Why are atheist so angry with God?

a reply to: Proto88

Evil is unfortunate but necessary, purely because without the freedom to choose a good or evil path, we would be automatons, and even if we therefore did everything 'right' all the time, there would be no freedom, no love, no enjoyment of life.

Epicurus was intelligent, but he wasn't wise.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Proto88

Evil is unfortunate but necessary, purely because without the freedom to choose a good or evil path, we would be automatons, and even if we therefore did everything 'right' all the time, there would be no freedom, no love, no enjoyment of life.

Epicurus was intelligent, but he wasn't wise.

"Evil is necessary
Knowledge is scripted
Reality is privatized"

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: neoholographic

Yes God exists. We also live on after death as pure energy. When you need something Spiritually you can pray for help but physically on earth we are still on our own so when attacked physically one must fight back physically as spiritual is separate from the physical.

Ephesians 6:12

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places"

Also the Atheist, the blasphemer of the Holy Spirit is an already defeated foe.

Their words of self righteousness will be their downfall...

a reply to: GoShredAK

Thanks.

originally posted by: YouSir

a reply to: AcrobaticDreams


Ummm…being better is pretty easy…especially when the progs set such a low bar…

I mean really…who plays limbo when the bar is laying on the ground…


Why on earth do you think spirituality has anything to do with being better than anyone else…?

It’s not about being better than…it’s about maturing into a balanced perspective in which you realize that all are equal…and just as worthy as you are…

YouSir

My post didn’t mention ‘being better than’ in it. You misread. However, if someone follows your definition of spirituality-it’d at least be better than most peoples.

a reply to: neoholographic

Of course they dont! Atheists...dont BELIEVE in GOD. Sorry. (your thread, your started!)

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Yes, it's our duty to talk about God's Love and profound Grace. But you know who talked about hell and the consequences of sin more than anyone? Jesus.

It's not black and white, it's the Bible. You said:

You are delineating everything too much in black or white. The world is shades of grey, and only contact with the Lord can lift us out of that smudgy darkness. But haranguing people who don't believe is no way to go about building the Kingdom of God.

Have you ever read about the second death? Have you ever read about the carnal mind being at enmity with God?

You're doing exactly what the Bible predicts:

4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

What you're doing is shameful.

You claim to be a Christian but your goal seems to be to basically say do as thou wilt. Be an atheist, don't believe in God, there's no judgment. Here's what the Bible says about the second death:

Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The Bible tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

What you're saying is that's not true. You can do as you please. Tell me exactly what I said was wrong based on scripture.

I think it's shameful that all sides of the Word are not taught.

Wrath will come because of sin but God so loved the world He gave us His Only Begotten Son.

You said:

You must never turn the 'angry, judgmental' interpretation of God against normal, decent people

What are normal, decent people?

The Bible tells us our works are as filthy rags.

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Jesus asked, who is good?

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Your false doctrine actually allows me to illustrate the reason why we need Jesus.

It's not about good works. You can't decent your way into Heaven. Jesus came to earth into flesh to fulfill the law. He came to do what no human could do because of sin.

So telling people that all they need to do is be decent is a lie and it's false.

It's not about human effort. That's satanic. That's the tower of Babel and mystery Babylon. We need the Grace of God through Jesus Christ.

You're telling people a lie and that's shamefull.

Of course he has.

You can see it with his words.

a reply to: Waterglass

a reply to: neoholographic

Looks to me like you're the one who is angry, not us.

Is this the coolaid drinkers attempt at a homophobic angle towards others who don't want the coolaid?
Take your insane brainwashing elsewhere.
Nobody is impressed by your ability to fall into man made control schemes.
Least of all, you trying to talk down to those who aren't interested.
If there is a god, he won't like what you did here today.
I recommend going to church and confessing your sins of today.
Probably sooner, rather than later.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Yet, it is said the key to wisdom is to admit "I don't know."

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: neoholographic

Looks to me like you're the one who is angry, not us.

Angry at what?

I pray for atheist and that they come to God through Jesus Christ.

But yes, I hate sin like God hates sin and I'm not going to sugar coat things to please itching ears. The Bible says:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

It doesn't say no man cometh unto the Father unless his works are decent.

That's the lie Flyintheoinment is telling itching ears.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Because cult ideology is transparently smug self serving shlock. There's nothing wise, profound or noble in any comment I've ever read from you. I disdain your so called spiritual influences because you don't have any.

If "God" wants to know what I think and why, s/he knows where to find me. That dialogue is likely above your pay grade.

Are you available for kids parties?

a reply to: GoShredAK

Exactly:

Ephesians 6:12 "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places"

This goes to the passage I quoted in the OP:

Romans 1:20 “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”

originally posted by: neoholographic

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: neoholographic

Looks to me like you're the one who is angry, not us.

Angry at what?

I pray for atheist and that they come to God through Jesus Christ.

But yes, I hate sin like God hates sin and I'm not going to sugar coat things to please itching ears. The Bible says:

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

It doesn't say no man cometh unto the Father unless his works are decent.

That's the lie Flyintheoinment is telling itching ears.

There's no place in spirituality for an emotion like hate. That's the path to the dark side.

originally posted by: neoholographic
Angry at what?

That's the lie Flyintheoinment is telling itching ears.

Seems like you might be at least a bit upset with fellow christians not lock-stepping with you.

Also, it might be that your prayers are not being answered because we just don't want to be part of your religion.

a reply to: daskakik

You said:

Seems like you might be at least a bit upset with fellow christians not lock-stepping with you.

I'm not upset at all. I pray for those that haven't accepted Christ Jesus.

Flyintheoinment is saying your works is all that you need and that's just a lie.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the Life.

If I'm wrong, show me in scripture where I'm wrong.

a reply to: neoholographic
Oh, so you get to tell us how you feel but we can't say how we feel? We just have to accept that we are angry at someone we don't believe exists?

The third post in the thread said it quite succinctly: "They’re not angry at God. They’re angry with people like you."

a reply to: daskakik

You said:

The third post in the thread said it quite succinctly: "They’re not angry at God. They’re angry with people like you."

If they're just angry at people like me, why do they attack God who they say doesn't exist? I have been in debates with atheist for years and they talk about God and Christ in horrible ways yet they say God doesn't exist and until recently they tried to claim Jesus is a myth.

Virtually all scholars of antiquity accept that Jesus was a historical figure, and attempts to deny his historicity have been consistently rejected by the scholarly consensus as a fringe theory.[5][6][7][8][9]

Virtually all scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed.[6][7][30]

Contemporary scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and biblical scholars and classical historians view the theories of his nonexistence as effectively refuted.[6][8][47][48][49]

Michael Grant (a classicist and historian) states that "In recent years, no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus, or at any rate very few have, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary."[8] Richard A. Burridge states, "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church's imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that anymore."[47][35]: 24–26

en.wikipedia.org...

Some people are so threatened by the Powerful Message of Jesus, they can't accept that he even existed.

a reply to: neoholographic

Even this topic is a pretty self evident example of why certain audiences are put off by your approach. You asked for feedback and when that feedback arrives you turn it into a diatribe about why you're so clever and deserving. You're not educating anyone, you're just baiting the forum and stroking your pseudo spiritual ego.