I guess we get to see if they are real and care .

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

The life force, it is not so much the soul as the aura of living being's.



Of course many ancient traditions including those of the ancient esoteric traditions of India (Which also remember ancient flying craft and something that sounds like a nuclear war, the word Ego used in that is a place holder for a presumably lost word rather than THE Ego and suggests a psychic or telekinetic element to there ancient flight as well as technological) already knew of this.

Though some ancient traditions ascribe Soul or Spirit to everything since everything is really just energy including stones and metal in general living being's and creatures have far more intricate energy pattern's.

So a machine in would have likely a very stone line aura not that of a living being but if it's is complex enough, small enough and pushes energy's correctly it may act as an interface just like a body, while you liken the brain to a computer I would say it is many levels more complex even than a quantum computer and far more advanced than anything we have yet been able to create, for me it is more like an interface keyed to one soul, your OWN soul but in some instances other being may latch onto and drain from your body and perhaps even from your soul, these are parasitic entity's which we mostly refer to as demonic and they can cause illness as well as mental affects, there may however be also benign or symbiotic entity's that could be beneficial though that is an entire ecology we are blind too on this plane.

Some mystics such as shaman use substances to see into the spirit world, we regard them as hallucinatory affects but another possible explanation is them disrupting the resonance between the brain/nervous system and the spirit self allowing it to partially see into that other (or many other) realm.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

the purple circle above Putin is obviously photo-shopped.

Why would you assume some other portion of the picutre is not?

a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't think we are in much of a position to say what is actual and possible in terms of ET life forms. Judging from the Myths, however, the concept of "immortality" was not innate in our galaxy, at least not in the beginning. The secret to immortality had to be discovered. Knowledge can assume a type of immortality, but how does the essence of a being become immortal? Or, do we make the idea of a soul more complicated than it really is? Is the soul merely the illusion of a living entity being more than the sum of its parts? Anyway, a form of immortality emerged and replaced more primitive embodiments of intelligence. Is that fair enough? And, did that process continue until intelligence had become far, far removed from its origins? Could humanity simply be an expression of nostalgia on the part of ET? Can there really ever be a "going back" once intelligence advances beyond some "event horizon"? Wouldn't that be tantamount to suicide? Or, is it the equivalent of "live free or die"? The least we can say is that the advancement of intelligent life in the galaxy has not been a pretty one, but a very, very messy and at times absolutely brutal one. Do we continue participating in that process, wittingly or not? Life is mercifully short on Earth and hope springs eternal in youth. The will to live exists in everything that is alive, as best as I can tell. It doesn't seem too terribly difficult to mimic that in an intelligent machine, and of course it could be amplified even more than is even natural. If it can happen, it probably has happened (lol).

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Possibly Russian special forces MASKED so you can't see his face as that would allow his identity to be found out and that could then pose a security breach leaving the protector of there leaders open to outside influence.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I was resaerching 'kirlian photography' when most
people on ATS were in diapers.

I know exactly what kirlian photography is, and
it's nothing mystical, shows nothing mystical.

And, I know what 'mystical' is too.

So I'm not saying there isn't something very
interesting which exists,

that I avoid talking about.

But most things that people latch onto
to prove the 'great mystery' are not
legitimate.

Let's call that my educated, first-hand experienced
observation.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

the purple circle above Putin is obviously photo-shopped.

Why would you assume some other portion of the picutre is not?

My elements added are the 3 gray parasitic Aliens, the Portal on the wall, and the red flashing Obey on the flat panel TV/ monitor hanging on the wall……nothing more. Certainly not the figure at the other end of the conference table.

Update….just now within the last few minutes…the Strange Figure is there…



Strange indeed

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a reply to: CharlesNPope

Or, do we make the idea of a soul more complicated than it really is

This.

Information and information stores.

Who owns them?

Just becuase we can access one, does that make it 'ours'.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

If we ever had a beer, I'd tell you about what 'gray parasitic
aliens' really are, and what I encountered in 1981, 6 years
before "Communion" was published.

But the question stands..

1) how do you know the pixels you are referring to are not
just fuzzy and if it was cleared up, it wouldn't be obvious
that it wasn't an 'alien' but a guy in a bee suit, to refer to
another silly UFO case.

2) that the original picure wasn't doctored, before you
doctored it?

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

If we ever had a beer, I'd tell you about what 'gray parasitic
aliens' really are, and what I encountered in 1981, 6 years
before "Communion" was published.

But the question stands..

1) how do you know the pixels you are referring to are not
just fuzzy and if it was cleared up, it wouldn't be obvious
that it wasn't an 'alien' but a guy in a bee suit, to refer to
another silly UFO case.

2) that the original picure wasn't doctored, before you
doctored it?

Doctored before I did?

The other people sitting close to the figure standing look human enough. If the figure standing was distorted….I would expect those sitting so close, would also be distorted.

Don’t know…..perhaps it’s a stock photo to be found elsewhere to verify and compare.



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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

It's a person behind a camera on a tripod on the table.



Edited to add a view without the person.

a reply to: ArMaP

I don’t buy it…..there are to many extending protrusions from the camera sticking out well beyond …if the figure was standing behind it….

Not convinced yet

Update! Yeah…the figure is behind the camera…..I see the tripod in the lower half

Good……you solved what appeared strange to me 🥂Thx!

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Looks like the ghost of one of the Marx brothers to me (lol). Maybe Putin was staging the Russian version of Hamlet or Macbeth (haha).

The aliens allegedly witnessed here on Earth do not necessarily look like those back at the "home office".

The "ant" beings are "agents/androids" of the original Ursa Minor ("Judah") race, or whatever they have become today.

The "greys" are "agents/androids" of the original Draco ("Levi") race, or whatever they have become today.

The "nordics" are agents/androids" of the original Bootes/Arcturus ("Joseph") race, or whatever they have become today.

There are many other ET "races" and "mixed races" out there. How closely they all comply with "galactic memos" is debatable. Ant and Grey aliens are sometimes witnessed together on the same craft. This points to some type of hierarchy and/or alliance, forced or otherwise. Everything we know is likely an over-simplification of ET reality.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Once you believe in 'UFOs', then whomever can control the UFO
narrtive can control you.

Once you believe in 'souls' then whomever can control the
religous narrative can control you (in this case there is
something there, but nothing that most people would
want to be true).. but the principle is still solid.

There's a hundred such examples..

There is nothing more dangerous than belief.

It is what hides reality from us.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Once you believe in 'UFOs', then whomever can control the UFO
narrtive can control you.

Once you believe in 'souls' then whomever can control the
religous narrative can control you (in this case there is
something there, but nothing that most people would
want to be true).. but the principle is still solid.

There's a hundred such examples..

There is nothing more dangerous than belief.

It is what hides reality from us.

Kev

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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Well, burying my head in the sand is one coping/blunting mechanism. I'm not quite there yet, but it is appealing right now. Ignorance is bliss ... until it isn't.

originally posted by: CharlesNPope
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Well, burying my head in the sand is one coping/blunting mechanism. I'm not quite there yet, but it is appealing right now. Ignorance is bliss ... until it isn't.

you are more honest than most, so I like you.

I'm not saying there is not something to discover by looking
into mythology --- there is --- but with mythology, the
'sexy answer' is seldom the actual answer.

For example the 7 gods.. what's behind that is rather
amusing and enlightening.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
There is nothing more dangerous than belief.

It depends on how much you believe.

In my case, for example, I believe that there are unidentified objects that are seen flying in some occasions.
I do not believe they are occupied/controlled by extraterrestrial beings because I have never seen any evidence of the existence of extraterrestrial beings, although I believe in the possibility of their existence.

Also, although not my case, people can have beliefs and not considering one specific person/organisation/whatever as the only source of true information about their specific beliefs, so that control situation never arises.

Said in other words, people can have beliefs and use their brain at the same time, avoiding being fooled by people trying to control them.

a reply to: ArMaP

I don't disagree.

A very nuanced view.

I mean, I too have beliefs, all being tested of course..
but some are unfalsifiable, so I tend to keep those
to myself, and none of my beliefs (theories really)
cause me to go coo coo for cocoa puffs.. rather
they ground me. To me, that's a sign of a non-toxic
belief'.

Maybe I should have said "Mostly harmless"
(humor).

Beliefs are OFTEN toxic and destructive.

I mean, literally billions of people think that
people who don't share their nearly identical
belief in relgion are 'unsaved' and thus,
"part of the problem". De-humanized really..
Hitler did that too... dehumanized demographic
groups that had hurt his feelings.. then controlling
and killing them was ever so much easier.

Of course atheistic-political beliefs CAN be just
as deadly.. plenty of belief blame to go around.

Belief is often dangerous stuff... not always..

I enjoyed your response.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Mythology is mostly personified Cosmology. I don't see any obvious contradiction with the modern UFO phenomenon. There hasn't been much in the way of a "UFO Narrative" until very recently. We are still in the phase of "Post Non-Disclosure". The DoD is still playing dumb in my opinion. Nothing new there. And if ET doesn't want to make their own disclosure, then all we can do is speculate as to why. They're not ready. We're not ready. We don't matter. They don't care. They want us to want them. We want them to want us. It was a bad breakup and now they're just someone we used to know. Kind of like every other relationship (lol).

a reply to: CharlesNPope

Mythology is mostly personified Cosmology.

My first mentor when i was young, was not only a Kundalini
yoga SME (of sorts) but a published mythologist.

I don't outright disagree with your statement about
mythology, but a lot of mythology came from early
interactions with nature, which over time were
distorted, pretty rapidly.

For example, the snake was said to be wise, as it
slithered close to the Earth.. and was said to
be a symbol of immortality, because it shed its
skin (renewal).

But snakes are neither wise nor immortal.. yet
to this day we have crazy mythology about them.
(It is even part of UFOlogy.)

Yet.. 'snakes' hit us in our 'mythological center'
(about 10 pages to describe that with justice)
so it bears keeping in mind the power of that
mythological center.. it's mostly used to
cause harm these days.

Your comments about ET are pretty hilarious.

Now, if you examine the issue, all these
'ET theories' about how they creted humans
or what not.. are all rehashings of distorted
mythology, that had NOTHING to do with
biological aliens.

There's this tendency to call 'BS' on other
people's 'fantastical theories' but to give
your own a pass.

Just thought I'd mention that.

So nice communicating with you.

Kev