FDA fully approves the "Vax"

originally posted by: game over man
How many vaccine threads do we need? There seems to be about 10 active threads. Which tells me something this is the new conspiracy to spend all day wasting your time on.

People say there's 1000's of doctors coming forward. Ok name 100, that leaves you 900+ doctors you don't have to mention. Should be pretty easy since there are 1000's.

Usually on your mouse there's a feature that allows you to keep scrolling. It's to be used when you see something you don't feel like discussing.

originally posted by: underpass61


From my view the gov't, FDA, Big Pharma et al have killed or royally screwed over people multiple times in the past. This is all documented. Odds they are the doing it again? Better than 50/50 I'd say. Yep that sucks for sure.

Do you think if there was a scale which side, hurt or help, would be heavier with more? I don't think it is a norm for people to want to do harm, and the vast majority are consistently trying to do good. People don't wake up in the morning thinking, boy I'm going to screw up today!

originally posted by: AutomateThis1v2
I'm tired of it. I can't go a friggin day or minute without someone basically begging and trying to guilt trip me into getting vaccinated, some of them are Libertarians lol. Like I heard you the other x amount times. Stop.

Does that actually work on people? The whole pleading thing? Like if a person gets bugged enough times about it they'll just cave and be all like "Okay, I guess since it's all you want to talk about I'll go get it so you'll shut up about it."

If you're a parent then you know kids do this constantly. Their tactics vs the tactics of democrats are exactly the same, as are their fits of rage.

originally posted by: panoz77

Yeah, the VAERS reporting only thousands dying raises no concerns. Never before in the history of medicine would a drug that resulted in 5 deaths, let alone thousands be approved. NEVER.

Maybe it points to the limited value VAERS actually provides. Low doses of aspirin kills like 3000 per year in the US, was that ever approved?

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

How to go about getting a drug from my doctor like Ivermectin?

originally posted by: Jaellma

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

How to go about getting a drug from my doctor like Ivermectin?

Ask and be prepared with information.

originally posted by: nonspecific
What I don't understand is you must have the same types of drugs as we do in the UK?

I've only ever had one prescription medication that made me ill and that was an SSRI called sertraline.

My GP said they it for a month and see how it goes, it made me feel awful so after two weeks I stopped and changed to another one and everything got better.

There's something really not right about the US healthcare system.



a reply to: AutomateThis1v2

There's one medicine called Chantix. It's to help you stop smoking, but one of the most common side effects is "thoughts of suicide". Seriously, if that's a common side effect then I'd rather continue smoking. I smoked for 20 years, quit in 2013 and didn't have a single issue, but I wanted to quit.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: underpass61


From my view the gov't, FDA, Big Pharma et al have killed or royally screwed over people multiple times in the past. This is all documented. Odds they are the doing it again? Better than 50/50 I'd say. Yep that sucks for sure.

Do you think if there was a scale which side, hurt or help, would be heavier with more? I don't think it is a norm for people to want to do harm, and the vast majority are consistently trying to do good. People don't wake up in the morning thinking, boy I'm going to screw up today!

Look, with the EUA and liability waivers it's clear that they are just spitballin' at best or have much darker objectives at worst. Agreed "people" are generally good, Megacorps aren't people in my book. I'm totally comfortable with my choice (which at least for the moment I still have) .

a reply to: LSU2018
I took Chantix and I had epic dreams.
If I woke in the night and went back to sleep the dream continued.

I actually believe I dreamt all night.....so crisp so clear.....amazing.

I know someone who was dreaming things like drilling holes in people's heads and they stopped taking them....

Apparently they can cause bad dreams....but I never had any bad dreams, just awesome dreams.

originally posted by: Jaellma

How to go about getting a drug from my doctor like Ivermectin?

Its funny that people don't trust the testing for COVID vaccine, but have no problem with a drug not intended for use in that treatment with zero testing.

Just doing a quick look I see this from the National Center for Biotechnology Information 3 years ago...

Serious neurological adverse events have been reported from large scale community-based ivermectin treatment campaigns against Onchocerciasis volvulus in Africa.

I take SSRI medication which is kind of an anti depressant, thoughts of suicide are listed in the possible side effects for it but given that it's given to people suffering from severe depression and other mental health issues that's not surprising really.

Drugs that help to stop smoking however should not be generating that kind of side effect.



a reply to: LSU2018

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: LSU2018
I took Chantix and I had epic dreams.
If I woke in the night and went back to sleep the dream continued.

I actually believe I dreamt all night.....so crisp so clear.....amazing.

I know someone who was dreaming things like drilling holes in people's heads and they stopped taking them....

Apparently they can cause bad dreams....but I never had any bad dreams, just awesome dreams.

Remember when using Chantix....

Stop using this medicine and call your doctor at once if you have:

a seizure (convulsions);

thoughts about suicide or hurting yourself;

strange dreams, sleepwalking, trouble sleeping;

new or worsening mental health problems - mood or behavior changes, depression, agitation, hostility, aggression;

heart attack symptoms - chest pain or pressure, chest pain spreading to your jaw or shoulder, nausea, sweating; o

stroke symptoms - sudden numbness or weakness (especially on one side of the body), slurred speech, drooping of one side of the face, problems with vision or balance.

Your family or other caregivers should also be alert to changes in your mood or behavior.

Common Chantix side effects may include:

nausea (may persist for several months), vomiting;

constipation, gas;

sleep problems (insomnia); or

unusual dreams.

originally posted by: Jaellma

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: norhoc

That's nice.


Still not getting a vaccine for a #ing cold bug.

Me either and I just learned my sister and husband have COVID both are being treated with Ivermectin and are now doing fine.

Why sign up for boosters when you can get an alternate treatment...

How to go about getting a drug from my doctor like Ivermectin?

You can probably find it at a feed store because it's used for cattle. Take 1cc per 100 lbs of body weight. Also at feed stores, you can find things like penicillin for animals. They have quite a lot of good meds you can stock up on that you can't get for a human without a prescription. I'm not sure what the penicillin dosage is for humans when you get it there, but I do know the Ivermectin dosage. Just be sure you don't take a dosage amount meant for a horse or cow.

originally posted by: nonspecific

Drugs that help to stop smoking however should not be generating that kind of side effect.

It partially activates sites in the brain known as nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, so it is messing with your brain...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: LSU2018
I took Chantix and I had epic dreams.
If I woke in the night and went back to sleep the dream continued.

I actually believe I dreamt all night.....so crisp so clear.....amazing.

I know someone who was dreaming things like drilling holes in people's heads and they stopped taking them....

Apparently they can cause bad dreams....but I never had any bad dreams, just awesome dreams.

One of our developers tried it for, I think, two weeks and he said he had horrible nightmares and the suicidal thoughts, he went back to smoking. My sister also tried it and she said she had really bad nightmares but not suicidal thoughts. Here are the other side effects. I'd rather smoke, lol.

Nausea (I'd rather smoke)
Vomiting (I'd rather smoke)
Headache (I'd rather smoke)
Trouble sleeping, unusual dreams, or sleepwalking (This is a toss-up)
Constipation (I'd rather smoke)
Gas (I'd rather have gas)
Changes in taste (I'd rather smoke)
Skin rashes (I'd rather smoke)
Seizures (I'd rather smoke)
Heart or blood vessel problems (I'd rather smoke)
Mood or behavior changes, such as depression, hallucinations, delusions, aggression, hostility, agitation, anxiety, panic, or even suicidal thoughts (I'd rather smoke)

a reply to: LSU2018

My mom was on Chantix and had to stop not from suicidal thoughts but very weird vivid dreams she was having. It really freaked her out. Once she stopped the dreams went away. Watching these drug commercials and listening to the side effects it seems they are worse than whatever you are supposed to be taking them for. Makes you wonder how some of these got approved, follow the money I would guess.

originally posted by: nonspecific
I take SSRI medication which is kind of an anti depressant, thoughts of suicide are listed in the possible side effects for it but given that it's given to people suffering from severe depression and other mental health issues that's not surprising really.

Drugs that help to stop smoking however should not be generating that kind of side effect.



a reply to: LSU2018

I listed the other ones, too... My consensus would have said "Keep smoking, buddy". There's one medication available here for bipolar 1 disorder, the name of the medicine is called Zyprexa. Take a look at all of the side effects and think for a moment if you'd want this if you were bipolar. Not to mention the meds you'd need to counteract the side effects that you have, and the meds to counteract the side effects of the meds you're taking to counteract the meds for bipolar disorder. It's crazy.

Zyprexa Side Effects:

Bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet
blurred vision
change in vision
change in walking and balance
clumsiness or unsteadiness
difficulty with speaking
difficulty with swallowing
drooling
impaired vision
inability to sit still
loss of balance control
mask-like face
muscle trembling, jerking, or stiffness
need to keep moving
rapid weight gain
restlessness
shuffling walk
slowed movements
slurred speech
stiffness of the arms and legs
tic-like (jerky) movements of the head, face, mouth, and neck
tingling of the hands or feet
trembling or shaking of the fingers, hands, feet, legs, or arms
twisting movements of the body
uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
unusual weight gain or loss
Bladder pain
bloody or cloudy urine
bruising
burning, crawling, itching, numbness, prickling, "pins and needles", or tingling feelings
chest pain
difficult or labored breathing
difficult, burning, or painful urination
dizziness
excessive muscle tone
frequent urge to urinate
headache
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
itching of the vagina or genital area
lack of coordination
large, flat, blue, or purplish patches in the skin
loss of bladder control
loss of memory
lower back or side pain
muscle tension or tightness
nervousness
pain during sexual intercourse
pounding in the ears
problems with memory
rhythmic movement of the muscles
slow, fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse
speaking is less clear than usual
sticking out the tongue
thick, white vaginal discharge with no odor or with a mild odor
tightness in the chest
twitching
uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
unusual or incomplete body or facial movements
weakness of the arms and legs
Acid or sour stomach
back pain
belching
change in personality
difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
discouragement
feeling sad or empty
fever
heartburn
increased appetite
increased cough
indigestion
lack of appetite
lack or loss of strength
loss of interest or pleasure
runny nose
sneezing
stomach discomfort, upset, or pain
stuffy nose
thirst
trouble sleeping
trouble with concentrating
watering of the mouth
Blemishes on the skin
body aches or pain
chills
cold sweats
congestion
cough
dry skin
dryness or soreness of the throat
false or unusual sense of well-being
heavy menstrual bleeding (periods)
hoarseness
joint pain
lack of feeling or emotion
leg cramps
pain in the arms or legs
pimples
sweating
tender, swollen glands in the neck
uncaring feelings
voice change
vomiting

a reply to: Xtrozero

I wonder what Doc is gonna do at 2 in the morning when you're waking up in a cold sweat from a nightmare and point your gun at your temple. Sounds like it'd be a little too late.

originally posted by: Charliebrowndog
a reply to: LSU2018

My mom was on Chantix and had to stop not from suicidal thoughts but very weird vivid dreams she was having. It really freaked her out. Once she stopped the dreams went away. Watching these drug commercials and listening to the side effects it seems they are worse than whatever you are supposed to be taking them for. Makes you wonder how some of these got approved, follow the money I would guess.

Following the money, you nailed it. Other than Tylenol, Advil, and Aspirin, I don't take anything.

originally posted by: LSU2018

I listed the other ones, too... My consensus would have said "Keep smoking, buddy". There's one medication available here for bipolar 1 disorder, the name of the medicine is called Zyprexa. Take a look at all of the side effects and think for a moment if you'd want this if you were bipolar. Not to mention the meds you'd need to counteract the side effects that you have, and the meds to counteract the side effects of the meds you're taking to counteract the meds for bipolar disorder. It's crazy.

Zyprexa Side Effects:

Bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet
blurred vision
change in vision
change in walking and balance
clumsiness or unsteadiness
difficulty with speaking
difficulty with swallowing
drooling
impaired vision
inability to sit still
loss of balance control
mask-like face
muscle trembling, jerking, or stiffness
need to keep moving
rapid weight gain
restlessness
shuffling walk
slowed movements
slurred speech
stiffness of the arms and legs
tic-like (jerky) movements of the head, face, mouth, and neck
tingling of the hands or feet
trembling or shaking of the fingers, hands, feet, legs, or arms
twisting movements of the body
uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
unusual weight gain or loss
Bladder pain
bloody or cloudy urine
bruising
burning, crawling, itching, numbness, prickling, "pins and needles", or tingling feelings
chest pain
difficult or labored breathing
difficult, burning, or painful urination
dizziness
excessive muscle tone
frequent urge to urinate
headache
inability to move the eyes
increased blinking or spasms of the eyelid
itching of the vagina or genital area
lack of coordination
large, flat, blue, or purplish patches in the skin
loss of bladder control
loss of memory
lower back or side pain
muscle tension or tightness
nervousness
pain during sexual intercourse
pounding in the ears
problems with memory
rhythmic movement of the muscles
slow, fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse
speaking is less clear than usual
sticking out the tongue
thick, white vaginal discharge with no odor or with a mild odor
tightness in the chest
twitching
uncontrolled twisting movements of the neck, trunk, arms, or legs
unusual or incomplete body or facial movements
weakness of the arms and legs
Acid or sour stomach
back pain
belching
change in personality
difficulty having a bowel movement (stool)
discouragement
feeling sad or empty
fever
heartburn
increased appetite
increased cough
indigestion
lack of appetite
lack or loss of strength
loss of interest or pleasure
runny nose
sneezing
stomach discomfort, upset, or pain
stuffy nose
thirst
trouble sleeping
trouble with concentrating
watering of the mouth
Blemishes on the skin
body aches or pain
chills
cold sweats
congestion
cough
dry skin
dryness or soreness of the throat
false or unusual sense of well-being
heavy menstrual bleeding (periods)
hoarseness
joint pain
lack of feeling or emotion
leg cramps
pain in the arms or legs
pimples
sweating
tender, swollen glands in the neck
uncaring feelings
voice change
vomiting

The people who would eat Zyprexa like candy are complaining about the COVID vaccine...lol