AIDS Is Only Weeks Away For Some Tripple Vaxxt Brits

a reply to: TheRedneck

None of this proves anything though.

I know plenty of people triple vaccinated who haven’t caught the WuFlu, myself included.

I also know people who are fully vaxxed who did catch it and required hospitalization, this includes an 18 yr old.

I know plenty like yourself with no vax, no mask wearing who party and carry on like they did before and they haven’t caught the WuFlu.

Just as I know anti vaxxers and anti maskers who did catch it

Conclusion; neither of our posts proves anything one way or the other. Who knows what the secret formula is to evading it.

BTW I’m not getting another jab because I see from both our posts it’s a waste of time

originally posted by: violet
a reply to: TheRedneck

None of this proves anything though.

I know plenty of people triple vaccinated who haven’t caught the WuFlu, myself included.

I also know people who are fully vaxxed who did catch it and required hospitalization, this includes an 18 yr old.

I know plenty like yourself with no vax, no mask wearing who party and carry on like they did before and they haven’t caught the WuFlu.

Just as I know anti vaxxers and anti maskers who did catch it

Conclusion; neither of our posts proves anything one way or the other. Who knows what the secret formula is to evading it.

BTW I’m not getting another jab because I see from both our posts it’s a waste of time

Conclusion: the vaxx doesn't do sh#

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Links in my signature show that it is highly effective.

a reply to: fernalley

You conveniently clipped the part where I stated extremely clearly that I was talking about the UK, not the US. The CDC does not cover the UK.

The difference is quite important. It means that the group who are least likely to be vaxxed are also least likely to come forward and admit that they have covid, so there are going to be many hundreds of thousands of unvaxxed people who get covid but who aren't included on the official statistics.

Thus whatever you think the statistics show the actual answer is that even more unvaxxed people are sick than you think.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

The difference is quite important. It means that the group who are least likely to be vaxxed are also least likely to come forward and admit that they have covid

I’m aware of the data showing that minorities have lower vaccine take up, but can you show the data for minorities being less likely to come forward and admit they have covid, please. Or is that simply your opinion?

If the latter then it’s a little patronising to assume that because minorities don’t want to risk the vax, they would risk the safety of others by lying if they developed symptoms.

Or do you believe minorities to be immoral because they refuse the vax in greater numbers?

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

The difference is quite important. It means that the group who are least likely to be vaxxed are also least likely to come forward and admit that they have covid

I’m aware of the data showing that minorities have lower vaccine take up, but can you show the data for minorities being less likely to come forward and admit they have covid, please. Or is that simply your opinion?

If the latter then it’s a little patronising to assume that because minorities don’t want to risk the vax, they would risk the safety of others by lying if they developed symptoms.

Or do you believe minorities to be immoral because they refuse the vax in greater numbers?

You're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel aren't you. Could it be your transphobia causing this, or maybe your hatred of kittens?

Minorities in the UK have a lower reporting rate because 1 they're more likely to fear deportation if they get into the system, 2 there is a higher stigma for communicable diseases among minorities because of cultural hangups regarding hygiene, and 3 because they are more likely to be part of the gray economy they cannot readily self isolate without losing money as they don't get statutory sickness pay.

They're also more likely to believe misinformation, as anti vax sentiment is strong in many of the minority cultures that are abound in the UK. Particularly Pakistani and East Asian cultures.

If you didn't hate puppies so much maybe you would see it.

Here are some links

Link 1

link 2

These are UK specific and don't necessarily track across African American or Hispanic populations in the US, as the situation in Europe is somewhat different.


And while it isn't immoral not to get vaxxed, it is immoral to knowingly spread anti vax misinformation. Or do you hate our freedom so much that you can't see it?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
You're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel aren't you. Could it be your transphobia causing this…

??? What on earth has anythingI I’ve said got to do with transphobia? Please, let’s keep your personal issues out of this and stay on topic, hey…

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Minorities in the UK have a lower reporting rate…

The first link you gave there says this in the body of that very long text:

The results of the PHE data review suggest that people of Black, Asian and other minority ethnic groups may be more exposed to COVID-19, and therefore are more likely to be diagnosed.

Link 1

I think it’s fair to assume that ‘diagnosis’ isn’t the same thing as self-diagnosis with a self-testing kit. In which case they can’t be diagnosed unless they report. So minorities having higher rates of diagnosis runs counter to your argument that minorities report less..

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
…because 1 they're more likely to fear deportation if they get into the system

C’mon, you’re piling a lot of people into a small boat in order to support your theory. Illegals are a minuscule proportion of the minorities living in the U.K. and the the number of illegals with covid smaller still. Or are you suggesting that minorities and illegals are more or less synonymous?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
And while it isn't immoral not to get vaxxed, it is immoral to knowingly spread anti vax misinformation. Or do you hate our freedom so much that you can't see it?

So asking questions is spreading anti vax misinformation and hatred of freedom? Really? Surely the person attacking free speech by randomly and completely erroneously slandering someone as ‘transphobic’ because they question the official narrative is the true hater of freedom.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: DaRAGE

Once you take into account that the UK has extremely high vax rates, the numbers actually show that vaxed people are significantly less likely to get covid and less likely to die from it. As well as les likely to need critical care.

None of the data that they have show actually immunity levels, and it would be unethical to try to infer it.

Plus, the data is from the UK where most unvaxxed are minorities or illegals, people who are less likely to actually report that they have covid. So there may be tens of thousands of unvaxxed with covid flying under the radar.

Actually, whilst the UK does have extremely high vac rates, the UK data transposes that information that they have into “per 100,000 people” statistics. You can grab percentages from that type of data. It DOES show that percentage wise per 100,000 people unvaxxed vs triple vaxxed that the unvaxxed are leas likely to catch covid. It also shows that the triple vaxxed are leas likely to be hospitalised and die compared to the unvaxxed even with the higher chance of catching covid.

‘The Expose’ is trying to infer that the triple vaxxed actually catching covid more than the unvaxxed is due to a weakening of their natural immune system. It is inferred and no UKNHS data actually has data supporting that. They could actually be correct. But there are other possible reasons that the triple vaxxed might be catching covid more, such as different restrictions on movements in society compared to the unvaxxed which are more banned from social wvents in society compared to the triple vaxxed which means more social interaction which means more exposure to infected people which could account for the higher percentage of infection rates.

In essence ‘The Expose’’ have no proof to validate their claims.

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
You're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel aren't you. Could it be your transphobia causing this…

??? What on earth has anythingI I’ve said got to do with transphobia? Please, let’s keep your personal issues out of this and stay on topic, hey…

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
Minorities in the UK have a lower reporting rate…

The first link you gave there says this in the body of that very long text:

The results of the PHE data review suggest that people of Black, Asian and other minority ethnic groups may be more exposed to COVID-19, and therefore are more likely to be diagnosed.

Link 1

I think it’s fair to assume that ‘diagnosis’ isn’t the same thing as self-diagnosis with a self-testing kit. In which case they can’t be diagnosed unless they report. So minorities having higher rates of diagnosis runs counter to your argument that minorities report less..

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
…because 1 they're more likely to fear deportation if they get into the system

C’mon, you’re piling a lot of people into a small boat in order to support your theory. Illegals are a minuscule proportion of the minorities living in the U.K. and the the number of illegals with covid smaller still. Or are you suggesting that minorities and illegals are more or less synonymous?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
And while it isn't immoral not to get vaxxed, it is immoral to knowingly spread anti vax misinformation. Or do you hate our freedom so much that you can't see it?

So asking questions is spreading anti vax misinformation and hatred of freedom? Really? Surely the person attacking free speech by randomly and completely erroneously slandering someone as ‘transphobic’ because they question the official narrative is the true hater of freedom.

The sources that I linked to confirm what I'm saying, and if you want to call me a racist I think that it's more than fair that I call you out on your abuse of bears.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Sigh! If you say so

originally posted by: AaarghZombies


And while it isn't immoral not to get vaxxed, it is immoral to knowingly spread anti vax misinformation. Or do you hate our freedom so much that you can't see it?

Sure it is immoral to spread vax misinformation. Can I ask you your thoughts on Ivermectin? The queen of england being prescribed Ivermectin after the media keep dissing it? Calling it a horse dewormer? No politician or media covering it? After the leaks from the US DoD saying it was basically a cure from their April 2020 document that was leaked to the press? They mentioned two other drugs that would work well too…



I personally feel that the mass media lying and spreading misinformation and the government’s worldwide agreeing and preventing these extremely helpful medications to the entire population of countries worldwide is MUCH more harmful than one person on ATS spreading misinformation according to you. But misinformation is misinformation.

Can you please tell me exactly the misinformation spread by this guy at ATS?

I personally have no idea how race aka skin colour or trans people are involed in this topic of conversation.

Please explain it to me…

I also agree with McGinty. Illegals in the U.K are probably a small percentage.

Poorly thought out plan if you ask me.

So what, they give 80% of the country AIDS? You really think they are stupid enough to give the owners of 400,000,000 firearms nothing to lose? No place on Earth is safe from someone with a terminal illness and an axe to grind.

Who do you think would be the targets of this theoretical armed mass-ire under such circumstances?

They can't get us without taking themselves out too.

originally posted by: JBurns
Poorly thought out plan if you ask me.

So what, they give 80% of the country AIDS? You really think they are stupid enough to give the owners of 400,000,000 firearms nothing to lose? No place on Earth is safe from someone with a terminal illness and an axe to grind.

Who do you think would be the targets of this theoretical armed mass-ire under such circumstances?

They can't get us without taking themselves out too.

Careful there buddy... if you think to deep about it you start to see the glaring cracks in the Conspiracy.

Also, to bolster Aaaraghs few posts up stream, yes minorities are slow on the uptake and yes it is alot to do with misinformation and cultural fears (historical or other wise).

Here in NZ one of the lowest groups in terms of vaccines is the Pacific Island communities, their very religious, very community driven (ie they tend to not to anything unless the local 'leader' does it, which again ties back into the religious aspect alot of the time), they run big on shame and pride culturally which means if a member of their community got covid that person would keep it hidden rather than come out and say they had it to avoid social stigma. They also honestly had the belief going around that it was the white man coming to get em... but given the Dawn Raids event we had here in NZ back in the mid 70's its not to surprising such a belief could happen, but their were people in their community who believed and willing pushed that narrative, and those who remembered that event went with it and the young usually follow what the elders say in their culture.

Its taken around year, but their community leaders did managed to dispel the fears for the most part and get their communities vaxx rate up by a good margin, but even then they are still some of the least vaxxed groups in the country... and unfortunately due to cultural aspects are also some of the most vulnerable to covid in terms of potential deaths (diet, life style etc).

Its not racism to point out issues that actual exist... and every one Aaargh mentioned are real issues faced by pretty much all cultural minority groups in pretty much every country they are found in.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Links in my signature show that it is highly effective.

Highly effective at causing heart attacks and seizures. Highly effective at making Pfizer record profits. Highly effective at stealing our liberties.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Certainly ""highly effective"" at being your stock-in-trade also.

a reply to: JBurns

You don’t die of aids these days if you have the meds… Would be a neat leverage: ‘Own a gun? Then hand in your arms and you get your meds.’

It’s the kind of policy currently being tried a tested with certain freedoms & some jobs only allowed if you’re vaxxed.

Since some think this is a joke, fine.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Some might surmise its you who is the joke v1rtu0s0.

With your endless posting of spurious doom porn without any sorts of tangible evidence to back up your repetitive nonsense.

Just not of the funny ha'ha sorts.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Links in my signature show that it is highly effective.

Highly effective at causing heart attacks and seizures. Highly effective at making Pfizer record profits. Highly effective at stealing our liberties.

Fewer than 200 cases out of 3 billion isn't highly effective.