Lets clear the Air surrounding the Sars-Cov19 " Vaccine "

The Toxic attitude of those who CHOSE to be vaccinated against those who are unvaccinated is becoming ..for lack of a better word Brutal .

I understand Fear it is all consuming and clouds one's judgment. There was much Fear at the beginning of the Pandemic and People rushed to get vaccinated . In understanding this I also understand that a lot of those who rushed to be vaccinated now regret being vaccinated , I suppose a part of them feels betrayed and that betrayal is made worse by the mass of people who chose discretion rather than panic .

Mass Psychosis is very real i.e. Nazi Germany and the Holocaust , The Witch Trials of the 15 and 1600’s , The Religious Inquisitions the list goes on .

There is little more dangerous than a Large group of people being manipulated by fear .

Now if we can, let's clear the air on the Sars-Cov19 “ Vaccine “ , and to do so we first have to ask . How does a Vaccine work ?

A vaccine works by introducing a weakened version of the Virus into your system and then your body's Natural Immune system attacks the weakened Virus creating antibodies specifically meant to kill said Virus . So the next time your body is infected with the same virus your immune system has a ready made antibody response .

BUT this is not how an mRNA vaccine works .

Now here are the relevant questions for those who have this irrational anger towards the unvaccinated .

1. Does a Vaccine Stop the Virus from infecting you ?
2. Does the Vaccine Stop you from spreading the Virus ?

Answer No and No , The Vaccine theoretically keeps the Virus from making the vaccinated individual sick . The Vaccinated can still carry and spread the Virus and when someone who isn't vaccinated or does not have natural antibodies catches the Virus surprise they get sick .

I’ve heard people say “ Oh I got the Vaccine because I didn’t want to infect my Grandparents , or Parents or Children etc etc “ . Well how very altruistic of you but that is not how a Vaccine works , especially not an mRNA vaccine .

A vaccinated persons cells can lesson the replication of the Virus in turn theoretically making them less contagious, but they are still an incubator for the virus in turn spreading it .

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I am tired of the controversy surrounding this current taking of my freedoms as an American citizen and am just going to drop this here...



For those that can understand that, I'm with you.

For those that can't, once again I am a huge fan of Social Darwinism.

I already know the ending.

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This Medical Fascism we are seeing Right Now should more properly be called Corporatism, since it is the merger of State and Corporate Power . Corporations are Enforcing Fascist Socialist Dictates and they Operate as an arm of Government with the Power to Act Outside of Our Constitution . This Alone should Rally the American People to Arms when the Process of Law is Overridden by these Petty Dictators ! .........

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
Answer No and No , The Vaccine theoretically keeps the Virus from making the vaccinated individual sick . The Vaccinated can still carry and spread the Virus and when someone who isn't vaccinated or does not have natural antibodies catches the Virus surprise they get sick .

I think the vaccine would be much better if it in deed DID prevent people from getting sick. But unfortunately that is not the case. Vaccinated can & DO get sick, although usually not as sick as un-vaccinated people.

You can repeat this adnauseam till the cows come home and with the spoon, jumps over the moon...

People will still call the unvaxxed selfish monsters for daring to not take the vax, while they bang on about being double vaxxed and boostered, claiming they're doing their bit to protect the wider community and their close family members.

They have not the mental bus fare to ride the route that actual logic takes them, nor do they care. It's all about being a smug arrogant tea bag, pointing fingers and blaming everything on everyone else.

They don't even realise, nor care, that whilst they may be asymptomatic, they are in fact now super spreaders... it's madness.

Try tell them, the stick their fingers in their ears and naaa naaa naaa naaa naaa... Worst of all is when you see politicians, media and celebrities claiming that on the one hand, it doesn't mean a vaccinated person wont still be able to spread the virus, but that on the other saying it protects others from catching it from you...

??????

Here, have the cake that you made, now eat it.

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Booster shots protect against symptomatic Omicron infection for about 10 weeks, study finds

Does that mean will will have asymptomatic carriers walking around?

which could mean more doses for some in 2022

Maybe it's time we think about IV lines run directly to everyone's home. People are wasting a lot of gas going for these boosters.

Few of the younger generation- or even the elder generation- understand how our government works, from the city to the state to the federal level. Those that do keep trying to wake up society, and nobody wants to listen. The TV tells them things are great, except for this killer virus, which they're working on, and those who say different are radical conspiracy theorists.
Who wants to see 'worst case scenario' when TV tells them just one more booster and we'll be Shangri-la again? Actually, from what I'm seeing lately people aren't listening to much of anything about what's happening in the world; it's too depressing for them to deal with, so they tune out have another beer.

originally posted by: GlobalGold

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
Answer No and No , The Vaccine theoretically keeps the Virus from making the vaccinated individual sick . The Vaccinated can still carry and spread the Virus and when someone who isn't vaccinated or does not have natural antibodies catches the Virus surprise they get sick .

I think the vaccine would be much better if it in deed DID prevent people from getting sick. But unfortunately that is not the case. Vaccinated can & DO get sick, although usually not as sick as un-vaccinated people.

See, I call BS on the usually “not as sick as the unvaccinated “ with all the lying, fudging of data etc…I certainly feel safer long term being unvaccinated

I dunno what it means..its all bad thougha reply to: Uknownparadox

Vaccine?

Oh! You mean the "pre-emptive treatment"

That's all it is.

They shouldn't have re-defined "vaccine" they should have just called these shots what they are.

They are pre-emptive treatments, and that's it.

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I felt more ill from each one of the vax shots than I did from Covid itself.
I was hospitalized for five days when I had Covid.

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First I’m happy you’re fairing well now, 5 days in the hospital is no fun, but it’s not an acceptable dataset for distinguishing whether, or not the claim is true. Way to many variables. I can give 2 family examples that went the other direction, I could stretch and say one more, but that would be an example of what I’m on about.

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My symptoms of Covid were loss of taste and smell, followed by a cough and shortness of breath. I developed pneumonia. No fever was present.

For both vax injections, I developed a fever, severe headache and pain throughout my body.

Whether anyone believes me or not, that’s my story.

I won’t get a booster.

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pre-emptive strike

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Truly, it depends where you are at, the state and government, in my neck of the woods I have not gotten any bad effects from people be, the vaxed or unvaxed, nobody cares, we live life normal no restrictions.

My only problem is that since the jabs became available and the way they were been pushed into the population, I got a gut feeling that I should stay away from them and as far as possible.

Time will tell if my gut feeling is right or wrong.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow

A vaccinated persons cells can lesson the replication of the Virus in turn theoretically making them less contagious, but they are still an incubator for the virus in turn spreading it .

Well, I must say that I just don't understand it. When comparing Covid vaccines to other vaccines, obviously the Covid vaccines fail. But why?

Let's take MMR-Vaccine as a Comparison. Measles Mumps and Rubella Vaccine is made from dead viruses. Then they inject the dead viruses into to you so that your immune system can react to the dead viral matter and build immunity to it. Then if you go into a store and are exposed to measles thru the store's air system, your body catches the real measles, BUT already responds to kill the virus because it was already exposed to dead measles virus. So after a MMR-Vaccine, you have immunity for life.

Then let's look at Pertussis vaccine, aka Whoopong Cough. Pertussis is NOT a virus, but rather Pertussis is caused by bacteria. The way it works it they take tiny amounts of proteins from pertussis bacterium and inject them into people to build an immune response. But it requires a lot of boosters. 4 shots the first 2 years of life (2 months old, 4 months old, 6 months old, and 15 months old). Then 1 more boost at age 4-6 years old. And then another boost 11-12 years old. (Although I seriously remember getting the booster when I was 15 or 16). The final booster in teen years gives Pertussis protection spanning their early 20s.

All those boosters are because Pertussis is a bacteria and not a virus. Pertussis vaccine is a protein-based vaccine. Protein parts from the bacteria injected into people to produce immune response.

Yet Covid is a VIRUS. And instead of making a REAL vaccine from dead viral matter which builds a lifelong immune response, they decided to play injectable-protein games which is what is usually done with bacteria.

The whole approach from the beginning has been flawed. It's an inferior approach to combat a virus. Big Pharma already knows that protein-based injections wane in immunity, such as Pertussis, which requires all the boosters. Yet, Big Pharma is refusing to do what they already know works which is dead virus or weakened virus in a vaccine. It's like from the beginning, Big Pharma never had any intention of offering lifelong immunity to Covid, they wanted to provide inferior inject-a-protein games which they knew would have waning immunity over and over and over again.

And on further comparison of Covid vaccines to Pertussis vaccines, I'd still say Covid vaccines inferior-inject-a-protein games are ridiculous. Pertussis vaccine: 4 doses first 2 years of life offers far better protection to infants than the 4 doses of Covid vax in 1 year.

Really bad products these Covid vaxxes are. Already demanding people get a 4th shot in 1 year. And guess what? Even after the 4th shot, you can still catch and spread Omicron Covid and Omicron Covid will still make you sick.

So what's the point of anyone playing the 4 shots per year, which still won't stop you from getting sick with Covid? Big Pharma needs to stop. They need to be required to make a REAL vaccine that actually works rather than this crap they are trying to force everyone to get.

It's like from the beginning, Big Pharma never had any intention of offering lifelong immunity to Covid, they wanted to provide inferior inject-a-protein games which they knew would have waning immunity over and over and over again.

a reply to: MapMistress

Power and Money and Power and Money and Power and Money .

If something done by Government does not make sense , Follow the money .

You make many good points mate thank you for your contribution to the Post.
If I'm not mistaken the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine was a Weakened Virus Vaccine, Though coincidentally the J&J Vaccine is no longer on the market

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originally posted by: GlobalGold
I think the vaccine would be much better if it in deed DID prevent people from getting sick. But unfortunately that is not the case. Vaccinated can & DO get sick, although usually not as sick as un-vaccinated people.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, doesn't the vaccine only focus and target one strain of the virus?... kinda like having blinkers on horses, they see well what's in front, at the cost of seeing nothing from the side.