line, he is an asshole. Send me to hell. All my favorite bands are there.

Feel free to look at my posts in this thread. The questions are there. Although they might get some interesting answers, they were rhetorical because, let's face it.. When the entrenched believers cant answer, they ignore.

Don't preach at me using your Bible, if you can't back up the criticisms of said Bible, and it's narrative. (general statement)



Do I believe there is a 'higher power'? Well I wouldn't know. I just know it isn't Jesus, any more than it's Muhammed, Buddha, or Vishnu.

ETA Plot Twist: Already gave my life to the Lord. Once saved always saved? Guess it depends on who you ask. Can't even get it straight amongst themselves. Hard to know what's true or not, with all those lying spirits hanging about, ya know?

a reply to: cooperton

No, it doesn't do that at all. (evolution)

That is you projecting.

With all due respect, people can find meaning in existence, without believing in a higher power. Be it yours, or whoever's. With or without believing in Evolution.

No hopelessness, no nihilism.

That should be some common ground amongst all parties.

Unless you are saying life as no meaning unless God gives it to you...

My conciseness gives me the ability to find meaning in any number of things.

And I absolutely do.

Life is what you make it!

a reply to: WakeUpBeer


"He who knows himself knows his Lord; Indeed, He is his very identity and reality.” – Ibn Arabi

"If men knew themselves, they would know God; and if they really knew God, they would be satisfied with Him and would think of Him alone.” – Ibn Arabi

a reply to: Joecroft

That’s a pretty unique Christian view…as most Christians don’t accept that Muslim’s or even Jews are following the God of Christianity…not sure what other belief systems you have in mind… Zoroastrianism perhaps…

The southern Baptist churches I used to attend in Texas think that Catholicism is Satan's creation and to stay within the T&C I won't mention what they think about Mormons. I appears that one of the mainstays of Christianity is to hate everyone that doesn't follow the brand of Christianity you chose. This thread, now 39 pages long affirms it. Now who exactly are the haters?

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Joecroft

That’s a pretty unique Christian view…as most Christians don’t accept that Muslim’s or even Jews are following the God of Christianity…not sure what other belief systems you have in mind… Zoroastrianism perhaps…

The southern Baptist churches I used to attend in Texas think that Catholicism is Satan's creation and to stay within the T&C I won't mention what they think about Mormons. I appears that one of the mainstays of Christianity is to hate everyone that doesn't follow the brand of Christianity you chose. This thread, now 39 pages long affirms it. Now who exactly are the haters?

There's a whole depopulation agenda described in the chapter of revelations and it's quite unsettling to think the "great reset" of theology is idolized among particular cults. Literal tens of millions of lives are potentially at risk if prophecy is reliable.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Joecroft

That’s a pretty unique Christian view…as most Christians don’t accept that Muslim’s or even Jews are following the God of Christianity…not sure what other belief systems you have in mind… Zoroastrianism perhaps…

It appears that one of the mainstays of Christianity is to hate everyone that doesn't follow the brand of Christianity you chose. This thread, now 39 pages long affirms it. Now who exactly are the haters?

Last I checked, there was 3000 different Christian sects.

Choices, choices.

a reply to: GoShredAK

True atheist is probably rare because we all came from the creator and that knowledge is built into our DNA....

It is what it is......I wish some of you could at least admit that..

I admit 😊
I don't believe in God but I believe in some creator some force which make all universe and us humans, I think that atheist did not angry on God but angry on fanatic religious people, some of them is just hard to talk to and that can be very annoying.

a reply to: Lora73

Because they have an agenda. It's not enough to have a relationship with this ephemeral mentor character, it has to be a challenge and a battle of intellectual sparring to prove how amazing you are and how dumb everyone else is. "You" know who you are. Why does your lifestyle have to be idolized? Why does your coping device have to be elevated above what everyone else does to sustain peace of mind? It's in the OP every time, "only Jesus can save you" Don't tell me where or how I find self realization. Why can't you be more supportive outside your echo chamber of self righteousness. It's not a question, it's a recommendation about how to be less cultist and more spiritual. I believe strongly in spirituality but I also believe in propaganda and exploitation.

a reply to: olaru12

Originally posted by olaru12
The southern Baptist churches I used to attend in Texas think that Catholicism is Satan's creation and to stay within the T&C I won't mention what they think about Mormons. I appears that one of the mainstays of Christianity is to hate everyone that doesn't follow the brand of Christianity you chose. This thread, now 39 pages long affirms it. Now who exactly are the haters?

Good point…

In regards to different Christian denominations…you’ll often here the argument about there being 1 body (church) with different parts (denominations)…but in my experience…the reality is very much different…

Not sure if it’s always hatred in most cases…but there’s clearly devisions there…for sure…


- JC

originally posted by: Lora73
a reply to: GoShredAK

True atheist is probably rare because we all came from the creator and that knowledge is built into our DNA....

It is what it is......I wish some of you could at least admit that..

I admit 😊
I don't believe in God but I believe in some creator some force which make all universe and us humans, I think that atheist did not angry on God but angry on fanatic religious people, some of them is just hard to talk to and that can be very annoying.

Atheist simply means "Lack of belief in a God/Deity"

It does not mean anything else.

Each person who lacks belief in a God -- has their own individual thoughts and philosophy. Basically -- their own atheistic philosophy.

I too believe in energy intelligence -- not necessarily one main one. I consider myself atheist.

originally posted by: GoShredAK
It is what it is......I wish some of you could at least admit that..

Why do you need this?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

God is not afraid to be harsh and he is not intimidated by your attempts to poke holes and point out what you perceive as contradictions...........our little brains and limited time here to navigate all the bs leaves us very ignorant to the true nature of things........for a person on the internet to claim the Bible is bs over some scripture they didn't understand our of context......or some story from the OT that they don't like........

The Bible wasn't meant to be read like any other self help book........the deeper meanings come to those seeking God and putting diligence into their studies, constantly fortifying thier Spirit with prayer and time with God.........it takes a hunger to seek wisdom....which when God sees it is genuine.....he rewards with knowledge and wisdom........

He says my people perish from a lack of knowledge......makes a lot of sense......

Nobody can poke holes in the Bible and there are NO contradictions...........it takes the most simple minded and bias approach and it's very easy to use a piece of scripture without understanding and out of context to give the impression of a contradiction....

It's low hanging fruit and the people doing this think they are smart but they look very foolish to someone who actually seeks the Lord.....

The Bible is ancient words with enternal truths imbedded within and these truths cannot be disputed......

In order to understand the Bible deeper you must study and begin to understand the OT.........you will see Jesus all throughout in many different hidden ways.....the Bible is infinitely more complex than any enthusiastic atheist could even begin to understand........

The OT deciphers the New Testament, and vice versa, and there are meanings within meanings........every hole of contradiction people try to use is explained and the Living Word will always triumph.....

You actually have to give a #$&@ about God and thirst for that living water......and be humble enough to pray........

We're all too cool for that nowadays but looking around at this world, maybe somebody give it a try.....

Also we gotta remember....God's ways are not our ways........

We can't comprehend his process nor should we.....I just take comfort in trusting my creator......

Even in trials because trials are blessings of you take them on and reach the other side....