New Zealand reports first death linked to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine

Sad for this woman. A victim of authoritarianism.

originally posted by: slatesteam
Better lock the country down…

Oh, yeah wait nvm. That’s not how this works.

New Zealand are already seeing the expected reduction in the number of daily new cases from the lockdown.

And only one city, Auckland, is currently under full level 4 lockdown.

The rest of New Zealand has been eased back to level 3, and this easing of lockdown will continue as we get on top of the situation - again.

We've got this. We've done it before.

originally posted by: HawkEyi
a reply to: chr0naut

and said that the death was a known rare adverse reaction to the vaccine. He specifically explained that they have been open and truthful about the risks

Yes i am sure that its just a rare adverse reaction. Just like how it was rare with the AZ vaxs till more issues were reported right?

Even with those few adverse reactions, they are still rare. 100's of millions of doses have been administered. Only a few have had adverse reactions.

That's called deniability.

No it's your denial of reality based on an overblown media promotion of a few adverse reactions.

because otherwise your 'giant conspiracy' doom-porn would look particularly foolish.

My doom-porn would look particularly foolish? why are you defending a vax that only has a 39% efficiency?

Because not taking the vaccine, or masking up, or locking down, or actually doing anything practical, has a 0% efficiency at protecting against COVID-19.

Nor is the efficiency of the vaccine that low. The clinically measured efficiency of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta strain was down from 95% efficiency for the Alpha strain, to 93%. That's still quite effective.

a reply to: chr0naut

Prepare to have many many more, its the new normal.

Did it say she was forced to take the vaccine against her will?



a reply to: humanResistance

originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: chr0naut

Let me ask you this... if death is an admitted rare side effect for these shots, do you believe they should be mandatory in order to work or buy groceries, go to a restaurant, etc?

No, I think that the shots shouldn't be mandatory.

But I do think that the public needs to be better educated about them, rather than picking up nearly everything that they know about the vaccines from the media, some of which are sensationalist, because it is commercially advantageous to them.

The current disdain for every authoritative or scientific source of information, in preference to largely anonymous, sensationalist, and unmoderated media, would be the majority of the problem.

One person dies out of hundreds of millions who have received the vaccine, and the media has a field day, and lots of people don't have the cognizance to realize it, and evaluate the situation rationally.

originally posted by: humanResistance
Scary thought when you think about it. New Zealand has mandatory vaccination for every person doesn't it?

No. It doesn't.

It is entirely voluntary in new Zealand.

The only countries that have mandatory vaccination even being discussed, are ones that think they have 'freedom' and 'liberty'. Weird inversion of reality, eh?

originally posted by: GammaD
a reply to: chr0naut

Here's data from the USA, our COVID Vaccinated Death Stats

6968 Total vaccinated deaths Dec 14, 2020 – Aug 23, 2021 source
160 deaths after 2 jabs Dec 14, 2020 – Apr 30, 2021 source
2063 deaths after 2 jabs May 1, 2021 – Aug 23, 2021 source
4745 deaths after 1 jab Dec 14, 2020 – Aug 23, 2021 Source: Math extrapolation (total deaths minus deaths after 2 jabs)


203 COVID-related deaths in USA as of March 19, 2020--the date the USA shut down source

So 203 deaths was enough to shut down our country and release hundreds of child traffickers out of prison, but 6968 deaths isn’t enough to stop the “vaccinations”?

Numbers always make sense; it is the language of absolutes. So, if the narrative isn't following the numbers, lies are being told.

You missed out the total number of those partially or fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in the USA:

368,408,264

So, this would mean the case-fatality ratio of the COVID-19 vaccines is 0.00189 of a percent.

The CFR for COVID-19 in the US is currently 1.637%

Take your pick.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: slatesteam
Better lock the country down…

Oh, yeah wait nvm. That’s not how this works.

New Zealand are already seeing the expected reduction in the number of daily new cases from the lockdown.

And only one city, Auckland, is currently under full level 4 lockdown.

The rest of New Zealand has been eased back to level 3, and this easing of lockdown will continue as we get on top of the situation - again.

We've got this. We've done it before.

Oh..what were those numbers?

That's what they all say and said.

"Its just voluntary when it isnt till they threaten either take the vax or no job"

a reply to: chr0naut
Good luck with that, there's a strange aversion to math here on ATS.

originally posted by: Butterfinger
a reply to: chr0naut

Prepare to have many many more, its the new normal.

People have always died, for all sorts of reasons, but hardly any of them from vaccines, compared to the total numbers of deaths.

It isn't new.

I work on a mobile covid testing site here in the UK and the company I work for on behalf of the NHS had to fight for staff to be allowed to have the jabs before the age group we were respectively in and it wasn't easy for them.

As you say most countries do not have the issue of forced vaccination as anything that would even be needed.



a reply to: chr0naut

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: humanResistance
Scary thought when you think about it. New Zealand has mandatory vaccination for every person doesn't it?

No. It doesn't.

It is entirely voluntary in new Zealand.

The only countries that have mandatory vaccination even being discussed, are ones that think they have 'freedom' and 'liberty'. Weird inversion of reality, eh?

It is not entirely voluntary in nz.
A "medical officer " has "special powers" during a pandemic and can force anyone to take a vaccine.

mandatory vaccines

I'd rather die than live with permanent, disabling side effects that no doctors will admit were caused by a pharmaceutical they're being paid to push.

I don't blame you.

If that were ever to actually happen I think I'd do the same thing.



a reply to: DashVol

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: HawkEyi
After six months of supposedly covid free NZ. NZ is reporting its first covid vax death to Pfizer due to heart inflammation. Even as they reported it they are still not linking it to the vax.

Yes, they are.

Our health minister went on national TV today at one of the emergency briefings we have been having every day to track the current outbreak, and said that the death was a known rare adverse reaction to the vaccine. He specifically explained that they have been open and truthful about the risks, having already previously having published the known adverse reactions to the Pfizer vaccine.

Cov id-19 update - 30 August 2021 - RNZ

"The benefits outweigh the risks" how many times have we heard this before more reports of astrazeneca issues started to emerge?

New Zealand reports first death linked to Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine
The NZ health minster claims that other health conditions of the person could have played a role? and what if the person was healthy before any of this started?

The health ministry said other medical issues at the same time could have influenced the outcome after vaccination.

But the vaccine's benefit outstripped risks from side effects, it added.

I really dont believe the minster here.

Of course not. You are desperately trying to misread what was plainly reported, because otherwise your 'giant conspiracy' doom-porn would look particularly foolish.

FOOLISH ?????

What is absolutely foolish is the ENTIRE Covid hysteria over a FLU with a survival rate of 99.4 %

Over 99% survival !!!

Thinking - you should try it sometime.

a reply to: humanResistance

If they did the place would get ungovernable. I don't think the Maoris like anything like that stuck in them.They will tell you to # off pretty fast.

a reply to: vonclod

It was about eighty cases the day before yesterday, and fiftyish yesterday. It's mainly in Auckland, about nine cases in Wellington.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: slatesteam
Better lock the country down…

Oh, yeah wait nvm. That’s not how this works.

New Zealand are already seeing the expected reduction in the number of daily new cases from the lockdown.

And only one city, Auckland, is currently under full level 4 lockdown.

The rest of New Zealand has been eased back to level 3, and this easing of lockdown will continue as we get on top of the situation - again.

We've got this. We've done it before.

Oh..what were those numbers?

The number of daily new cases.

Initially, it was growing quite rapidly, then it began to level off, now we have had definite reductions in the number of daily new cases.

Alongside this, we are having vaccinations increasing to 48,000 a day, with 1.16 million people fully vaccinated so far. That's not too bad for a quiet little island nation.

Daily stats for this outbreak: 562 cases nationally, 547 of which are in Auckland, which remains under level 4 lock-down. Other areas of NZ are eased to be under level 3 lock-down. New daily cases yesterday were 53. 37 people hospitalized with two in ICU.

We have just had a big storm and flooding overnight in Auckland, and some of the drive-through vaccination tents have been damaged, but the clean-up is well underway this morning and things are moving again.

Just to hand: Daily new cases for today have further reduced to 49.