Truthbomb: Doctor McCullough Joe Rogan podcast was just released

Wow.. 8.6 BILLION vaccine doses have been administered!!

www.bloomberg.com...

Is the Pandemic over yet? Should be reduced to common cold and flu levels by now.

I just watched the Podcast. (I love the Joe Rogan Experience.) It was an absolute eye opener as well as confirmation on what many people already suspected. Some of what he said while speculative, fit the timeline of events like a glove.

originally posted by: TrollMagnet

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is still promoting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, even above that of ivermectin. Both of which have now proven ineffective against COVID-19.

Also, no one is blocking the monoclonal antibody treatments. That was what Trump received when he was hospitalized with COVID-19, and the FDA has granted EUA approval for several different monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19.

Interestingly, only 7 days after the EUA was granted for the first COVID-19 vaccine, on 11 Dec, there were claims of bells palsy and syncope reactions to the vaccine. Yet at that stage, very few had been vaccinated at all (e.g: on the 14th December 2020, no-one at all had yet been vaccinated in the US, yet 3 days later -18 December 2020, there were claims of numerous adverse reactions and deaths in social media. For some reason, no-one is making those same claims anymore, now there is actual VAERS data).

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Also, they were both shown to not be effective when given late.

Those meds actually digest the spikes on the COVID membrane disabling its ability to attach to cells and replicate. This was proven after SARS COV1, and even Fauchi wrote about it. They cite that in the interview, but I knew about this before and have posted it in the past.

Educate yourself. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The paper you linked to describes how Chloroquine in fairly high concentration suppresses ACE2, not the spike, or anything on the virus itself, but by affecting the normal function of the host cells (and the paper was based only upon 'in vitro' experimental data).

Despite the SARS-CoV-2 virus using ACE2 binding to penetrate host cells, its worst effects are because it turns off ACE2 binding entirely once it has infected the cells. This paper indicates that both Chloroquine and Ammonium Chloride would possibly inhibit initial infection, but they would both, or individually, worsen established infections of SARS-CoV-2.

originally posted by: Acknt
a reply to: chr0naut


"Like have you heard the snake-oil guys say about how Ivermectin is 'cheap'? It has never been cheap. It is one of the more expensive medicines, even for veterinary use, and 'a course of it' is way more expensive than three doses of the Pfizer vax. Check out the prices for yourself

What are you talking about? It costs $168 USD for 1,000 12 mg ivermectin pills.

do you need me to do the math for you???!!!!

We are talking $3.38 US for an average 89.8 KG America to be given 5 days of Ivermectin at 0.5 mg/kg

the Pfizer vaccine costs what, about 23.15? X3 = 69.45

so not 10x , but but mote than 20x more expensive.

You said that a course of Ivermectin costs more than 3 rounds of the Pfizer vaccine.

not even comparable.

Just to be clear, All I'm saying is this bull# about Ivermectin being expensive is propaganda that you bought, chewed up and spat out here for the rest of people who might be stupid enough to go check the goodrx.com price of Ivermectin.

Ivermectin is available to be ordered for $168 per 1,000 12 mg pills.

What human being could require, or would ever be prescribed with, 1,000 ivermectin tablets?

Here's a couple links to sites that supply ivermectin, for human use. Check the prices:

Ivermectin Prices, Coupons and Patient Assistance Programs - Drugs.com

IvermectinFDA Alert
Generic Soolantra, Stromectol - GoodRx

originally posted by: Acknt

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

So you trust a Joe Rogan pod cast over medical health trained professionals. LoL

Presented with the evidence, from 3 different sources.

Computer says you cannot or refuse to read.

What you want to believe son is nonsensical right wing lunatics.

no he trusts the esteemed medical professional who was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

this might be a news flash, but he was treating covid 19 long before he appeared on the podcast...Because he's a doctor.

and his published covid 19 treatment works.

Dr Peter A McCullough led a study into HQC for treatment of COVID-19 under an FDA EUA. However, the FDA found from this, and numerous other studies, that HQC was ineffective, and cancelled the EUA.

He contributed to a paper that proposed another study, which was reposted on social media, but it had no participants, nor any new data.

His published COVID-19 treatment was not using ivermectin, but was using HQC.

It doesn't work well enough to warrant the adverse reactions that such a sustained high dose of HQC would cause, and the FDA has not approved its use.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Acknt

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

So you trust a Joe Rogan pod cast over medical health trained professionals. LoL

Presented with the evidence, from 3 different sources.

Computer says you cannot or refuse to read.

What you want to believe son is nonsensical right wing lunatics.

no he trusts the esteemed medical professional who was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

this might be a news flash, but he was treating covid 19 long before he appeared on the podcast...Because he's a doctor.

and his published covid 19 treatment works.

Dr Peter A McCullough led a study into HQC for treatment of COVID-19 under an FDA EUA. However, the FDA found from this, and numerous other studies, that HQC was ineffective, and cancelled the EUA.

He contributed to a paper that proposed another study, which was reposted on social media, but it had no participants, nor any new data.

His published COVID-19 treatment was not using ivermectin, but was using HQC.

It doesn't work well enough to warrant the adverse reactions that such a sustained high dose of HQC would cause, and the FDA has not approved its use.

One trick they are using is to administer it late in the progression of the virus when patients are already in the hospital and in bad shape. Care to use the same standards on the vaccine?

What is being said is that if used immediately after diagnosis early on in the process the protocols in the kitchen sink method are quite effective and nobody can honestly dispute that.

For all of you denying the effectiveness of ivermectin,

(wanted to do a thread on the below but I can't find the time to properly gather the links and info)

Did you notice the 'sudden' local epidemics of scabies since the summer?
(probably not, but trust me and look it up, it's there! On paper anyway......).
Did you notice the numerous countries world wide that are ordering more and more medicine for it because they don't have enough?
Guess what the medicine is? Ivermectin
Now try and find one confirmed cluster of scabies, not an article in a propaganda paper, but a real person (good luck on that one).

Stumbled upon this one when there was a so called scabies epidemic in my area and the local hospital had to put in a huge order for Ivermectin. It was around the same time that Omikron news came out. So I've been asking around, who are those families affected by scabies and now in quarantine? No one knows anyone, anywhere.... I work in a local store, I know practically everyone. No one is in quarantined for scabies, only for covid. So what do they intent to treat with the Ivermectin?

Anyway, sounds like a good conspiracy but I don't have the time to look into it further. In the least it's one hell of a coincidence...
If anyone wants to pick it up be my guest

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is still promoting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, even above that of ivermectin. Both of which have now proven ineffective against COVID-19.

Also, no one is blocking the monoclonal antibody treatments. That was what Trump received when he was hospitalized with COVID-19, and the FDA has granted EUA approval for several different monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19.

Interestingly, only 7 days after the EUA was granted for the first COVID-19 vaccine, on 11 Dec, there were claims of bells palsy and syncope reactions to the vaccine. Yet at that stage, very few had been vaccinated at all (e.g: on the 14th December 2020, no-one at all had yet been vaccinated in the US, yet 3 days later -18 December 2020, there were claims of numerous adverse reactions and deaths in social media. For some reason, no-one is making those same claims anymore, now there is actual VAERS data).

Nonsense. You don’t know what you’re talking about. They both work in outpatient care, but once the disease has progressed for 10-14 days it becomes ineffective like everything else.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

You can overdose on Ivermectin.

"Symptoms can include nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, hypotension, itching and hives, dizziness, problems with balance, seizures, even coma even death."

www.npr.org...[ /quote]You didn’t watch the video, obviously.

a reply to: chr0naut

normal function of the host cells

it's just a little pin prick

Examples of vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection

originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: chr0naut

normal function of the host cells

The host cells in a viral infection are not the virus particles, but are the cells of the organism that carries the infection.

In the case of the previously linked in-vitro study, the host cells were cultured human cells in-vitro, not in-vivo.

it's just a little pin prick

Examples of vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection

Here's a more recent paper on ADE, and one that relates directly to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and its vaccines:

Antibody-dependent enhancement and SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and therapies - Nature Microbiology

If ADE were happening, it would appear in VAERS, and in epidemiological data. At present, there does not appear to be any significant ADE occurring due to the mRNA vaccines. Also, inactivated whole virus vaccines are more likely to cause ADE than a single protein targeted vaccine, as was mentioned in the article.

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Acknt

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

So you trust a Joe Rogan pod cast over medical health trained professionals. LoL

Presented with the evidence, from 3 different sources.

Computer says you cannot or refuse to read.

What you want to believe son is nonsensical right wing lunatics.

no he trusts the esteemed medical professional who was on the Joe Rogan podcast.

this might be a news flash, but he was treating covid 19 long before he appeared on the podcast...Because he's a doctor.

and his published covid 19 treatment works.

Dr Peter A McCullough led a study into HQC for treatment of COVID-19 under an FDA EUA. However, the FDA found from this, and numerous other studies, that HQC was ineffective, and cancelled the EUA.

He contributed to a paper that proposed another study, which was reposted on social media, but it had no participants, nor any new data.

His published COVID-19 treatment was not using ivermectin, but was using HQC.

It doesn't work well enough to warrant the adverse reactions that such a sustained high dose of HQC would cause, and the FDA has not approved its use.

One trick they are using is to administer it late in the progression of the virus when patients are already in the hospital and in bad shape. Care to use the same standards on the vaccine?

What is being said is that if used immediately after diagnosis early on in the process the protocols in the kitchen sink method are quite effective and nobody can honestly dispute that.

The FDA granted the EUA to study HQC, but did not control the nature and procedure of those studies. They were designed and performed by independent researchers, such as Doctor McCullough, referenced in the OP.

There was no 'trick' done to make all these studies have bad outcomes. That is just silly paranoia.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is still promoting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, even above that of ivermectin. Both of which have now proven ineffective against COVID-19.

Also, no one is blocking the monoclonal antibody treatments. That was what Trump received when he was hospitalized with COVID-19, and the FDA has granted EUA approval for several different monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19.

Interestingly, only 7 days after the EUA was granted for the first COVID-19 vaccine, on 11 Dec, there were claims of bells palsy and syncope reactions to the vaccine. Yet at that stage, very few had been vaccinated at all (e.g: on the 14th December 2020, no-one at all had yet been vaccinated in the US, yet 3 days later -18 December 2020, there were claims of numerous adverse reactions and deaths in social media. For some reason, no-one is making those same claims anymore, now there is actual VAERS data).

What?

Both HCQ and Ivermection have been proven to be extremely effective at treating the symptoms of covid 19, AND reducing hospitalizations for covid.

That's called a treatment.

And yet, drugs regulatory authorities in countries around the world won't approve HQC or ivermectin for use as a treatment for COVID-19?

The Food and Drug Administration, U.S. Centers for Disease Control, the European Medicines Agency, the American Medical Association, the American Pharmacists Association, the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists, and the World Health Organization have stated that ivermectin is not authorized or approved to treat COVID-19.

Why is that, if it is so good?

Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug

Meanwhile, they changed the purpose of the vaccine from "stopping you from getting covid," which is what a vaccine is supposed to do, to "reducing hospitalizations from covid," which is a treatment, and what HCQ and Ivermectin actually do, and cheaply at that.

No vaccine is 100% effective. Most vaccines require multiple vaccinations to be effective, and most of them reduce in effect over time.

No-one "changed the purpose of a vaccine", just for the COVID-19 vaccines.

All roads lead to the vaccine brother. They want to jab everyone including kids who don’t get sick. Why that is is anyones guess.

This is the first disease in my lifetime where the early treatment is no treatment at all. Telling people to go home and if they get severe symptoms they can return to the hospital. By that time it is too late. Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin are impactful in early outpatient treatment to prevent hospitalization in the first place. They are not impactful for impatient care because you have allowed the virus take a stranglehold on the body and continue replication for 14 days. Hospitalization is a death sentence that can be avoided. The Dr is 100% correct and provides sources for everything he claims.

originally posted by: zandra
a reply to: andy06shake

And why are people self medicating? Because they have no other choice. Of course they overdose from time to time. They are no doctors and doctors are even afraid of losing their job if they would try to help with ivermectin. Do you find this normal??
Btw there are studies pro and contra ivermectin. just like with Remdesivir and almost every medecin.
Just an example www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Ivermectin dosing is tricky. It varies based on size and weight if the individual. It’s not a one size fits all dosage for everyone. If he had of watched the video he would have seen Dr McCullough explain this in plain English, but he didn’t because the medical establishment that has organized the official narrative has put a restraining order against this once well respected Dr.

a reply to: chr0naut

I find it lazy when people throw the shill card in the ring but bruhh, you're either delusional, shilling or to deeply invested in this vax game to see the forest for the trees.

Making a retard of yourself in this thread to be honest.

And you seem intelligent enough.

Lovely seeing other posters argue about the subject, when they havent even watched the interview.

I felt rogan was going to deep into lalal land, when demi lovato came on but damn, this is the best interview of the year.. by far.

Every single thing you said here is a complete LIE

Specially the lie about the price for ivermectin being expensive!!

Why do you insist on coming into a forum and always posting stuff like this that goes against the grain?

You are like a politician..repeat the lies enough and eventually people will take lies as truth.

But not here silly..we are more than the average person..

We are ATS.
...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is still promoting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, even above that of ivermectin. Both of which have now proven ineffective against COVID-19.

Also, no one is blocking the monoclonal antibody treatments. That was what Trump received when he was hospitalized with COVID-19, and the FDA has granted EUA approval for several different monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19.

Interestingly, only 7 days after the EUA was granted for the first anti-COVID-19 vaccine on 11 Dec, there were claims of bells palsy and syncope reactions to the vaccine. Yet at that stage, very few had been vaccinated at all (e.g: on the 14th December 2020, no-one at all had yet been vaccinated in the US, yet 3 days later, there were claims of numerous adverse reactions in the media).

Wrong, all of those treatments have different degrees of efficacy, but work. He explains exactly how a shell company was created to fund fake studies against HCQ, and then disapeared. Ivermectin may be better, but there are numerous drugs that can help, like fluvoxamine, ivermectin, quercetin, almost any zinc ionophore.

c19hcq.com...

Two years into the crisis and not a single early treatment protocol from any institution, just a single minded goal to vaccinate people for eternity while the most vaccinated countries are experiencing record case rates. A massive agenda, yes.

c19hcq.com...

The Brazilian and Indian governments were actually promoting and distributing Z-Packs, HQC, and Ivermectin. Now, a few months down the track, they have stopped, and their respective health authorities have ruled them as ineffective and dangerous. Why might that be? Their people were expecting and hopeful that they would work. Their government was committed to them, but in practice, they were worse than useless.

That hasn't stopped the same snake-oil salesmen from continuing their misinformation campaign, even claiming that the failures seen in countries where they were used, there were vast positive numbers of successful treatments. It's the snake-oil guys that are the liars.

Like have you heard the snake-oil guys say about how Ivermectin is 'cheap'? It has never been cheap. It is one of the more expensive medicines, even for veterinary use, and 'a course of it' is way more expensive than three doses of the Pfizer vax. Check out the prices for yourself!

Wake up that when one person is saying something contrary to numerous credentialled, peer-reviewed, closely monitored, regulated, and supervised groups, that it is usually the lone voice, unconstrained by anything, that is the liar.

Additionally, the doctor has claimed that asymptomatic COVID-19 does not happen. It is part of the basis of his allegations. Just about everyone knows of people who have tested positive, multiple times, but without symptoms.

a reply to: chr0naut

Dude, the harder you try to push the propaganda, the less people believe you. You constantly strive to defend the FDA and other captured regulator agencies to the point where you sound like their personal lawyer. No one believes you.

originally posted by: macaronicaesar

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: rounda

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

He is still promoting hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment, even above that of ivermectin. Both of which have now proven ineffective against COVID-19.

Also, no one is blocking the monoclonal antibody treatments. That was what Trump received when he was hospitalized with COVID-19, and the FDA has granted EUA approval for several different monoclonal antibody treatments for COVID-19.

Interestingly, only 7 days after the EUA was granted for the first COVID-19 vaccine, on 11 Dec, there were claims of bells palsy and syncope reactions to the vaccine. Yet at that stage, very few had been vaccinated at all (e.g: on the 14th December 2020, no-one at all had yet been vaccinated in the US, yet 3 days later -18 December 2020, there were claims of numerous adverse reactions and deaths in social media. For some reason, no-one is making those same claims anymore, now there is actual VAERS data).

What?

Both HCQ and Ivermection have been proven to be extremely effective at treating the symptoms of covid 19, AND reducing hospitalizations for covid.

That's called a treatment.

And yet, drugs regulatory authorities in countries around the world won't approve HQC or ivermectin for use as a treatment for COVID-19?

The Food and Drug Administration, U.S. Centers for Disease Control, the European Medicines Agency, the American Medical Association, the American Pharmacists Association, the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists, and the World Health Organization have stated that ivermectin is not authorized or approved to treat COVID-19.

Why is that, if it is so good?

Ivermectin: How false science created a Covid 'miracle' drug

Meanwhile, they changed the purpose of the vaccine from "stopping you from getting covid," which is what a vaccine is supposed to do, to "reducing hospitalizations from covid," which is a treatment, and what HCQ and Ivermectin actually do, and cheaply at that.

No vaccine is 100% effective. Most vaccines require multiple vaccinations to be effective, and most of them reduce in effect over time.

No-one "changed the purpose of a vaccine", just for the COVID-19 vaccines.

All roads lead to the vaccine brother. They want to jab everyone including kids who don’t get sick. Why that is is anyones guess.

Covid 19 Delta: Child under 10 becomes NZ's youngest Covid-19 death - NZ Herald

I wonder?

This is the first disease in my lifetime where the early treatment is no treatment at all. Telling people to go home and if they get severe symptoms they can return to the hospital. By that time it is too late.

There are stacks of diseases where there has been no early treatment (other than, sometimes, vaccination). Polio, Measles, RSV, Pertussis, Flu, Cancers, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, the list goes on...

Also, monoclonal antibodies are recommended by the FDA for early treatment of COVID-19.

FDA Expands Authorization of Two Monoclonal Antibodies for Treatment and Post-Exposure Prevention of COVID-19 to Younger Pediatric Patients, Including Newborns

Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquin are impactful in early outpatient treatment to prevent hospitalization in the first place. They are not impactful for impatient care because you have allowed the virus take a stranglehold on the body and continue replication for 14 days.

That is untrue. Real-world clinical studies (rather than in-vitro ones) have shown that HQC actually makes people sicker with COVID-19 (as may be deduced by its ACE2 inhibitory action).

Hydroxychloroquine in patients with novel coronavirus infection (COVID-19): a case-control study

Safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine for treatment of non-severe COVID-19 among adults in Uganda: a randomized open label phase II clinical trial

An Update: Is hydroxychloroquine effective for COVID-19? - Drugs.com

Hospitalization is a death sentence that can be avoided.

Now we begin to get the propagandist BS.

In first world countries, people with COVID-19 and who die from it, are likely to be hospitalized as their conditions worsen, and very few die at home. Does this mean that the hospitalization caused the death, or that the disease is the actual killer?

I know someone from Fiji who was unable to get into hospital due to it being already overloaded, and he died of COVID-19 at home. That is because the disease is the deadly thing - not the hospitals.

So to say that hospitalization is a death sentence (when it just isn't) is an outrageous lie, especially considering the number of recoveries from severe COVID-19 that would not have been recoveries if medical aid had not been given in a hospital.

The Dr is 100% correct and provides sources for everything he claims.

Well, he claims that HQC is an effective treatment, despite multiple clinical trials that show no significant positive effect, and a number that show that it made COVID-19 worse. The weight of the results of those clinical trials are such that no regulatory authority is advocating its use for COVID-19.

So, that is at least one case where Dr McCullough is not 100% correct.

a reply to: chr0naut

Covid 19 Delta: Child under 10 becomes NZ's youngest Covid-19 death - NZ Herald

I wonder?
from your link what do you wonder?

Recorded Covid deaths include all cases where a person was classified as having an active case of the virus at the time of death. In some of these cases, the underlying cause of death may have been unrelated to COVID-19.

It is not clear if the child, believed to be a Māori boy from Counties Manukau, had any underlying medical conditions that may have contributed to his death.

originally posted by: samuelsson
a reply to: chr0naut

I find it lazy when people throw the shill card in the ring but bruhh, you're either delusional, shilling or to deeply invested in this vax game to see the forest for the trees.

Making a retard of yourself in this thread to be honest.

And you seem intelligent enough.

Lovely seeing other posters argue about the subject, when they havent even watched the interview.

I felt rogan was going to deep into lalal land, when demi lovato came on but damn, this is the best interview of the year.. by far.

You don't seem to credit the politicization of the issue (which has nothing to do with the medicine).

Donald Trump, while he was President, said several things that promoted HQC as useful against COVID-19. At the time, the only major study on the use of Chloroquine (more toxic than hydroxychloroquine) as an antiviral, was a 2005 study in its use against SARS related viruses in-vitro.

This mention by Donald Trump polarized many of his supporters into exaggerating his claims, despite the FDA, CDC, and AMA only going as far as to suggest that trials should be conducted. The FDA did issue an EUA authority for those trials, one of which was run by Dr McCullough, but as a result of the general consensus of numerous clinical trials, the FDA cancelled the EUA and updated is notification about HQC saying that it was not authorized for use against COVID-19.

Despite this, there remains a campaign of misinformation that continues to promote HQC (and now Ivermectin, and some other proven ineffective protocols, too) and assert that 'the government is lying' (despite that government being the one under Trump's term of office, so he was ultimately responsible for it).

Warp-Speed was a Trump government initiative for funding, and promoting EUA's of vaccines. Trump said to 'get vaccinated'. Yet the trump supporters are now seen as anti-lockdown, anti-mask, plandemic proclaiming, and anti-vax. And their opposition has nothing to do with the medicine - it is seen as an ideological issue.