Conversation about the Texas Abortion Ban

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

I would submit viability is defined by the scientists and medical professionals who demonstrate what it is.

I submit that you're just pulling # out of your #.

Nope
Mayo science backs the texas bill.
Sorry that appears to make you salty.

originally posted by: GravitySucks
Sigh. Time to dust this one off again.

Lol
That is awesome.

a reply to: shooterbrody

It was examined with the casey/planned parenthood decision... not sure if I got the na m.j e right.
Where roe used the trimesters to decide when the govt could interfere with abortion rights, the casey/planned parenthood decision changed it to when the fetus is viable... can possibly survive out of the womb with medical intervention..
Sorry, sticking to my defination.
Which if a more fluid timeframe that can change as medical science developed better care for newborns and premature babies.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I used to think Texas was the best American state.
Cowboys, country music, guns, pick up trucks...A place where men can be men and women like them that way...

Now though?
Nah, it's a mess.
Government peeking into bedroom windows wanting a say in what people do.
Nosy grassing pillocks trying to snitch on people for looking after their own bodies.

Texas is a mess, too much government, too many snitches, too much bible bashing.

It is a joke of a place and somewhere I would never now wish to travel to and spend money.

Excellent
The master plan is working
Keep your friends away too!
TIA

Unlike texans, I'm quite happy for my friends to make their own minds up about stuff, I don't feel the need to force them to act how I want.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Mayo science backs the texas bill.

Catholic run MAYO Clinic says what?

a reply to: GravitySucks

Vigilantism!

I always knew that I wanted to do more to protect unborn babies. And now, thanks to the new law in Texas, there is a way I can.
...
Right there in our apartment parking lot I saw two women talking and one had her hand on her belly. I overheard the other one say, “I know a doctor who can help.” They must have been planning an abortion!
...

So I started looking in the dumpsters for the evidence. Sure enough, a week later, there it was, a bag of bloody maxi pads!
...
I decided to go straight to the experts and get help from Texas Right to Life.

I packed up the incriminating evidence, and sent it to them, along with a description of what I had overheard.

I am sure Texas Right to Life will appreciate my vigilance.

L OL

a reply to: dawnstar

Things have changed as far as rape is concered. Women are directed to take the morning-after pill. This just recently happened to a family friend and the counselor immediately suggested this. Things have changed from the 60s. So women are rarely getting abortions for rape it is very rare. However, having said that I do think the law needs to look into exceptions and one could argue if it went to court that would be the argument. No judge is going to force a rape victim to carry the child. So any lawsuit against the doctor would be dropped.

The Texas law relies on citizens suing abortion providers over alleged violations. So let's e honest the only people who know would be the woman and the doctor. So I don't think this is going to have the major impact people think it will. Even at 10 or 12, the doctor can lie.

What i can see happening is women asking permission from the court. Wait until those lawsuits start

a reply to: dragonridr

When it comes to young minors thought. The rape is often only discovered when mom gets suspicious about why her daughter is getting pudgy around the waistline and they discover the girl pregnant.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: GravitySucks

Vigilantism!

I always knew that I wanted to do more to protect unborn babies. And now, thanks to the new law in Texas, there is a way I can.
...
Right there in our apartment parking lot I saw two women talking and one had her hand on her belly. I overheard the other one say, “I know a doctor who can help.” They must have been planning an abortion!
...

So I started looking in the dumpsters for the evidence. Sure enough, a week later, there it was, a bag of bloody maxi pads!
...
I decided to go straight to the experts and get help from Texas Right to Life.

I packed up the incriminating evidence, and sent it to them, along with a description of what I had overheard.

I am sure Texas Right to Life will appreciate my vigilance.

L OL

Yep. And here I thought the same people inentivizing this were opposed to it when the shoe is on the other foot, when they're turned in for threatening to shoot Americans, for example. Guess that doesn't count as murder.

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: SprocketUK
I used to think Texas was the best American state.
Cowboys, country music, guns, pick up trucks...A place where men can be men and women like them that way...

Now though?
Nah, it's a mess.
Government peeking into bedroom windows wanting a say in what people do.
Nosy grassing pillocks trying to snitch on people for looking after their own bodies.

Texas is a mess, too much government, too many snitches, too much bible bashing.

It is a joke of a place and somewhere I would never now wish to travel to and spend money.

Excellent
The master plan is working
Keep your friends away too!
TIA

Unlike texans, I'm quite happy for my friends to make their own minds up about stuff, I don't feel the need to force them to act how I want.

Yeah well, we elect representatives to govern us.
My friends here vote.
So yeah, we made up our own minds.
Sorry if that offends.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

Mayo science backs the texas bill.

Catholic run MAYO Clinic says what?

Yeah that religous stench is acceptable when its a cancer treatment or alzheimers breakthrough.
Pfft hypocrite

That corner you are painting yourself into is gettin smaller.

a reply to: shooterbrody


Yeah, it does offend, you guys are the taliban, just have different hats

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: shooterbrody


Yeah, it does offend, you guys are the taliban, just have different hats

And you are simple eurotrash, no hat needed.

It is fascinating that, much like the other thread on this topic, this thread only has a handful of flags despite ATS primarily having a Conservative userbase. It seems to me that this law isn't even popular among the Right, despite the claims of a vocal minority.

The Temple of Satan has joined with Pro-Abortionists to scream and whine about Texas.

Source: www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: dragonridr

there is one other

THE FATHER that may know or at very least when finds out may be very pissed he was not consulted.

now to those warming up the "her body her choice" i say this
well if it is her choice, then its her choice TO PAY FOR IT

You CHOOSE to let this man have sex with you KNOWING (unless sterilized be him or you) that a child may come from it.

then you say he has no choice on if you kill it or not... then you cant now claim he has to pay for it.

your body your choice right?

here is how i look at it..

your choice , your dime (for abortion or keep it )

scrounger

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

Mayo science backs the texas bill.

Catholic run MAYO Clinic says what?

Yeah that religous stench is acceptable when its a cancer treatment or alzheimers breakthrough.
Pfft hypocrite

That corner you are painting yourself into is gettin smaller.

you have to realize people who think like Sookiechacha are all for "science" , freedom of speech, public good, and ideas like "my body my choice" until it counters their agenda..
then they are against it.

aka hypocrites

scrounger

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It is fascinating that, much like the other thread on this topic, this thread only has a handful of flags despite ATS primarily having a Conservative userbase. It seems to me that this law isn't even popular among the Right, despite the claims of a vocal minority.

no it means we dont have to "flag" every topic that tells the truth or is what we agree with..

we have something called LIVES , jobs and other things than to justify ourselves to people who wont let anything crack their little rants they set for themselves.

or in other words

we dont need to flag an article that says "water is wet"

scrounger

a reply to: scrounger
Actually, like every other abortion thread, it has devolved into the same ole same ole back and forth every thread touching the issue ends up being.
Go back and read the op and see how far off topic we are. Care to attempt an answer to the question? Why do you think women would want to just say no to sex and encourage others to in response to creeps like you?

originally posted by: scrounger

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

Mayo science backs the texas bill.

Catholic run MAYO Clinic says what?

Yeah that religous stench is acceptable when its a cancer treatment or alzheimers breakthrough.
Pfft hypocrite

That corner you are painting yourself into is gettin smaller.

you have to realize people who think like Sookiechacha are all for "science" , freedom of speech, public good, and ideas like "my body my choice" until it counters their agenda..
then they are against it.

aka hypocrites

scrounger

I agree.
The texas legislature has simply outflanked them using their own outdated roe v wade guidelines.
Roe v Wade was a crap ruling.
It needs updated.