The Ancient Egyptian Stones Were Perfectly Precise How is this Possible? Many Qs Little Answers

originally posted by: Byrd
a reply to: Hanslune

Thank you! I was too lazy to look up the map.

Most everything is close to Nile in Egypt well until you go west or east! I always tried to go to Hurghada when I could.

Sorry, wrong forum.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

originally posted by: Hanslune


I walked thru it twice once when it was blistering hot the next time I was able to spend more time looking at the various aspects of it, especially the abandoned pieces left in out of the way places. But I did so with an Egyptologist girlfriend. I remember her quite well but not the deluge of information she provided - sorry I broke the sacred vow of the archaeologist; pottery and rocks uber alles.

I guess the climate could have been different back then? Does it perhaps get cooler during spring/fall?


But just the fact its so blistering hot there (and everyone who goes there and talks about it seems to agree on this.) It makes it hard to imagine how they would have been able to use such a labor intensive method?

Just the logistics, of getting enough water to the site, so the men don't die of heat stroke, would be harder than the actual work the men themselves are doing. Bringing big jugs of water over how much distance? In horse drawn chariot? On horse back? Camel back, I guess?

In the modern world, using trucks, it would be hard.

the animals would need water too.


it would need to be clean drinking water, not marsh water.

a reply to: sarahvital
They drank a weak beer. The fermentation process kills the stuff in water that will harm you.
That's why making beer became so very important in the ancient world.

It was only fairly recently that water became easily accessible and safe to drink.
Nobody drinks from the Nile today. Even the AE's knew better.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: sarahvital
They drank a weak beer. The fermentation process kills the stuff in water that will harm you.
That's why making beer became so very important in the ancient world.

It was only fairly recently that water became easily accessible and safe to drink.
Nobody drinks from the Nile today. Even the AE's knew better.

Harte

Was that Khufuweiser?

originally posted by: Hanslune


Was that Khufuweiser?

An exquivalent in the time of Menkaure might explain the aper called "The Drunks of Menkaure" ...

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: sarahvital
They drank a weak beer. The fermentation process kills the stuff in water that will harm you.
That's why making beer became so very important in the ancient world.

It was only fairly recently that water became easily accessible and safe to drink.
Nobody drinks from the Nile today. Even the AE's knew better.

Harte

Was that Khufuweiser?

No.
Menkaurelob Light.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Harte
a reply to: sarahvital
They drank a weak beer. The fermentation process kills the stuff in water that will harm you.
That's why making beer became so very important in the ancient world.

It was only fairly recently that water became easily accessible and safe to drink.
Nobody drinks from the Nile today. Even the AE's knew better.

Harte

Was that Khufuweiser?

No.
Menkaurelob Light.

Harte

Yuck that I hear is pure sphinx piss

a reply to: Harte

I live in phoenix AZ and there is no near beer on planet earth that is going to rehydrate man or animal
in 110 degree heat
what, are you going to give to the animals ,.. beer
there had to be a fresh source of drinking water somewere

The most important thing that must be taken care of ,. would be how to get rid of
the human and animal waste
and until you can find where they put all of it and how mutch
time and manpower it took to to do that everything that has
been said on this is just complete nonsense

The DDC

originally posted by: AlanBChrist
a reply to: Harte

I live in phoenix AZ and there is no near beer on planet earth that is going to rehydrate man or animal
in 110 degree heat
what, are you going to give to the animals ,.. beer
there had to be a fresh source of drinking water somewere

The most important thing that must be taken care of ,. would be how to get rid of
the human and animal waste
and until you can find where they put all of it and how mutch
time and manpower it took to to do that everything that has
been said on this is just complete nonsense

The DDC

They used the Nile River. It's HUGE, so the amount of animal and human waste would have been inconsequential to the ecosystem back then.

Everybody lived right next to the river (walking distance) and they had wells and canals.

They didn't know as much about health and sanitation as we do, so yes there was a lot of disease. Half the kids died before they were 10 years old.

And yes, everybody drank beer. Archaeologists have found tablets with recipes (here is one from a museum that worked with a craft brewer to reconstruct what a pharaoh drank) -- in fact, drinking beer was quite common for everyone (including kids) in Europe and many other areas of the world.

originally posted by: AlanBChrist
a reply to: Harte

I live in phoenix AZ and there is no near beer on planet earth that is going to rehydrate man or animal
in 110 degree heat
what, are you going to give to the animals ,.. beer
there had to be a fresh source of drinking water somewere

The most important thing that must be taken care of ,. would be how to get rid of
the human and animal waste
and until you can find where they put all of it and how mutch
time and manpower it took to to do that everything that has
been said on this is just complete nonsense

The DDC

Just a blowhard then, making pronouncements about a culture you have never even bothered to look at.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: AlanBChrist
a reply to: Harte

I live in phoenix AZ and there is no near beer on planet earth that is going to rehydrate man or animal
in 110 degree heat
what, are you going to give to the animals ,.. beer
there had to be a fresh source of drinking water somewere

The most important thing that must be taken care of ,. would be how to get rid of
the human and animal waste
and until you can find where they put all of it and how mutch
time and manpower it took to to do that everything that has
been said on this is just complete nonsense

The DDC

Just a blowhard then, making pronouncements about a culture you have never even bothered to look at.

Harte

He just desperately keeps trying to troll people. Terribly inept he has forgotten the first rule of being a successful troll. Don't ACT like an obvious troll.

a reply to: Harte

Well acording to you these pepole ,
drew water from a river of human and animal waste to make beer
to give the workers and animal that would only make
the problem worse...

why would I want to study that culture again?

The DDC

Anything can rehydrate you if you mix water into it.

Aswan is not only near the Nile, but also near a lake that forms in the Nile. (Which is why they built the "Aswan Dam" there).

Anytime you're near a lake, there are going to be some underwater rivers forming to help drain it. So there should be wells within close enough distance to transport water to the workers. Previously I hadn't known this, and assumed water was being carried from many kilometers away,.... which would be ludicrous.

originally posted by: AlanBChrist
a reply to: Harte

Well acording to you these pepole ,
drew water from a river of human and animal waste to make beer
to give the workers and animal that would only make
the problem worse...

why would I want to study that culture again?

The DDC

Yes.

And in fact, EVERY culture drew water from rivers with human and animal waste.

For pete's sake...what do you think fish do in the water? And hippos? And crocodiles? And what did you think happens to all the dog poop and deer poop and raccoon poop (they do defecate) from the woodlands?

I'm sure you didn't stop to think about it (just like you probably haven't thought about what happens to all the dog poop that's not picked up off lawns and parks - answer: it ends up in our drinking water and is getting more and more expensive to clean (along with cigarette butts, dirty diapers, etc, etc.)

And yeah, we make beer with that stuff today. The "mountain spring" bit for water/etc is simply marketing.

a reply to: Byrd

Will drinking beer rehydrate a person working under the sun in 100+
degree heat,,,

YES OR NO

The DDC

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Let use know when you find out what anything would mean back then

a reply to: Harte

So what your saying is

You are not going to answer the question becouse the DDC is correct

The DDC

a reply to: Hanslune

Yes Yes we have heard it before the DDC is some kind of Troll
The DDC cares not about this trolling,,.

But understands that if you would answer the questions, the DDC would no longer
be considered a troll by you

The DDC

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: AlanBChrist
a reply to: Harte

I live in phoenix AZ and there is no near beer on planet earth that is going to rehydrate man or animal
in 110 degree heat
what, are you going to give to the animals ,.. beer
there had to be a fresh source of drinking water somewere

The most important thing that must be taken care of ,. would be how to get rid of
the human and animal waste
and until you can find where they put all of it and how mutch
time and manpower it took to to do that everything that has
been said on this is just complete nonsense

The DDC

They used the Nile River. It's HUGE, so the amount of animal and human waste would have been inconsequential to the ecosystem back then.

Everybody lived right next to the river (walking distance) and they had wells and canals.

They didn't know as much about health and sanitation as we do, so yes there was a lot of disease. Half the kids died before they were 10 years old.

And yes, everybody drank beer. Archaeologists have found tablets with recipes (here is one from a museum that worked with a craft brewer to reconstruct what a pharaoh drank) -- in fact, drinking beer was quite common for everyone (including kids) in Europe and many other areas of the world.

One thing I remember from being at a village on the East bank was that they had a well for ground water but would also gather up large earthenware jars and fill them with river water and place them in a shaded place for a few hours to let the sediment settle. Would add sometime something to kill aaa the ancient word for Schistosoma haematobium (bilharzia),. They used that for washing and uses where it was not consumed or touched the skin. Due to Islam real beer drinking is theoretically out fashion.....but a lot Birelli (non-alcoholic) beer is consumed along with fruit-flavored Fayrouz - which to my memory tastes like old stale kool aid.