Now You See It Now You Don’t, Now You See It Now You Don’t A Russian UFO

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

What ever it is, it really is some of the more interesting stuff I seen here on ATS for while.
I subscribed to his channel hoping he will make more observations and explanation.
If it is fake, it is a kind of fake I have not seen before and really clever.
The question is, would we recognize real footage if we saw it at this point.

Maybe it's explained somewhere but how does he first see these UFO's - does he walk round all the time looking through the piece of plastic ?

It's a hoax, albeit a good try with some unique side hooks.

originally posted by: Spacespider
Here is a translation and explanation of the video and glass

Apparently the "glass" comes from a crashed UFO

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The "inscription" on the glass is very similar to the Isaac / caret drone inscriptions, FWIW

originally posted by: Acknt

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: Spacespider

The first two vids you posted….

Required additional stimulus in order to show something….. the first vid has him with his gizmo need to touch it to do it’s thing..

Edit : there actually isn't any blue flame or flammable substance I was completely wrong about that. When watching again, when he pushed the button on the lighter spark mechanism the glass or whatever it is has a grid pattern light up on it.

Did you also notice that at the point of spark almost all of the perspex/glass disappears/goes invisible, then you see the grid flash when it comes back?
Also the grid appears when he is flexing the glass in the other video.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

What ever it is, it really is some of the more interesting stuff I seen here on ATS for while.
I subscribed to his channel hoping he will make more observations and explanation.
If it is fake, it is a kind of fake I have not seen before and really clever.
The question is, would we recognize real footage if we saw it at this point.

Well there may be a problem getting more observations….which may be suspect..

Below is a vid provided by ATS member Acknt, in which some YouTuber….(not the guy with the piece of glass/plastic)…..goes on to say that he understands from the guy ….( let’s give the guy the name …Igor )…a typical Russian name, from now forward, instead of “the guy or person”….that the piece has lost it’s ability to show anymore objects. The YouTuber says that Igor’s piece of glass/plastic was heated (I assume on it’s own) and now it has turned cold (or back to room temperature?) and is no longer useable.

I’m not sure about the YouTuber…..I don’t know if he actually knows Igor personally, or the YouTuber is speaking from, or, creating, embellishing, second hand knowledge…which is suspect imo.

Here’s the vid provided by ATS member Acknt


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Im sorry if that was a real UFO he would be screaming at everyone to look . Stopping cars the whole 9 yards fake as fake can be .,

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Do you have, perhaps, a technical opinion on how it was faked?

What’s the secret, the gimmick?

I haven’t called it a hoax or fake yet…..because then I would need to prove how it was done.

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Go to around 1:39 and stop the video right at the point the edge of the glass he has as it passes down there is no distortion it simply fades - I'm going with CGI "JMO" You see nothing in the edge "bevel" of the glass.

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

In this thread….there are 3 related video’s

OP
SpaceSpider
Acknt

Which video are you referring to?

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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

OP and if you noticed it fades before all the glass passes down try and stop the video when the glass 'edge" is in middle of the object .

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Your absolutely right!

But you’ll also notice….when playing the entire OP and SpaceSpider vids…..the distortion doesn’t happen all the time as he’s flipping back and forth.

I think it has something to do with the angle(s) of the piece cut edge, as held in his hand (and frame rate while stepping through the video to find it) at which he does the flipping that makes the difference of when the distorted cut edge appears.

Imo as to it being faked? In Star Trek verbiage…..Insufficient Data

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Screenshots from the Acknt provided vid…..(time 1:34)



Notice the circular symbols/graphics

Thanks Acknt!🍻

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I have used youtube on 720p and bandicam and then ezgif to create these gifs from original video, slowing the video in youtube down to 0.25 speed and then reducing the gif speed by a further 50%, i have had to share them on giphy as I cant upload to ATS due to filesize I am guessing

the first gif is from 1.39 in OP video and shows when the glass is swiped over the object the object disappears partially

UFO Gif 1


The second is taken from 2.23 in OP video, in the previous swipes with the glass it appeared the ufo partially appears as the glass is moved over the objects area but in this sequence it straight up just fully appear,

UFO gif 2


is this evidence of sloppy CGI work? Did he get lazy? I will let greater minds than mine decide

EDIT

I have cropped the images and I can now upload smaller versions to ATS but still use links above for full size

gif from 1.39 in OP



gif from 2.23 in OP

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Screenshots from the Acknt provided vid…..(time 1:34)

Notice the circular symbols/graphics

Thanks Acknt!🍻

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Could be a Planetary System.

As other people have pointed, it shakes too much when seen closer, and that makes me obviously think of CGI.

Also, I don't see how putting some filter between a camera and a target can add something to the light entering the camera, as anything between the camera and the target can only remove something. Even a polarising filter will block some light, it doesn't add a thing.

Looking at the video frame by frame in the parts he moves the glass in or out of the way, I noticed two things:

- at the start (0:18.418) we see a seagull in front of the edge of the glass, and we see something that I was expecting, the reflection of the seagull on the other surface of the glass being reflected onto the edge, so we see the seagull through the edge and a faint reflection below it. That never happens to the UFO.
(click the images for full size)

- at 01:36.129 and for two frames we see the man's hand getting in front of the UFO, and we see a slight brighter line around the UFO, which is, obviously, very suspicious, although it can be said that it's the edge of the UFO.

PS: the last time I checked, these were the Russian speaking members that said could make some translations, but I don't think they have been active lately.

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a reply to: ArMaP

There was audio cueing as he placed the plastic into the view which made me think this was faked but since we were shown the UFO glass being prepped for piezo plasma discharge its possible the video was suggesting plasma mirror technology.

We present and characterize a very efficient optical device that employs the plasma mirror technique to increase the contrast of high-power laser systems. Contrast improvements higher than 10(to the 4th) with 50% transmission are shown to be routinely achieved on a typical 10 TW laser system when the pulse is reflected on two consecutive plasma mirrors.

Did they have lasers in the 1930's or would something like that be seen as a UFO?

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I subscribed to his channel hoping he will make more observations and explanation.

Up until now….what have we actually seen??……Igor has a piece of transparent material that when looked through can see UFO’s. For purposes of capturing this video….he uses a camera device, cellphone, etc.

Perhaps SpaceSpider…..through the YouTube messaging system, and since you are subscribing…..try to have some Q&A with Igor (ask what his real name is) and ask if he could see objects through the transparent material without a camera.

This will weed out if the lens and circuitry of the camera are required in combination with the transparent material…..or….all he needs is his eyes looking through the transparent material like looking through a normal human window.

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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
Perhaps SpaceSpider…..through the YouTube messaging system, and since you are subscribing…..try to have some Q&A with Igor (ask what his real name is) and ask if he could see objects through the transparent material without a camera.

I think YouTube's messaging system doesn't exist any more.

Has anybody been able to make heads or tails of the debunk attempt vid I posted in the OP? I haven’t….just curious.

Here’s the translated title……”Kemerovo UFO hunter with glass is not a fake” shown below in Google translator…….btw Kemerovo is a city in Russia.

Would there possibly be a MUFON or equivalent in Russia that may have a report about any of Igor’s sightings???



In the beginning it does look like he’s analyzing the seagulls? among other things….

Source: m.youtube.com...
(I’m having trouble embedding the vid from YouTube)

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