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Now You See It Now You Don’t, Now You See It Now You Don’t A Russian UFO

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posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I didn't watch that video, it's too long for my taste (I hate videos).



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: Ravenwatcher

Your absolutely right!

But you’ll also notice….when playing the entire OP and SpaceSpider vids…..the distortion doesn’t happen all the time as he’s flipping back and forth.

I think it has something to do with the angle(s) of the piece cut edge, as held in his hand (and frame rate while stepping through the video to find it) at which he does the flipping that makes the difference of when the distorted cut edge appears.

Imo as to it being faked? In Star Trek verbiage…..Insufficient Data

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Here’s a drawing I threw together that hopefully illustrates my point above. Essentially, it depends on the speed of pivoting (flipping) the transparent material and a the angle at which it is being pivoted. So yes….there will be frames of the material edge, as in the OP where the object is seen distorted in the cut edge of the material, and there will be frames of the material edge where the object is not seen distorted and at all, in terms of the material’s cut edge.



I think hoaxing a detail such as the distortions…especially in selected frames, would require tedious attention to embed it into the frames…… so I’m not yet convinced of a hoax….


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posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
I think hoaxing a detail such as the distortions…especially in selected frames, would require tedious attention to embed it into the frames…… so I’m not yet convinced of a hoax….

I'm not used to video editing software (except the simple Avidemux) in which something like this could be done, but I think top software like After Effects probably has the capacity of adding something like transparency effects, as that's just a "simple" mathematical operation.



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP

Except that we would have the whole piezo plasma explanation to just throw away if we did that.
Why not wait for someone to see the diagram since OP took the time to set that up?





posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 05:54 PM
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As of this post…..no one, including myself, has yet to offer real proof and how that proof is provable by demonstrating and replicating, or finding a debunking, of what has been shown in the OP vid.

However, the theories proposed by members was and is well appreciated! 👍🏼

This case isn’t closed….but it is….



At least until someone has found an AhHa! moment for all of us.

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posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

A very interesting stuff and might be even shocking to some if you believe it's real.

I can't debunk it with any videos or technical details to prove how it was done step by step,
But I know that this is something very possible in this day and age.

First off it''s a fake just based on knowing that alien ships or UFO doesn't have any part made of glass that would break off so easily.
Besides the UFO he's filming seem all like metallic objects which have no windows or anything in that nature. We should be asking him where's his claimed crashed UFO and did you not record it?

I gotta go with deep fake technology that was used to create these videos.

Basically he's just using glass and acting as if UFO is there but it's not.
With deep fake AI coding he can insert anything into the original video and reprocess or recompile to make it look like an unaltered video.

Those birds are probably fake as well or shows some glitches due to reprocessing error? when you zoom in. Definitely not a hi-def original footage.



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: fromunclexcommunicate
a reply to: ArMaP

Except that we would have the whole piezo plasma explanation to just throw away if we did that.


What's the problem of throwing away the piezo plasma explanation if it's not a real explanation?



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP

The piezo lighter glass treatment could be interpreted different ways.
Plasma corona treatment didn't inspire anyone on ATS.
Plasma mirror didn't either.

"25 Lighters," is Houston ghetto slang for taking Bic Lighters apart, removing the innards and filling them with crack.

Whats real again?



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: fromunclexcommunicate

All that means nothing, as it doesn't explain a thing of what we see in the video.

Mentioning a technology without saying how it could do what we see is not an explanation, it's only adding another unknown to problem.



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Excellent post, first off.
I have been a member for years, and I simply glance at the site these days because most posts are either dull, uninteresting, click bait, clearly CGI, or incredibly terrible quality, lights in the night sky, or just stories.

But this - this is more interesting. Definitely worth a star - even if it proves to be fake, just because of the unqiue nature, quality and idea of using the piece of acrylic or alien shard thingy!

First of all, anyone who says "I never watch videos" or simply "easy, any 4th grader can do this" or on the opposite side "this is just simply complete proof positive" should, in my humble opinion, go to some crappy forum somewhere else. Your posts are less than useless.

So. Summary just of this video on its own merits:
The title reads "Я в ШОКЕ!!! Такого вы точно никогда не видели!!!!!!! НЛО прячутся от нас прямо над головами у людей!" translated to: "I'm shocked!!! You've definitely never seen anything like this! UFOs are hiding from us right above people's heads!" which is ok.
It has been viewed 224,000 times and posted on August 20, 2020 - so hardly viewed at all considering
Most comments are in Russian on the YouTube Site.

It's a standard Russian UFO site, so that proves nothing.
Quality is very good, compared to nighttime flashing lights or shaky assed fuzz that we normally see
However not 4k or anything - I wish it was taken using a Samsung S21 or something!
OK straight to it, my summary is pretty quick:

Either he is an excellent CGI / AI digital composer, who has gone the extra mile by using acrylic or a glass shard or something to add real complexity to a video
Or he has found(?) something that allows to see something in the sky - that can only be a classic UFO.

Given that the second option is mind blowing, we have to do 1 simple thing:
Someone (especially those saying "easy CGI any 4th grader can do this") please re-create this using your CGI / AI digital art skills... I would love to see it debunked, and the "simplest" way is for one of us to actually re-create it... go ahead!

Otherwise - I am going with "unsolved"



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
"Put the damn glasses on"


Fake .
A 4th grader could do this .


Do it. Make a video of you doing it and post it here.



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 09:18 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Gothmog
"Put the damn glasses on"


Fake .
A 4th grader could do this .


Do it. Make a video of you doing it and post it here.


It is claimed during the Vietnam war red night vision goggles were used and troops started reporting seeing flying demons. It got so bad the army actually tells officers not to use them. When they changed over to green this problem seemed to have disappeared.

Were they seeing demons or was it the hallucinations caused by drug use?



posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 09:31 PM
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posted on Jan, 16 2022 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Gothmog
"Put the damn glasses on"


Fake .
A 4th grader could do this .


Do it. Make a video of you doing it and post it here.

I have the video editing software .
Just not the time .
Remind me again later.



posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 01:40 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Gothmog
"Put the damn glasses on"


Fake .
A 4th grader could do this .


Do it. Make a video of you doing it and post it here.


It is claimed during the Vietnam war red night vision goggles were used and troops started reporting seeing flying demons. It got so bad the army actually tells officers not to use them. When they changed over to green this problem seemed to have disappeared.

Were they seeing demons or was it the hallucinations caused by drug use?



Interesting, could be related to the subject, as he supposal claimed the material was alien related.







posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 03:12 AM
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originally posted by: Spacespider
originally posted by: dragonridr
It is claimed during the Vietnam war red night vision goggles were used and troops started reporting seeing flying demons. It got so bad the army actually tells officers not to use them. When they changed over to green this problem seemed to have disappeared.

Interesting, could be related to the subject, as he supposal claimed the material was alien related.


According to the below…Red NV was never selected by the military….only green. If ya find reliable info to the contrary… kindly post with link(s)

Source: Flying with Night Vision Devices

……” Color and Contrast Vision

Like contrast vision, color vision is a function of the retinal cones. Human beings are typical trichromats, i.e. they have one cone type each for the perception of blue, red or green. Under natural visibility conditions, the activation of the cones is determined by the electromagnetic wavelength of the incoming photons. If an NVD is placed in front of the human eye, this mechanism will be changed. The operating principle of the I2 converters implies that any color information regarding the incoming light is lost due to the deceleration of the photons at the photocathode. The result is a monochrome image with contours that must be resolved by means of contrast vision [21]. The color of this image will exclusively depend on the wavelength of the light emitted by the activated phosphorus [22]. As detail recognition is in the focus of interest for military purposes, it has been agreed to use the color for which the human eye shows the highest sensitivity in the dark-adapted condition, i.e. green. From a technological point of view, red or blue could have been selected just as well. In principle, orientation in a color-degraded, green environment is not more difficult or unpleasant than watching a black-and-white movie from the era of tube monitors.”…..

Despite the above color choice of green NV by the military……Optics wavelengths technologies may indeed be the key to seeing the unseen.

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posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 07:07 AM
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The water tank shaped UFO would actually be located behind the observer if the TA shaped shard was surface reflective. Attosecond switching for laser beam trunk links to Russia would be a handy application. I was just trying to date the technology the Video was alluding to. He probably didn't have the technical knowledge to heat the surface at those speeds though.

Attosecond lighthouses from plasma mirrors.

www.nature.com...

If all you have is a crack pipe everything looks like a butane lighter.
Maybe Houston doesn't have the same problem?



posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 07:56 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Yes, as I noted earlier very similar to the Isaac / caret drone inscriptions, or some crop circles.

I don't believe Isaac was ever identified.



posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 09:06 AM
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It's very obvious that it's CGI.
edit on 17-1-2022 by belkide because: punctuation



posted on Jan, 17 2022 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: chunder
Maybe it's explained somewhere but how does he first see these UFO's - does he walk round all the time looking through the piece of plastic ?

It's a hoax, albeit a good try with some unique side hooks.


If I had a genuine piece of ET material that I could use to see craft then you bet I’d be spending a fair bit of time walking around looking through it.


That said, it’s probably a hoax.




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