Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor says a FETUS is the same as a BRAIN-DEAD Person.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Firstly, I never said anything about limiting abortions in rape cases. I pointed out an issue when rape is the only possible way to get an abortion. Please try to keep up.

Secondly, it is not some "far out scenario I dreamed up." It's happened quite a few times. Whether you choose to ignore that issue or not is your problem. The only effect it has on me is in deciding whether you are sincere or not.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Ghostsdogood

I'm just saying, if the state is going to require a woman to carry to term even if she did everything right to prevent a pregnancy then the state should foot the bill for all the costs associated with carrying the child to term.

I don't think that sounds unreasonable.

What lunacy.

The state is not forcing anyone to do anything.

Except adhere to fascist democrat covid mandates.

Call me when the state starts forcing abortions on poor people.

Until then your language is deceptive and dishonest democrat propaganda that just makes you look like a paid political troll.



BTW - Forced abortions for blacks was once what the democrat party demanded.

Hitler thought it was such a great idea that he copied on a massive scale.

Look it up.

Your words are offensive to everyone who managed survive what happened as a result of the democrat party's previous abortion demands.

Including myself.

(Through my grandmother)

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Not sure how you got mens rights out of that. Pretty sure I called Dad a loser.

Heres the thing, loser men dont take sexual responsibility. Their big head says, she can get an abortion, because that is what his little head wants to hear. So he takes risks instead of responsibilities.

She wants him to love her, since daddy left mom and no male loves her, so she thinks, well, if I get preggers and he leaves me, I can get an abortion or a check. And the party is on like Donkey Kong.

This is pretty much what happens now. Its what all ya’ll feminists wanted!

a reply to: Xcalibur254

God, it's terrible to be poor and so stupid! I wonder how on earth we managed to do all that stuff when we were on a limited income of about 25K/year ... because we somehow did.

PS -

This is what we're arguing about having the right to arbitrarily terminate:

a reply to: ketsuko

$25,000 is a limited income?? When was this?
I hope rather recently or this is laughable. I think maybe there was one year we reached that high of an income and it took both of us working and I was working sometime 50 hours a week or more. I know inflation has been a pain the last decade or so, but to make that income equitable to the limited income we were used to, the inflation rate would have to have been close to 100%.

Cute pic by the way... find one of a tiny 15 week newborn snuggled in his incubator, or 6 week, or heck.. ohio has a law in the process making it at the time of fertilization... have any pics of a fertilized egg all nice and comfy in an incubator?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ketsuko

Cute pic by the way... find one of a tiny 15 week newborn snuggled in his incubator, or 6 week, or heck.. ohio has a law in the process making it at the time of fertilization... have any pics of a fertilized egg all nice and comfy in an incubator?

Is this supposed to be an attempt at humor?

It didn't work as intended.

But was expected from democrats.

The 21 week photo probably causes a good of brain pain for the democrats who still have some small shred of a conscious.

Are you one of that group, or no conscious at all?

a reply to: dawnstar

An annual income? Yes, it is. I didn't say poverty. I said limited. And he was making about 20K, and I was part-time minimum, so I was being generous.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ketsuko

$25,000 is a limited income??

Are you not aware that 2 full time minimum wage incomes would significantly exceed 25,000 today?

And that is BEFORE the recent increases.

Are you attempting to deceive people here again?


Think nobody would notice?

Please try harder next time.

a reply to: ketsuko

Little Richard Hutchinson is the property of GOD.

Anybody who kills these unborn children has to answer to their creator....GOD.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko

Little Richard Hutchinson is the property of GOD.

Anybody who kills these unborn children has to answer to their creator....GOD.

Lots of Democrats are shaking in their boots.

Ok, maybe 2 or 3 of them.

The rest don't appear to care.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6


Sonia Sotomayor sounds like she's as intelligent and sensible as a fetus.

No, she is as intelligent and sensible as a dead person... Unborn humans are 1,000 times more intelligent and more sensible than she is...

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: burdman30ott6


Sonia Sotomayor sounds like she's as intelligent and sensible as a fetus.

No, she is as intelligent and sensible as a Dead Person... Unborn humans are 1,000 times more intelligent and more sensible than she is...

Unfortunately, she is actually VERY intelligent.

Even more unfortunately, she uses that intelligence in VERY wicked ways.

Supporting Democrat causes by any means necessary, and without regard to the law.

Don't ever underestimate this one, she only plays dumb.

She is actually an extremely vicious predator.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254

The abortion rate among low-income individuals actually dropped by 26% (25% overall) following Obamacare getting passed. Which would seem to indicate that when birth control is made more accessible abortion rates decline.

If you or any woman want birth control then you, that woman, and the man she had sex with should be the ones paying the bills... Forcing others who don't want to cover the "birth control and/or abortions" of strangers is tyranny....

If you want you are more than welcome to give women 100% of your paycheck so they can pay their "birth control and abortions." For those of us that don't want to be forced to fund this sort of tyranny we really don't care what you think, or what those women/men think.

Those people whom are in favor of forcing everyone to pay the cost of "birth controls, or/and abortions" should be the ones paying 100% of those bills...

So go ahead, and give 100% of your paycheck to fund "birth control and abortions of strangers."

a reply to: Ghostsdogood

She is "very intelligent" if you are the typical pro-abortion person. But in reality she is not that intelligent when her argument is to claim a human being which science states is alive is a dead person in her eyes...

Although i am not in favor of animal cruelty, if we were to in fact use her line of reasoning to claim that if what she says is true then it would mean that ALL animal fetus must then also be dead so killing them cruelly shouldn't be a crime... I bet you that we would see her and the die-hards pro-abortionists that claim that unborn humans are "like cancer cells and are not alive" would be crying and proclaiming to the whole world that we want to cruelly kill all animals...

originally posted by: Ghostsdogood

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: ketsuko

Little Richard Hutchinson is the property of GOD.

Anybody who kills these unborn children has to answer to their creator....GOD.

Lots of Democrats are shaking in their boots.

Ok, maybe 2 or 3 of them.

The rest don't appear to care.

The vast majority of pro-abortionists can't see a living child born just 21 weeks after conception, and at not change their mind, if they thought killing a 21 week-old fetus was OK.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Ghostsdogood

She is "very intelligent" if you are the typical pro-abortion person. But in reality she is not that intelligent when her argument is to claim a human being which science states is alive is a dead person...

I suspect she doesn't have a conscious.

None.

Not kidding or making fun of her.

Is a serious concern, and I have anecdotal 'evidence' that can't be discussed here.


She is wicked smart. I'd guess around 170-180 IQ. Her personality on the bench right now is an absolute joke.

I don't like a SINGLE thing about her, and that has nothing to do with evil democrat policies.

Don't ever underestimate this one.

This is an actual warning from someone in her distant past.

Never trust her on anything.

She will eventually weasel herself into the chief justice role, and then bombs away.

Just wait till you see it.

It won't take as long as most think.

You'll know.

a reply to: Ghostsdogood
No, irratation.. around 1% of abortions occur at 21 weeks or after while over 90% occur at 13 weeks or less. Meanwhile, the idea that pregnancy can cause permanent, life altering physical damage for some women or death, well that is so rare, we shouldn't have to consider that!!
That people don't agree precisely when viability is shouldnt be used as an excuse to just toss roe out the window.. no one can claim that 90% of the abortions are anywhere near that viability point.
Yes, there are two lives involved..
One has a life, out here in our world. With emotional bonds to family, to children, to friends, bosses, and coworkers. With responsibilities to all of them.
The other, well,
Conception?? Well no one knows of its existence including it. I would call it a him or her but at this point no sex organs are formed and no way really to get a glance of its dna. But, ya, let's keep bringing up all this neat birth control asserting it makes abortions unnecessary while we push to make that the point that should be recognized... we just won't tell them till after that hey, all of your favorite borth control is infringing on the little fertilized eggs right to life and has to go!! I am sorry but if weighing the interest of the women, with all her bonds in the world, all her responsibilities against a fertilized egg... I think her interests wins out.
The 6-7 week point?? Maybe the mother might suspect she is pregnant.. but then maybe not. Women's cycles are fickle. For some they just arent that regular. And even for those who do tend to have regular cycles, they can be easily thrown off. If you get a group of women together on a regular basis, like an office, their cycles will tend to try to sync up. Stress and drugs can throw it off. And I am sure other things will.. so. There is a good chance that at the 7 week point, the women doesn't know they are pregnant... it is the same as the conceived egg... no one probably knows of its existence there is no bonds formed...

The quickening may be felt as early as the 16th week. For me, that was the emotional bond began to take hold with me. It was a real thing, a little babies foot just ran across my stomach. Before then, ya, it was there. I knew it was there, but feeling the movement made it so much more real... so, I am gonna say that maybe by 15 weeks there are emotional bonds and that changes the dynamics alot, at least in my view. It is somebody, in my mind it was developing a personality although that personality may have been just a figment of my imagination. My oldest son was close to 10 months before he was born. The dr had asked me if I wanted to induce and in reply I asked him if there was a danger in just waiting.. there wasn't, he was healthy I was ok... so no, I just knew he wasn't ready, he wanted more time, he would let us know when he was ready. Well he let me know with one good kick that broke him out of his protective sack. Whenever that bond if formed between the mother and the fetus is when the fetus becomes a baby.. but that is just my opinion and I fully realize that in some women... that bond may never form. Is a conceived egg alive, yes... but I don't think it is a person. It just is...no one bonded to it, it not bonded to anyone, no emotion, no ties, just a sleeping egg not able to wake up yet and think I am!!

a reply to: Ghostsdogood

9 an hour... what my hubby earned, times 40, times 52....$18,720... take out taxes... probably about 12,000... for a good part of the time my kids were kids... 9 an hour was about what he made and my son had asthma when he was young and was often sick so I couldn't be dependable at work so I didn't work.. eventually, he earned more and we did better when we were both working. But then, I was shelling out alot of my earnings for medical care so I could continue working...

a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Ya, well speaking as someone who was left going nus trying to scrape up a $2000 dollar down payment for a surgery so I could walk while our money was taken to be used so my neighbors could run her kid to the doctor everytime she had a runny nose and keep her windows wide open in the middle of a ny winter to air the house out because well...she didn't have to worry about her electric bill...
Have to tell ya... I feel that way about all medical care!!
Birth control allows for families to plan the births of their babies, space them out. That gives moms a chance to recover and build up her nutrient levels. It has been found that low iron levels in mothers increase the risk of certain birth defects and lead to healthier babies. Healthier babies means less drain on the social service system which could mean less money out of your pockets if the loons in Washington and state govts would pass that savings down to us instead of just looking at their pot of gold and coming up with more crap to waste it on!!

Sorry friend all of our CHOICES are being taken away, look around you.

a reply to: marg6043