Secretly Recorded - Pharma Officials Gravely Concerned About Covid-19 Vaccines LT Dangers.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: PaPaTaco

Wow love your post, you really got it together, and know what you are talking about, Is beyond me why the so called vaxed are soo afraid of the unvaxed, it most be some weird stuff in the china virus jab that is making people paranoid.

Were you being ironic or do you really think that?

Whatever happened to that nurse that got vac'd and passed out on tv? It's was during the early injection phase.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
I'm getting locked down because the unvaxxed are getting sick, I choose to be responsible and yet I still get treated the same as an anti vaxxer. Please tell me how this is OK?

awww...

why should we care? i don't know, ask your government or something? it's not us doing it to you. it's you. you're letting your government treat you like their property.

and if you think you have any right to expect someone to get vaccinated against covid, you better show us some peer-reviewed papers proving without any doubt the long-term safety of said vaccines... OR KINDLY SHOVE 'EM UP YOUR ASS.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: carewemust

Well they have all known that long term effects would be a thing. Why they try and lie about it is beyond me.... for example here is a quote from a Reuters article from JULY 2020! Yes. Way back in JULY 2020 about Astra Zeneca's liability protections...

“This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects,” Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra’s senior executive team, told Reuters.

www.reuters.com...

So that tells you right there they know it is possible and they have told us it is possible to have long term effects. In their own words. Why brainwashed people keep saying what Fauci says is beyond me. They are telling us right there what it is.

All that your doing here is looking for reason to avoid getting a shot and are grasping at straws.

Fear of the unknown is just desperation. The liberal media has filled your head with fear.

The truth is that the technology in the vax isn't new. It's a decade old, and the long term effects are well known. The mRNA pack in the shot decays at a predictable rate and once it's gone there isn't anything left to cause long term effects. After a month thing stop happening so any damage done is complete and won't be done any more.

He cant tell us the long term effects, because nobody knows..

MRNA is a decades old technology no doubt, but it has never been combined with the proprietary mixture for covid and used as a delivery system for a viral vaccine, at best we have hypotheticals.

That's just it, we understand the components and we known how they interact with other things so we can determine what is and isn't possible, let alone plausible.

For example, there is no ingredient or combination of ingredients in the shot that could spontaneously generate magnatism or cause graphine to form.

We know that mRNA can't alter your DNA. It physically lacks the components required to do that and no interaction with any other vax ingredients will cause it to suddenly evolve DNA altering abilities.

It's like in the movies where a computer virus transmitted from your WiFi causes your microwave oven to become intelligent and to start shooting lasers at you.

In real life your microwave doesn't have a cpu capable of running an advanced AI, or the storage capacity to hold the software required, or the materials required to build a functioning laser.

I don't need to spend ages researching the subject to prove that an AI powered microwave oven invasion cannot happen, yet this is what you are asking me to do?

Has anybody ever performed a trial to check if watching CNN will change the color of your roof tiles?

Do they need to?

We know enough about the vax to know that if it hasn't killed you after a couple of months then it won't ever kill you.

So science isn’t a constantly evolving field? K. Got it. Thx.

a reply to: tanstaafl

this is just a perfect example of something that you think you know that just ain't so.

Dude, please... I have survived eight, count 'em, eight heart attacks. One was when I had 100% blockage in my left ascending cardiac artery... 100%! As in, there was no blood flow to that part of my heart! I have a stent to remember that little experience by. I have also had quintuple open-heart bypass surgery. I am now disabled due to low blood flow from a damaged wall of my heart.

The solution? The doctors got my cholesterol down to a manageable level. Once that was done, I stopped having heart attacks. When it got down to good levels, my heart started healing. Still a long way to go on that, but at least it is slowly improving.

I know of which I speak on that subject very well, thank you very much. I lived it firsthand.

Now, perhaps inflammation can also cause clots... but in my case it was simply extremely high cholesterol. If you don't believe it, then I pray you never go through what I went through. It's a sucky way to learn a lesson.

More importantly, stop spreading the dangerous falsehood that high cholesterol is good for people. It's not just a lie, it is dangerous.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Thank you! I was going to mention the same thing.

The wording sounds like the estimate is based on known time periods for other proteins in the body... but this protein is not native to the body, right? So why would the body treat it like it was native, all while the body's own immune system recognizes it as alien?

As you say... we don't know. We don't even know if the spike protein produced is truly identical to the one on the virus. Remember protein folding? It could have the exact same chemical makeup and be folded differently. The prions responsible for mad cow disease were chemically identical to proteins native to the cows, but they were mis-folded.

To say we know the long-term effects is just silly and ignorant. We think we know; we may actually know; but we will not be sure we know until time has passed. I for one would like to be sure we know before I take the shot; once taken, a shot cannot be un-taken if problems crop up. There is no do-over.

TheRedneck

Hear hear. The question I have is this:

Why is this position that you’ve presented at the end of your reply so unreasonable to people? I really don’t get it. Time must pass before an informed decision can be made.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
I have also heard that the obese are at higher risk for complications than the non-obese. Cholesterol levels are somewhat correlated with obesity... not a 1:1 direct relationship, mind you (I happen to be a skinny fellow but my triglycerides peaked at over 500), but an obese person is more likely to have higher cholesterol.

So what? High cholesterol is not bad. In fact, the older you get the higher you want your cholesterol to be to remain in good health.

All of the science around cholesterol being bad is just ... bad science.

High cholesterol causes a tendency for blood clots to form (trust you me, I know that little bit of info all too well!).

No, it doesn't, and if you really believe this, this is just a perfect example of something that you think you know that just ain't so.

And please don't take offense - I've been there many, many times in the last 20 years.

Inflammation is the cause of CHD and/or arterial blockages.

So I am wondering if the biochemical tendency to form blood clots is not the common thread that determines who will or will not have adverse reactions?

If so, I know of two things that minimize blood clotting. The one I use is capsaicin... the stuff that makes hot peppers hot. Turns out it is actually curative for arterial plaque, but it also work very slowly... on the order of years of treatment to make a minor difference.

A high quality blend of enzymes and other factors (like nattokinase) will clean out your arteries fairly quickly (months, how many depends on how blocked you are).

The best one I've found by far is something called BBAC (Blockbuster AllClear).

The other is acetic acid, which makes up a good percentage of vinegar... especially apple cider vinegar. Now, that does NOT mean anyone should go drinking a gallon of vinegar a day! That in itself is dangerous. But a lot of foods do contain vinegar, such as dill pickles. A reasonable intake of acetic acid in vinegar may prevent blood clots from forming as easily, although there is no evidence it is curable for those which have already formed.

I have used the capsaicin, not in pill form, but just by indulging my natural affinity for all things fiery. I especially started that indulgence right after I found out just how bad my heart issues were. After a few years of capsaicin ingestion, one of the clots that was bypassed in my heart disappeared (although it also caused another small heart attack before it dissipated away).

But my point is that the key to who is and is not seriously affected may well be a person's tendency to form blood clots,

I don't disagree with this other than your belief that cholesterol has anything to do with it.

In my opinion, it is inflammation that is the largest high risk factor for not just COVID, but any disease/illness.

High cholesterol is not a bad thing?

That takes the prize for the biggest pile of steaming bovine excrement I have seen on here for a long, long time.

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originally posted by: AaarghZombies

Can you name me... 30 people who were killed by the vax?

No, no I can't; however, I can cite 11880 VAERS records that do. Not a number that I was actually looking for, but, you ask the question...so I looked. That is as of the most recent update to the datasets.

That works out to be 1.5% (or so) of all adverse events. That might indicate that IF you get the shot, and have an adverse event (highly probable), you have a 1.5% chance of dying from it.

But, that is just the latest "official" data.

a reply to: balanc3

I tend to believe covid is a vascular disease.

That is optimised to be well suited to adhering to the lung tissue at the ACE2 receptors.

That's close to what I was getting at. The virus tends to replicate in the lungs and airways, but it tends to cause the most damage in the bloodstream.

If they had an inhalable or nose spray vax

Well, I may have one for you. I'm 60 years old, disabled with heart failure, and haven't worn a mask yet. I can't; the low blood flow means any lack of oxygenation, even just a few points that doesn't harm anyone else, starves my body for oxygen. And I have yet to have a serious case of anything (although I do believe I may have had a minor case of the virus a while back).

My secret? Listerine! I use it quite regularly because it prevents infections form starting up in my mouth (got a couple teeth that like to get infected). I didn't start using it over the virus, but research has shown that the ingredients in Listerine destroy the virus almost on contact. Since the stuff is in my mouth every time I use it, and I tend to breathe after using it, I get a light mist into my lungs.

That's all it took for me to escape the virus. At least, that's what I believe. In any case, it certainly does no harm. We do have a few decades of real-life use on that.

TheRedneck

High cholesterol is a bad thing specially from the sources we get it this days, since the processed oils where created cholesterol just go worst no better, animal fat is not bad our bodies can deal with that, but more than cholesterol is the statin drugs, those are the biggest danger to us humans that many even think, it was a reason when statins were only to be used in extreme cases, but as usual big pharma made it for all including children for profit making.

We do need fat in our body specially our organs, including the brain, when you take away that with statins you increase the chances for Alzheimer.

I have high cholesterol but my good cholesterol is very high too, due to only using olive oil for cooking and never ever touching processed oils or vegetable oils.

And like everything some people are more predispose to increase cholesterol than others, but that is life and genetics.

No one knows what the long term side effects would or could be from the COVID vaccines and the booster shots..All we know is some people die from the Covid vaccine because they are allergic to it…good grief fellas..

originally posted by: Jobeycool
No one knows what the long term side effects would or could be from the COVID vaccines and the booster shots..All we know is some people die from the Covid vaccine because they are allergic to it…good grief fellas..

How many have died from the Vax out of how many billions who have had it?

Good grief fellas. People die. What's your connection to the Vax?

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: PaPaTaco

Wow love your post, you really got it together, and know what you are talking about, Is beyond me why the so called vaxed are soo afraid of the unvaxed, it most be some weird stuff in the china virus jab that is making people paranoid.

Well...I can't say I hear that everyday... (from the peanut gallery) You too must be in the know... (Me likey)

There is some Strange Brew inside the Boogey Flu for sure. I'm just shocked to see so many sleep walkers on ATS... This aint the place I remember from 15+ years ago. (I see you've been around this block a time or two)

a reply to: PaPaTaco

You have no idea what I have seen around all this years, but interestingly many just comes and goes with the times and the topics,



I always say that is not the virus is the crap that is injected people with the technology.

If ever was to be a real vaccine like the ones before this "technology" is been rammed up peoples rear ends I would not have a problem getting the real vaccine, but I am adamant to have a synthetic crap messing with my cells inside my body right now.

Time will tell

originally posted by: PaPaTaco

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: PaPaTaco

Wow love your post, you really got it together, and know what you are talking about, Is beyond me why the so called vaxed are soo afraid of the unvaxed, it most be some weird stuff in the china virus jab that is making people paranoid.

Well...I can't say I hear that everyday... (from the peanut gallery) You too must be in the know...

(Me likey)

There is some Strange Brew inside the Boogey Flu for sure. I'm just shocked to see so many sleep walkers on ATS... This aint the place I remember from 15+ years ago. (I see you've been around this block a time or two)

What is a "peanut gallery"?

Asking for a friend.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Given your particular medical condition, I recognize the hazard that wearing a mask presents to you.

Those mfs are stuffy!

Back to being on topic, I want to see a guarantee of responsibility and safety and liability by big pharma, but its looking to be guaranteed obscured by continued spread of covid towards an endemic status.

If the spread of covid miraculously stopped now, then there Could be a clear attribution of harm corresponding to vax usage that'll be shown in the future (or not).

But as its going, anti masking and getting back to things as before is gonna hide a lot of the evidence in the benefit of big pharma.

I think the revenue big Pharma is making should be withheld in a kind of escrow fund towards future treatments of vax damages and likely settlements to those that are and will be inevitably harmed by the vax.

a reply to: balanc3

In a world were pharma does not control government that would be the perfect way to do things, but when a wide amount of people starts to get sick and having life changing debilitating issue, the tax payer as usual will be footing the bill, while big pharma keep their profits and live in luxury.

They will not be held accountable.

a reply to: marg6043

Personally here at the Taco household... we stopped vaccinating 17 years ago... but this Juice that they are pushing on the piggies in a fence is some serious bad juju...

People must really not be paying attention or seriously labotimized by all the Booze, Porn and Fast Food they've been ingesting all these years to buy into the safety and efficacy of this Jim Jones kool-aid...