Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

The title says it all, lockdown did absolutely no good according to Joe Rogan...

just kidding it was a report done by John Hopkins University

In a creepy Joe Biden whisper...that's what quite a few ATS members were touting was gonna happen less than a month into this mess.

I wonder how still locked down Australia feels about this? or Canada for that matter, after all this is science and math.

While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument.

sites.krieger.jhu.edu...

Covid-19 Lockdowns caused more SUICIDE Deaths of young people than the Covid-19 disease did.

Tragic Tragic Fact: www.aier.org...

We're going to soon learn that Covid-19 VACCINES caused more Deaths of young people than the Covid-19 disease did.

There are high-ranking people alive today who will PAY DEARLY for what they helped to create, unleash, and perpetuate on society.

Yea and they all want to ignore the deaths form suicide, people not getting cancer treatments they need, and other assorted surgeries that were deemed not essential if they were diagnosed on the wrong side of an arbitrary date.

Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

You nwasted words :
Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact on COVID-19 .
COVID-19 doesn't care where you get it .
Just that you get it .

a reply to: putnam6

I've been saying this since day 1.

originally posted by: Gothmog

Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19

You nwasted words :
Lockdowns in U.S. Europe had little impact on COVID-19 .
COVID-19 doesn't care where you get it .
Just that you get it .

I hear you, my friend, pretty sure you were one of those saying from the get-go, lockdowns were gonna be a complete failure.

Of course, now the interesting part is gonna see which countries continue lockdowns, or if they all will be dropped

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: putnam6

I've been saying this since day 1.

You definitely were I remember me disagreeing with you. I was saying it will be for a couple of weeks, a month at the most.

I think I called you a lying dog-faced pony soldier, LOL good times ....

a reply to: putnam6

You know what they usual suspects will say don't you?

They'll say it's because we all ignored the lockdowns and didn't stay home, so there never was a "true lockdown". It's just like socialism is never real socialism when it fails.

Makes total sense. If you're infected with something that spreads through your breath, and you stay home and come into contact with nobody, EVERYONE will get it! If you go out maskless and yell in a Walmart door greeter's face, no virus is spread.

This is why I listen to podcasts for medical information!

And America has never had any sort of lockdown so we can't use our data. How did New Zealand do? They actually lock down when there's a single case.

Let's be clear, the conclusion wasn't just "little", but "little to no public health effects"

a reply to: LordAhriman

You are describing personal quarantine where you stay home if you are sick ... you know ... that thing we've all been told to do if we get sick forever, long before there was a COVID.

Lockdown is completely different. That was the attempted forcible quarantine of healthy people with the idea that if you kept every human being apart, the virus wouldn't be able to spread at all.

It didn't work. And if you point to islands like New Zealand as your model, you're forgetting that something small, contained, and completely walled off by the ocean on all sides is already naturally locked down.

Everything we said about lockdowns, masks, the 10-foot fallacy, and many other things, are being proven accurate, 1 at a time. With no apology from any of these authorities who were wrong.

I still get banned here on ATS for a few days, whenever I mention how I cured myself of Covid-19 in 48 hours back in Feb 2021.

There are some Covid-19 beliefs that will last decades, just like flat-earth theories.

It was planned to fail by design. So it was a success by their definition.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: LordAhriman

You are describing personal quarantine where you stay home if you are sick ... you know ... that thing we've all been told to do if we get sick forever, long before there was a COVID.

Lockdown is completely different. That was the attempted forcible quarantine of healthy people with the idea that if you kept every human being apart, the virus wouldn't be able to spread at all.

It didn't work. And if you point to islands like New Zealand as your model, you're forgetting that something small, contained, and completely walled off by the ocean on all sides is already naturally locked down.

Even with flus and colds that we're familiar with, you're spreading it before symptoms kick in. That's always been a thing. That's why households generally get sick at the same time.

It doesn't matter how small or isolated New Zealand is, they said "we have a case in this town. Stay home" and nobody else got it. They pretty much deal with a case at a time.

a reply to: putnam6

True , and in Actuality , Lockdowns Increase Mortality Rates due to other Health Problems . The People behind these Lockdowns are Far Removed from Caring about the Publics Health . It's All about Absolute Power over Others ........

originally posted by: LordAhriman
Makes total sense. If you're infected with something that spreads through your breath, and you stay home and come into contact with nobody, EVERYONE will get it! If you go out maskless and yell in a Walmart door greeter's face, no virus is spread.

This is why I listen to podcasts for medical information!

And America has never had any sort of lockdown so we can't use our data. How did New Zealand do? They actually lock down when there's a single case.

You did see it wasn't from Joe Rogan I SAID I WAS KIDDING don't tell me you saw JOE ROGAN and got all triggered, it's a study done by John Hopkins. like a real extensive study from data collected in the US and Europe.

a reply to: putnam6

It's not just that, the lockdowns caused up to 150 million new people to be thrust into extreme poverty globally, due to the economic destruction. When I mean extreme poverty I mean starvation risk, not low income in the US sense. It put additional pressure on the millions of people already in extreme poverty. This alone, will likely kill more over the next few years than any saved from Covid policies. When we see that mask and lockdown policies had no effect, then this only makes this impact worse.

I knew this because I have a background in international development. Politicians and leaders should know this impact too. The World Bank did. I was sitting there knowing this and trying to tell people this and literally NO ONE was discussing this beyond a few international organizations:

www.worldbank.org...

By "covid" they really mean the policies, lol.

WASHINGTON, Oct. 7, 2020 — Global extreme poverty is expected to rise in 2020 for the first time in over 20 years as the disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic compounds the forces of conflict and climate change, which were already slowing poverty reduction progress, the World Bank said today.

The COVID-19 pandemic is estimated to push an additional 88 million to 115 million people into extreme poverty this year, with the total rising to as many as 150 million by 2021, depending on the severity of the economic contraction. Extreme poverty, defined as living on less than $1.90 a day, is likely to affect between 9.1% and 9.4% of the world’s population in 2020, according to the biennial Poverty and Shared Prosperity Report. This would represent a regression to the rate of 9.2% in 2017. Had the pandemic not convulsed the globe, the poverty rate was expected to drop to 7.9% in 2020.

“The pandemic and global recession may cause over 1.4% of the world’s population to fall into extreme poverty,” said World Bank Group President David Malpass. “In order to reverse this serious setback to development progress and poverty reduction, countries will need to prepare for a different economy post-COVID, by allowing capital, labor, skills, and innovation to move into new businesses and sectors. World Bank Group support—across IBRD, IDA, IFC and MIGA—will help developing countries resume growth and respond to the health, social, and economic impacts of COVID-19 as they work toward a sustainable and inclusive recovery.”

a reply to: carewemust

See above. The real impact due to economic destruction is likely in the hundreds of millions of people at risk now.

So have I, and the impact I knew globally due to the economic destruction. It's really frustrating to be so right on covid, while we've spent two years of heavy interference in our lives and all kinds of negative impacts.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: putnam6

I've been saying this since day 1.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: LordAhriman

You are describing personal quarantine where you stay home if you are sick ... you know ... that thing we've all been told to do if we get sick forever, long before there was a COVID.

Lockdown is completely different. That was the attempted forcible quarantine of healthy people with the idea that if you kept every human being apart, the virus wouldn't be able to spread at all.

It didn't work. And if you point to islands like New Zealand as your model, you're forgetting that something small, contained, and completely walled off by the ocean on all sides is already naturally locked down.

Even with flus and colds that we're familiar with, you're spreading it before symptoms kick in. That's always been a thing. That's why households generally get sick at the same time.

It doesn't matter how small or isolated New Zealand is, they said "we have a case in this town. Stay home" and nobody else got it. They pretty much deal with a case at a time.

You mean this New Zealand where cases are higher than ever?

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