Now You See It Now You Don’t, Now You See It Now You Don’t A Russian UFO

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

There is absolutely no factor to do with video footage, holding piece of glass and camera. Aligned object (ufo) is the one which is making unexpected movement (hope I made it clear).

I may have time to demonstrate

originally posted by: AcerM
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

There is absolutely no factor to do with video footage, holding piece of glass and camera. Aligned object (ufo) is the one which is making unexpected movement (hope I made it clear).

I may have time to demonstrate

Well if I get your meaning right about the objects alignment movements, then I’m sure your aware that it has been said that UFO’s while hovering, will exhibit some wobbling or oscillations. To what degree, I don’t know. Subtle or dramatic.

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a reply to: AcerM

I Updated last post on bottom of page 5

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Yes thats something I was thinking too, ufo may randomly move while hovering but then again, it happens only when he is walking and it looks way way too much like tracking error

a reply to: AcerM

From the OP….

…..” At one point, just as he is about to move even closer…..the object (as if noticing him) starts to move off…….but he doesn’t realize it and moves to a closer location to search the sky only to see that it’s no longer there. (Because it’s moved off)”….

Look closely this is towards the end…..of the OP vid


Now…aside from using the same piece of glass in the challenge to replicate Igor’s vid…in addition to applying 3 separate sized object on the 3D layer of the same piece of glass……you’ll have to replicate a 3D layer that’s animated to account for the smooth departing movement of the object to the right.

So if Igor’s shared was a 3D layered shard, then as he moves it down to move to a closer spot…..the object would, with the shard, move downward as well…..instead the object moves to the right at about the same altitude.



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Anything on a single video these days has to be considered 100% false.
If you get more than one video from other people, and they match up, then you have an interesting case.
But just remember the multiple angles of the hoaxed Jerusalem Temple Mount UFO video from years ago. So even with multiple angles and other videos, it must be investigated.
We need massive evidence and incredulous integrity to ever take such videos seriously.

With that said, I am still interested in the subject. But liars and hoaxers will be just that. Who wants to be a willing victim to them?

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
I don’t know how to define what the flexing accomplishes and whether the grid is fixed to the camera or not…

I took the two frames in which we see the grid and superimposed them in Gimp (an open source image editor) and I could see that the grid is in exactly the same place in both images while the piece of "glass" moves.

There are only two things that do not move in the video, the camera and, as a consequence, the background, so seeing that the grid doesn't appear to move is suspicious.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying, but adding objects to a video is not limited to one layer, you can have many with many different things moving in different directions.

A 3D scene made on some 3D program would only need to have a camera with similar characteristics than the camera used to make the video for things to look similar regarding perspective (all 3D programs that have animation capabilities that I have seen have fully configurable cameras), so a final scene rendered in one of those programs could easily replicate a real scene.
To make it even closer to reality they could even add the buildings to the 3D scene to help the alignment and remove them prior to rendering the final animation. Then that animation would be superimposed with the video of the buildings and clouds and piece of glasse.

It only takes time and thought, something that some people have lots of.

a reply to: ArMaP

The grid appears to move with the shard to me, albeit you may have been able to look at in more detail.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Just for the record I don't believe Isaac was identified.

I'm not suggesting any link between Isaac and Igor, other than the MO similarity.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

At 4 mins exactly in the vid you posted - do you not see any similarities between that and the inscription on the shard ?

If not fine but it would be the kind of easter egg I imagine the person behind this may stick in.

originally posted by: Gothmog
"Put the damn glasses on"

Fake .
A 4th grader could do this .

Then get a 4th grader to post a vid... most 4th graders i know struggle with math.. but apparently in your world they are cgi experts..

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

This is interesting.

I remember another Russia photography built a camera that could take pictures of the past. I wonder what happened to that. They also put some glass in the front of the camera.

originally posted by: Romeopsi
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

This is interesting.

I remember another Russia photography built a camera that could take pictures of the past. I wonder what happened to that. They also put some glass in the front of the camera.

For me … that reminds me, in a tangent way, of a scene from the series Fringe….



Now imagine taking this concept, make it real, and miniaturizing the electronics, etc. and then have it all in a set of goggles….being able to tune in and view different dimensions…….hmmmmm

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a reply to: Romeopsi

The 2020 Google surface imagery still has this water tank standing at the end of Diamond ave across the ravine in the Los Alamos lab area. Overhead imagery from over a decade ago shows its gone?

So if he can only see the UFO with the glass how did he discover the UFO in the 1st place that would be like searching the sky for a needle. He just get up one morning and say to himself "I bet I can find a UFO by looking through this broken glass"

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
So if he can only see the UFO with the glass how did he discover the UFO in the 1st place that would be like searching the sky for a needle. He just get up one morning and say to himself "I bet I can find a UFO by looking through this broken glass"

Here….listen to this YouTubers take on the Igor vid…..

Listen specifically to time 1:34 to 2:10

It mentions the …how did he know to even use it to see UFO’s….

Still not explained….at least in this particular vid.

You question is a good one….unfortunately nobody in Russia who may be an ATS member….is chiming in to investigate your question, also asked previously by others on this thread.



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At 1:40 the glass disappears. Not real.

unfortunately nobody in Russia who may be an ATS member….is chiming in to investigate your question, also asked previously by others on this thread.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I'm wondering if this was done by a Russian over on the Polish border side of the country?
Might not be anything shareable with anyone outside his particular social circle.

Perhaps from here forward we make it easier to distinguish which video is being referenced when a ….time is given i.e. 2:45 etc… in a post, and not the video the reference is being made from. Who wants to search all the vids?

So giving designated identifier word help:

VID1 ……the OP’s supplied Igor video

VID2 …..the OP’s supplied Debunk attempt video from a Russian YouTuber/analyzer

VID3 …..the SpaceSpider supplied Igor video shot from a different location and possibly a different day. Remember, Igor supposedly went from flying drones to UFO hunting once he obtained the shards.

VID4 …. the SpaceSpider supplied Igor video showing the grid on the glass and flexing demonstration

VID5 …. the Acknt supplied video of a YouTubers own video with narrated comments of the main Igor video referenced in the OP….this one shows the small shard and larger shard the smaller shard was broken from.

If we could stick to these designations VID1, VID2, etc. …….it would be a whole lot less searching from what ever time on a vid is mentioned and not much left to reference that could be remembered this far into the thread.

Just trying to make it easier 👍🏼

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