Stop using the term 'Anti Vaxx'

a reply to: daskakik

Actually a legal move in many sports.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
True but apparently not on ATS:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: shaemac
I will repeat again.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD.

You cannot change what the word WOMAN or MAN means.
You cannot change what the word VACCINE means.

You cannot change the definition of words to fit your own f'd up narrative.

PICK A NEW WORD.

These injections are NOT vaccinations. They do NOT contain dead or living organisms of the virus.

The Tetanus and Diphtheria vaccines are toxoid vaccines and would not fall under that old definition (they do not contain dead or living organisms of the virus). We have had these toxoid vaccines since 1920's, so that dictionary must be quite old, or just plain inaccurate.

Similarly, conjugate vaccines, like the Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine, are not included under that definition. Nor are dendritic cell vaccines, T-Cell peptide vaccines, recombinant vector vaccines, or other synthetic vaccines.

It would be foolish to ignore new technologies and scientific discoveries in regard to vaccines, based entirely on some outdated word definition!

Vaccine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac
I will repeat again.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD.

You cannot change what the word WOMAN or MAN means.
You cannot change what the word VACCINE means.

You cannot change the definition of words to fit your own f'd up narrative.

PICK A NEW WORD.

These injections are NOT vaccinations. They do NOT contain dead or living organisms of the virus.

The Tetanus and Diphtheria vaccines are toxoid vaccines and would not fall under that old definition (they do not contain dead or living organisms of the virus). We have had these toxoid vaccines since 1920's, so that dictionary must be quite old, or just plain inaccurate.

Similarly, conjugate vaccines, like the Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine, are not included under that definition. Nor are dendritic cell vaccines, T-Cell peptide vaccines, recombinant vector vaccines, or other synthetic vaccines.

It would be foolish to ignore new technologies and scientific discoveries in regard to vaccines, based entirely on some outdated word definition!

Vaccine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Using Wikipedia as a source? LMAO

You are saying that a Merriam Webster Dictionary from 2003 is old an inaccurate? LMAO

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac
I will repeat again.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD.

You cannot change what the word WOMAN or MAN means.
You cannot change what the word VACCINE means.

You cannot change the definition of words to fit your own f'd up narrative.

PICK A NEW WORD.

These injections are NOT vaccinations. They do NOT contain dead or living organisms of the virus.

The Tetanus and Diphtheria vaccines are toxoid vaccines and would not fall under that old definition (they do not contain dead or living organisms of the virus). We have had these toxoid vaccines since 1920's, so that dictionary must be quite old, or just plain inaccurate.

Similarly, conjugate vaccines, like the Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine, are not included under that definition. Nor are dendritic cell vaccines, T-Cell peptide vaccines, recombinant vector vaccines, or other synthetic vaccines.

It would be foolish to ignore new technologies and scientific discoveries in regard to vaccines, based entirely on some outdated word definition!

Vaccine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Using Wikipedia as a source? LMAO

You are saying that a Merriam Webster Dictionary from 2003 is old an inaccurate? LMAO

Yeah, I guess that is what I am saying.

Also, wouldn't posting pictures of the dictionary in a public forum, be contrary to the boilerplate at the bottom of that page? No doubt, you secured the permission of the publisher before doing so?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

Some folks are anti-vaxx in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
And some folks are anti- fact in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
The latter cannot make up their own minds so therefore they have to rely on government , the media , and their neighbors to tell them what to do .

Anti vaxers are anti fact. It's kind of their thing .

You can make up your own mind but you don't get to make up your own facts . Something anti vaxers seem to have an issue with.

One has to look at facts from both sides and make a decision .
Not just listen to the folks mentioned.

Help Deny Ignorance .
Become informed .

Listening to facts is good. The facts are extremely clear in favour of vaccination.

What anti vaxers are selling isn't facts.

Then you haven't spent enough time in research .

Believing fact free bitchute videos and anti vax bull# isn't research.

Never been on bitchute in my entire life. I have many questions and concerns about this specific experimental drug. Maybe you should be asking yourself why you’re so triggered by a website?

My dyslexia kicked in and I thought your name read “septic,” which is far more fitting based upon your unnecessarily condescending posts. It’s clear you aren’t interested in having an honest discussion about this topic, nor are you willing to leave your trench. Are you only here to take out your anger on interwebz people?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: ScepticScot

What anti vaxers are selling isn't facts.

There is only one group of people selling anything in this situation and they are raking in billions of dollars with no repercussions if they hurt people.

You might want to ask Alex Jones and co about those supplements tat they're pushing while you're at it.

I haven't seen anything from Alex Jones since YouTube punted him off their platform.

Is he making billions of dollars from his supplements now?

If so, good for him.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Something, something, something ... calling a spade a spade?

Ridiculous. Bury you head in the ground all you want but speaking like this makes you look like an absolute fool. Can’t even be bothered to formulate any viable argument with or against, just “neer neer” sh*t. Pathetic.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Does that make us anti Anti-Vaxx™ ?


My aunt is anti Anti-Vaxx™ .


Auntie Annie the anti Anti-Vaxx ant farmer.

originally posted by: LetTheColdCome

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Not everyone who choses not to get vaccinated is anti vax .

However its a convenient shorthand for those who post lies, misinformation and completely made bollocks about vaccines.

Since there are plenty of those in this site I will continue to use the term, thanks all the same.

Some folks are anti-vaxx in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
And some folks are anti- fact in respect to the experimental Covid vax .
The latter cannot make up their own minds so therefore they have to rely on government , the media , and their neighbors to tell them what to do .

Anti vaxers are anti fact. It's kind of their thing .

You can make up your own mind but you don't get to make up your own facts . Something anti vaxers seem to have an issue with.

One has to look at facts from both sides and make a decision .
Not just listen to the folks mentioned.

Help Deny Ignorance .
Become informed .

Listening to facts is good. The facts are extremely clear in favour of vaccination.

What anti vaxers are selling isn't facts.

Then you haven't spent enough time in research .

Believing fact free bitchute videos and anti vax bull# isn't research.

Never been on bitchute in my entire life. I have many questions and concerns about this specific experimental drug. Maybe you should be asking yourself why you’re so triggered by a website?

My dyslexia kicked in and I thought your name read “septic,” which is far more fitting based upon your unnecessarily condescending posts. It’s clear you aren’t interested in having an honest discussion about this topic, nor are you willing to leave your trench. Are you only here to take out your anger on interwebz people?

The topic is the term anti vax.

I have already covered why it's an appropriate description. You can't have an honest discussion with anti vaxers as lying is what they do.

The better question is why are you triggered by the expression anti vaxer unless you are one?

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: shaemac

The definition of vaccine was changed.

The current lexicon of the word vaccine actually encompasses the use,efficacy and results of the current Covid-19 vaccine.

Get with the program.

No thank you.

I'll pass.

Words matter.

originally posted by: NightCall

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Something, something, something ... calling a spade a spade?

Ridiculous. Bury you head in the ground all you want but speaking like this makes you look like an absolute fool. Can’t even be bothered to formulate any viable argument with or against, just “neer neer” sh*t. Pathetic.

You might have a valid argument if it weren't for the fact that the anti-vaxxers are literally anti-vaccine.

You only need to look at the constantly changing goalposts to see this. They come up with one argument after another, pushing deeper and deer into semantics and hair splitting in order to try to make their views seem valid.

It's too rushed
it's not FDA approved
It only has emergency approval
It's not had a sufficient post approval period
it's not 100% effective
it's less effective against X variant
It's putting money in big pharma's pockets

And that's not withstanding all of the hoaxes like it making you magnetic, or it causing people sitting next to you to have miscarriages.

There are typically two types of people who choose not to get the shot. People who oppose shots in general, and people who have been terrified into not getting the shot by the first type of people.

originally posted by: Riffrafter

originally posted by: litterbaux
a reply to: shaemac

The definition of vaccine was changed.

The current lexicon of the word vaccine actually encompasses the use,efficacy and results of the current Covid-19 vaccine.

Get with the program.

No thank you.

I'll pass.

Words matter.

Context is more important.

For example, when was the last time you heard the word "inoculation"?

It's not really used any more, people simply use the word vaccination instead, it might not be accurate, but the meaning holds because of the context in which it's used.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Take a look at the UK.

Take a look at the UK ........non covid deaths rising in the UK.

But since the summer, the number of excess deaths has been climbing steadily, triggering a third phase. The figures not only show Covid deaths but also non-Covid deaths, which since early July have been higher than the weekly average for the five years leading up to the pandemic.

Paul Hunter, professor in medicine at Norwich Medical School, said he had initially suspected the excess deaths in recent months might have been caused by a return of respiratory viruses, such as flu, but data suggest that cardiovascular disease and strokes were the most prominent conditions contributing to the unexpectedly high mortality levels.

UK enters wave of excess deaths not fully explained by Covid
www.ft.com...

Here is another link:
Unexplained surge in non-Covid deaths triggers calls for probe | The Week UK
www.theweek.co.uk...

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shaemac
I will repeat again.

YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD.

You cannot change what the word WOMAN or MAN means.
You cannot change what the word VACCINE means.

You cannot change the definition of words to fit your own f'd up narrative.

PICK A NEW WORD.

These injections are NOT vaccinations. They do NOT contain dead or living organisms of the virus.

The Tetanus and Diphtheria vaccines are toxoid vaccines and would not fall under that old definition (they do not contain dead or living organisms of the virus). We have had these toxoid vaccines since 1920's, so that dictionary must be quite old, or just plain inaccurate.

Similarly, conjugate vaccines, like the Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine, are not included under that definition. Nor are dendritic cell vaccines, T-Cell peptide vaccines, recombinant vector vaccines, or other synthetic vaccines.

It would be foolish to ignore new technologies and scientific discoveries in regard to vaccines, based entirely on some outdated word definition!

Vaccine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Using Wikipedia as a source? LMAO

You are saying that a Merriam Webster Dictionary from 2003 is old an inaccurate? LMAO

Yeah, I guess that is what I am saying.

Also, wouldn't posting pictures of the dictionary in a public forum, be contrary to the boilerplate at the bottom of that page? No doubt, you secured the permission of the publisher before doing so?

It definitely falls into the "fair use" category.

Also, the page he posted had the Trademark info for them anyway...lol

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Too funny so the vaccines, which began being administered in Dec of 2020 has shown zero decrease in our infection and death rates...wait in fact the have gone up and you think that the vaccines are working...
Oh boy, how do you function each day?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
The year is not even over yet...get your head out of your ass.The vaccines started being administered in December of 2020

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

The actual research overwhelmingly shows the benefits of vaccination. Claiming otherwise is the lie.

Riddle me this batman;
Why have there been more deaths from covid-19 in 2021 with the vaccine roll-out (free donuts and gift cards)
Than in 2020 without a vaccine?

Que the jeopardy music....

a reply to: ScepticScot

Because the virus wasn't here around for the full year in 2020, and certainly not as well spread.

Stricter restrictions in 2020.

Vaccine roll out takes time so well in to 2021 before the majority vaccinated.

Not really much of a riddle.

Started yes.

Saying that changes absolutely nothing about my post.

Not true here in the UK.

I'd post the figures but you won't accept them so I won't bother.

Alarm grows as mortuaries fill with thousands of extra non-Covid deaths
www.telegraph.co.uk...

I can only say that i agree with every single word in your OP.

It's a term created by the propaganda machine to create more division..

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Too funny so the vaccines, which began being administered in Dec of 2020 has shown zero decrease in our infection and death rates...wait in fact the have gone up and you think that the vaccines are working...
Oh boy, how do you function each day?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
The year is not even over yet...get your head out of your ass.The vaccines started being administered in December of 2020

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

The actual research overwhelmingly shows the benefits of vaccination. Claiming otherwise is the lie.

Riddle me this batman;
Why have there been more deaths from covid-19 in 2021 with the vaccine roll-out (free donuts and gift cards)
Than in 2020 without a vaccine?

Que the jeopardy music....

a reply to: ScepticScot

Because the virus wasn't here around for the full year in 2020, and certainly not as well spread.

Stricter restrictions in 2020.

Vaccine roll out takes time so well in to 2021 before the majority vaccinated.

Not really much of a riddle.

Started yes.

Saying that changes absolutely nothing about my post.

Not true here in the UK.

I'd post the figures but you won't accept them so I won't bother.

Alarm grows as mortuaries fill with thousands of extra non-Covid deaths
www.telegraph.co.uk...

"




"Fears are growing that NHS delays at the height of the pandemic left large numbers of people with previously treatable conditions suffering illnesses that have now become fatal."

This is the explanation, from your own link.

What is going on?
www.thegatewaypundit.com...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
Too funny so the vaccines, which began being administered in Dec of 2020 has shown zero decrease in our infection and death rates...wait in fact the have gone up and you think that the vaccines are working...
Oh boy, how do you function each day?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe
The year is not even over yet...get your head out of your ass.The vaccines started being administered in December of 2020

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: fringeofthefringe

The actual research overwhelmingly shows the benefits of vaccination. Claiming otherwise is the lie.

Riddle me this batman;
Why have there been more deaths from covid-19 in 2021 with the vaccine roll-out (free donuts and gift cards)
Than in 2020 without a vaccine?

Que the jeopardy music....

a reply to: ScepticScot

Because the virus wasn't here around for the full year in 2020, and certainly not as well spread.

Stricter restrictions in 2020.

Vaccine roll out takes time so well in to 2021 before the majority vaccinated.

Not really much of a riddle.

Started yes.

Saying that changes absolutely nothing about my post.

Not true here in the UK.

I'd post the figures but you won't accept them so I won't bother.

Alarm grows as mortuaries fill with thousands of extra non-Covid deaths
www.telegraph.co.uk...

a reply to: fringeofthefringe

Read the article.