Russia Ukraine Update Thread

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Halfswede

UN troops are not NATO

The point was never about NATO, it was about the term 'peacekeeper' that was being mocked, so the UN was brought into the discussion.

edit: I am just explaining their original response and why that term has an ironic historical context outside of Russia.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

Lets see NATO does NOT have a standing army so try again

I didn’t say they did.

I was addressing the post that we are discussing that said

“Same goes for NATO/UN "peacekeepers", they rape, pillage and murder innocents on a grand scale wherever they put their boots on the ground. “

To which you and Carpy said there is no proof.

I also said that NATO works with the UN.

Clearly the intent is to just pretend a bunch of evidence of UN peacekeeper wrongdoing wasn't presented rather than someone admit they are ill-informed.

a reply to: Halfswede

Then people should not lie and try and use UN and NATO interchangeably

the post that was made did just that

a reply to: NorthOfStuff

with regards to NATO there is no evfdence

Doesn't matter what rubbish the media and some governments are spinning, the whole thing is total bollocks. It's all the usual suspects, the gun-runners, the bankers, the corporate interests looking to asset strip as many taxpaying plebs as they can and see the blood flow.

Zelensky is key and his press release, telling those that foment war to stop as his country is losing billions$ every day, has been redacted from all mainstream media outlets.

It's an insider trader's wet dream and the 'world leaders' and media are the puppet master's playthings.

Students in the eastern city of Kharkiv are learning about bulletproof vests and explosives as well as practising evacuation drills and first aid as Ukraine prepares for a possible big assault by the Russian military.

The city, which is under Ukrainian government control, is home to tank, aircraft and tractor factories and lies 40 km (25 miles) from the Russian border.

It has been identified by President Volodymyr Zelenskiy as a possible Russian target, though his spokesman said he was speaking hypothetically.

Russia has denied it plans to invade Ukraine but the authorities are taking no chances, especially with the stakes now higher after Moscow's recognition of two separatist regions in the former Soviet republic's east.

Students try bulletproof vests and escape drills in east Ukraine

These types of drills remind me of the duck and cover drills during Cold War I. Are we heading down this road again?

Poland’s government approved a new defense bill that would vastly increase the country’s military spending and the size of its army, in what officials described as a direct response to Russia’s aggression against Ukraine.

The bill, tentatively slated to reach parliament next week, would allow the funding and legal instruments necessary for “the radical expansion of our army,” said Poland Deputy Prime Minister Jarosław Kaczyński, who is also the head of the ruling Law and Justice party.

Mr. Kaczyński first introduced the proposal last year, saying Poland should roughly double its troop levels to as much as 300,000 personnel, which would make it one of the largest armies in Europe. Ukraine’s crisis has accelerated those plans, officials said.

“Poland must have an armed force adequate to the situation it is in today,” he told reporters. “That means forces that will be able to counter an attack and that will be strong enough to prevent that attack from happening.”

Poland isn’t the only Russia-bordering member of the European Union looking to quickly ramp up the size of its army in response to the Ukraine crisis. Latvia is considering three weeks of mandatory military service for young adults, an opening that it hopes would increase recruitment, said the country's defense minister, Artis Pabriks.

Poland Backs Large Increase in Military Spending

With this and other recent developments, is Cold War 2.0 back on?

Again, with Afghanistan gone there has to be a new way to shuffle money and why not with people who your family already has ties to?

Live map- Ukraine with updates

Live map Ukraine

a reply to: Xcathdra

Thanks for posting. This aggregation of stories viewed by location on a map is very helpful. Are there any that stood out to you the most?

FoxNews is delighted to report that their hero (for this "crisis") is sending a lot of weapons to Ukraine, just because there's so much "fear" and "bracing for the worst" in the air.

War Mongering FoxNews's headline tonight: www.foxnews.com...

The network and Joe Biden really want a U.S. involved war against Russia, it seems.

Very dangerous!

a reply to: carewemust

The network and Joe Biden really want a U.S. involved war against Russia, it seems.

Anything to get away from having discussions on the inflation's, Economy,Mandates/passports.

originally posted by: majesticgent
a reply to: Xcathdra

Thanks for posting. This aggregation of stories viewed by location on a map is very helpful. Are there any that stood out to you the most?

What stood out to me was the fact they presented stories from both sides, including Russia / Belarus. What I do like is most of the news stories come with video, especially when they are stories about military movement/action.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: carewemust

The network and Joe Biden really want a U.S. involved war against Russia, it seems.

Anything to get away from having discussions on the inflation's, Economy,Mandates/passports.

Fox News loves to bash Biden on Inflation, Covid-19, Border-related crimes. But when it comes to describing how dangerous Vladimir Putin is, Fox News is in love with Joe Biden's hatred of the man. (I sense that Fox News executives have something they want keep hidden, and Putin threatens this secrecy.)

The question that needs to be known is whether Putin is really worried about NATO, and doesn’t realize all of this is about MIC business NOT really any threat of NATO invading Russia. They are satisfied with all the arms business 30 NATO countries provide them. All Putin has done is revive the moribund NATO.

NATO is not going to relinquish any of those past Soviet satellites that are now inside NATO. He can forget that. His only hope is to somehow make Ukraine nonaligned again.

NATO=BIG BUSINESS=ARMS SALES

‘Full-scale invasion’ of Ukraine ‘likely’ in 24 hours: Australia begins Russia sanctions

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has revealed a “full-scale invasion” of Ukraine is likely within 24 hours as he announces a burst of sanctions in response to Russia’s aggression.

“The invasion of Ukraine has already effectively begun,” Mr Morrison said on Wednesday.

“This invasion is unjustified, it’s unwarranted, it’s unprovoked and it’s unacceptable.

“Russia is at peak readiness to now complete a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and that is likely to occur within the next 24 hours.”

Mr Morrison said Australia always stands up to “bullies” and will be doing so with Russia alongside like-minded partners – revealing sanctions on Russian individuals along with Donetsk and Luhansk.

“The Australian government will immediately begin placing sanctions on Russian individuals in response to the aggression by Russia against Ukraine,” he said.

“We will also amend the Autonomous Sanctions Regulation of 2011 to extend existing sanctions that apply to Crimea and Sevastopol to the regions of Donetsk and Luhansk.

“These two actions will align us with key partners – the United States and the United Kingdom.”

If this is true, I wonder where he's getting this intelligence? Ukraine doesn't seem to be responding as if they're about to be invaded on a full-scale means. As I've read, they have only activated their reserves, but not the entire military.

all of the sanctions on Russia will affect you in your home country more than they will Russia

that is by design part of the reset

a reply to: peaceinoutz

Had the USSR treated those former parts of the USSR better than what they did maybe there would not be a mad dash to join NATO for protection.

Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and Belarus are perfect examples.

a reply to: majesticgent

I always noticed that America’s agenda is NOT the same as Ukraine’s.
Looking at this affair cynically informs America is delighted in what crazy-ass Putin is doing.
It looks like America is scaring Ukraine more than Russia.

Australia likely has the same information the US does.
Of course, they have their own intel as well.

Ukraine, this poor weak country with an ex-comedian as a leader is pitiful and one can only feel for those people caught between Russia and NATO.

Their policy is mainly it looks to me, wishful thinking.

Putin is a Hitlerian Bully.