Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: putnam6

With 53 total deaths.

Maybe the freaking out is over nothing.

It would seem so unless they are gonna get slammed now since they have been under restrictions

New Zealand rolling out new COVID-19 restrictions

news.yahoo.com...

New Zealand is rolling out new COVID-19 restrictions as the country works to prevent an outbreak in cases driven by the omicron variant.

Just before midnight on Sunday, New Zealand will move into its Red setting, triggering a number of mitigation measures to tame the spread of the virus, according to a statement from the government.

Individuals in the country will be required to wear masks in public venues and on public transportation and physically distance when possible. Private gatherings in homes that follow vaccine pass regulations will be limited to 100 people, while meetings at other venues will be curbed at 100 people based on 1 meter of physician distancing.

Other gatherings, however, will be capped at 25 people.

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern emphasized on Thursday that the country would not impose strict lockdowns to stop the spread of the omicron variant.

She did, however, reveal on Sunday that she had canceled her wedding, according to Reuters.

edit on 1-2-2022 by putnam6 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Madviking
America absolutely had lockdowns in many locations

No we didn't. Not even one. And yes I listened to the Malone podcast. He's butthurt that he's not getting any credit for these vaccines. Saying he invented mRNA vaccines is like saying that Alexander Graham Bell invented the iPhone 12.

Yep.

I predicted it. No "true lockdown". The lockdowns failed so they weren't really lockdowns.

It's just like it's never really true socialism that fails and no one ever knows what it is.

They are already claiming that there "Is no vaccine mandate" because people have a choice and in some cases (not all), they can test. I think Justice Sotomayor claimed that Biden's mandates weren't mandates, because of the test. But, not all organizations allow test out. Let alone the cost, and multi hour waits in some locations for tests if you can get one. What a liar! But also, the cynical hacks claiming "it's a choice so these aren't mandates," while trying to fire people for not complying and restricting them from public spaces such as restaurants and entertainment. That's coercion, not free choice and informed consent.

Just watch, the "it was a choice not a mandate" will be used fully in the same way you are mentioning. "There was no mandate!!"

a reply to: carewemust

Those are some seriously low percentages. Damn.

&
That Joe Rogan joke was hilarious !!! I howled, you caught me off guard.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Gothmog

Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

You nwasted words :
Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact on COVID-19 .
COVID-19 doesn't care where you get it .
Just that you get it .

I hear you, my friend, pretty sure you were one of those saying from the get-go, lockdowns were gonna be a complete failure.

Of course, now the interesting part is gonna see which countries continue lockdowns, or if they all will be dropped

Hades , I called this scandemic in March of 2020 right here on good old ATS .
And stated it would die down by June of the same year , and it was declining .
That's before the fearmongering propaganda by the WHO and the CDC started in May .

a reply to: putnam6

The data is in, the mandates must end.

Mandate Freedom.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

Not complex and cheers by the way.

They did it all in the name of "public safety".

All I know is last time I was saying to myself, what the hell does this Bill the cat person know about a pandemic anyway?

but you were right as was Grambler, Occams, CWM, Gothmog among others.

so as my brother says to me often "well now what happens Nostradumass"?

looks to me like there is a slight shift in the wind, Justin is teetering a bit in Canada, Joe's dark winter never really materialized. Seeing reports from John Hopkins lockdowns did not lower the death rate, but it severely damaged the economy.

The stress applied needlessly to millions, hell to me that March 2020 seems like 5 years ago now.

Are they gonna double and triple down hard or are they gonna cut their losses?

If lockdowns had no effects or little impact then these passports have zero impact. When considering you had a cruise ship fully tested positive majority vaxed.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Asymptomatic infections. Being infectious before symptoms. America never had lockdowns? That's odd why did all the stores and restaurants close?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: LordAhriman

Asymptomatic infections. Being infectious before symptoms. America never had lockdowns? That's odd why did all the stores and restaurants close?

Not being able to go to Applebee's is not a lockdown. Walmart was packed to capacity every single day.

originally posted by: putnam6
just kidding it was a report done by John Hopkins University

ABBA just announced they are pulling their music from iHeartRadio over this. As for the report itself, no duh.

If they could combine this with a report on the economic fall out and then post it to the heartless and callous threads me and my sock DB did in March/April 2020 that would be helpful.

Libertarian economist who has consistently opposed lockdown picks 24 studies out of over 18,000 done and reaches conclusion that he was right all along.

Shocked I am!!!!!

a reply to: putnam6

I read the paper this morning. It's an interesting meta-analysis from a team of economists.

The fly in the ointment if, as usual, the assumptions in the modelling.

It also doesn't take into account the condition of the social contract in places like Sweden and the local peculiarities of lockdowns eg again in Sweden (Before you say Sweden didn't lock down at all, go and check).

An interesting contribution but neither conclusive nor definitive.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Nailed it.

Of course, there is some value in the paper - it's several degrees of magnitude more significant than the Great Barr Declaration - but it's not the bottom line and full stop.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: putnam6

Not complex and cheers by the way.

They did it all in the name of "public safety".

All I know is last time I was saying to myself, what the hell does this Bill the cat person know about a pandemic anyway?

but you were right as was Grambler, Occams, CWM, Gothmog among others.

so as my brother says to me often "well now what happens Nostradumass"?

looks to me like there is a slight shift in the wind, Justin is teetering a bit in Canada, Joe's dark winter never really materialized. Seeing reports from John Hopkins lockdowns did not lower the death rate, but it severely damaged the economy.

The stress applied needlessly to millions, hell to me that March 2020 seems like 5 years ago now.

Are they gonna double and triple down hard or are they gonna cut their losses?

What will happen is that they will double, then triple down, then act as if our freedoms and rights are theirs to give and grant us limited freedoms.

Our societies have become too conditioned to obey for them to do anything else.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Our societies have become too conditioned to obey for them to do anything else.

Shut up, before I weld you into your log cabin you wacko.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DBCowboy
Our societies have become too conditioned to obey for them to do anything else.

Shut up, before I weld you into your log cabin you wacko.

I wore a mask while typing that post so I think I'm okay.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
I wore a mask while typing that post so I think I'm okay.

Being that it was a Harley Quinn mask it really doesn't count.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
a reply to: putnam6

Any study that says you can catch and spread a virus while you're at home, by yourself, is wrong.

Good thing the study - that you obviously didn't bother to read, all you did was trigger-react to the words 'Joe Rogan' - didn't say that.

Now, maybe address what the study actually said?

I won't hold my breath though, you never provide rational responses, only knee-jerk reeeeeeeeeeeees...

For the pro lockdown folks a question,since the virus is in the animal kingdom and appears to be able to bounce back and forth, what has the lockdowns accomplished beyond wrecking economies and damaging public health?

(Virus was found in white tail deer over a year ago)