Atlantis seen in the Bible and the Geological Record

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Sand does not just cover things up, it also uncovers. This is guided by the wind, most notably the trade winds direction. The "creeping" of sand is like two steps forward, one step back.

I lived in West Texas for decades. Quite familiar with sand.

Must of been a lot of water involved in the creation of this sand, in the first place. But, just like the beaches of Hawaii being a result of lava and are exclusive to that area, it is black sand. All depending on the color of the crust that is being degraded. Interesting how all the geological features in this country, Mauritania, are brown or red, but yet this sand is white and light tan. Don't you find this interesting?

Yes, but no. The story's written large in the geologic maps of the nation and of the area of West Africa. Your question to me is kind of like asking me "so see this place full of things called books... don't you find it interesting that they all have words in them and that they tell you things?"

I know how to read the story from the evidence.

I too would love to see ground level photographs of these objects, but, its going to be tough. Not only are the blocks fenced off, but the entire area is behind fencing, that runs for miles...

Until you can prove that they're blocks and not buildings and that they're old, I'm afraid you've got nothing that contradicts the idea that these are recent buildings (past 60 years or so.)

Maybe, we can coerce Jimmy Bright Insight to take a drone with him next time he is in this area

Or just drive by and video. Easy-peasey!

a reply to: Byrd

Or just drive by and video. Easy-peasey!

I'm guessing you haven't looked to see the fencing. All the areas where these objects (Building Blocks) are located, are behind these fences. You can't just drive by and video. I cant tell from the air if there are any no trespassing signs or not. A drone would be a more practical solution. A good quality drone can travel a mile (at least) Zoom, or take high quality photos, up close. You can also program a autonomous mission where you plug in the location and it will go there unaided.

originally posted by: GolgothaBridge
a reply to: Byrd

I'm only going on what Plato says. He said his friend got the story from an Egyptian priest. Now you can say that was part of a fictional Greek story as well.

Yes, I know that Atlantis is fiction (based on all the evidence).

originally posted by: GolgothaBridge
I'd suggest that in what I'm saying it's the human race as a whole that survived and they Atlantis was a myth explaining a pre flood world.

Except that Atlantis isn't a myth... the story of Atlantis does not appear in any form or any record or any tale except Plato's. And there was no global flood

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

Or just drive by and video. Easy-peasey!

I'm guessing you haven't looked to see the fencing. All the areas where these objects (Building Blocks) are located, are behind these fences. You can't just drive by and video. I cant tell from the air if there are any no trespassing signs or not. A drone would be a more practical solution. A good quality drone can travel a mile (at least) Zoom, or take high quality photos, up close. You can also program a autonomous mission where you plug in the location and it will go there unaided.

Yes...

Would it surprise you to know that I've owned drones and was flying them before Covid hit?

It's not going to take that kind of surveillance. Just drive by. Seriously.

There's no indication that these are anything but modern buildings.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

Or just drive by and video. Easy-peasey!

I'm guessing you haven't looked to see the fencing. All the areas where these objects (Building Blocks) are located, are behind these fences. You can't just drive by and video. I cant tell from the air if there are any no trespassing signs or not. A drone would be a more practical solution. A good quality drone can travel a mile (at least) Zoom, or take high quality photos, up close. You can also program a autonomous mission where you plug in the location and it will go there unaided.

Yes...

Would it surprise you to know that I've owned drones and was flying them before Covid hit?

It's not going to take that kind of surveillance. Just drive by. Seriously.

There's no indication that these are anything but modern buildings.

Do you understand the word "Fence"?

fence verb
fenced; fencing

Definition of fence (Entry 2 of 2)

transitive verb
1a : to enclose with a fence
b(1) : to keep in or out with a fence
(2) : to ward off

As shown, you might get a glimpse of these objects that are close to the "Fence", but in no way be able to see the ones deep inside the "Fenced" area. Some, may even have inscriptions on them but you would never know, on that side of the "Fence". The question then becomes, whats so IMPORTANT inside the "Fenced" area, that you feel the need to "Fence" off a large area of desert in the first place. There are two areas, that are "Fenced" one to the left and one to the right of the entrance to the Eye. Most of the objects (Building blocks) also have their own "Fencing" around them...

Not that it ever crossed my mind that you fly drones, its nice to meet another enthusiast. Ive been flying drones since Walkera's junk "hit" the market, 10 years? Upgraded two or so years ago to the very reliable DJI. I wish the U.S. would put out a comparable fairly priced competitor... It is, what it is..

What ever it is in those "fenced" off areas, keep UNESCO as far away as possible....!

a reply to: Byrd

New ruin coming out of the sand. So far, looks similar to the ancient ruin at 20°59'55.69"N 11°26'21.15"W


The older views that are available do not show this ruin. The latest Goggle Earth does show it but not very clear.

Goggle Earth 20°59'43.69"N 11°29'1.24"W Zoom Earth 20.995457,-11.48315,19z 10.2 miles from the center of the Eye.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

As shown, you might get a glimpse of these objects that are close to the "Fence", but in no way be able to see the ones deep inside the "Fenced" area.

I want to see some evidence (shadows, perhaps) that there's actually a fence there and not... say.. the remains of a road or simply vegetation growing along a geologic bedding plane. Both of those are possible.

Some, may even have inscriptions on them but you would never know, on that side of the "Fence". The question then becomes, whats so IMPORTANT inside the "Fenced" area, that you feel the need to "Fence" off a large area of desert in the first place. There are two areas, that are "Fenced" one to the left and one to the right of the entrance to the Eye. Most of the objects (Building blocks) also have their own "Fencing" around them...

Yes, most of the houses/sheds have little fences around them to keep animals in ... and out. It's a desert and you want some control of your property.

This is a traveled area, not some almost-inaccessible area like Kerguelen Islands. Millions of people have been through there since antiquity -- there's towns and farmsteads and there are and were businesses all over the place. The Romans wandered through there, and it was occupied by various groups during medieval times. Nomads wander around the area. Heck, even the Peace Corps sends people there (mentioned offhandedly in this blog)

Not that it ever crossed my mind that you fly drones, its nice to meet another enthusiast. Ive been flying drones since Walkera's junk "hit" the market, 10 years? Upgraded two or so years ago to the very reliable DJI.

Ah, I'm envious. Gave it up when I went back to teaching (gave the drone to my son).

What ever it is in those "fenced" off areas, keep UNESCO as far away as possible....!

Like I said, there's no evidence that it's sealed off or that people are forbidden from going there (though it's advised to NOT go without a good escort because of bandits.)

The only areas that are restricted to travel (website here) are areas close to Mali (the country that they're having a dispute with.) There is no indication that you couldn't hire your own team of safety experts and visit these houses. They'd probably be very astonished to meet an American.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

New ruin coming out of the sand. So far, looks similar to the ancient ruin at 20°59'55.69"N 11°26'21.15"W


The older views that are available do not show this ruin. The latest Goggle Earth does show it but not very clear.

Goggle Earth 20°59'43.69"N 11°29'1.24"W Zoom Earth 20.995457,-11.48315,19z 10.2 miles from the center of the Eye.

Dunno. The other sites make it look more like geology and sand patterns. Not sure on this one.

a reply to: Byrd

Ya know I just went through all the UNESCO sites listed for Mauritania and it seem they only find sites that can be dated around the 11th, 12th Century. On site dated to the 7th. 11 sites total. Now it is interesting how Ouadane is listed The city was founded in the 11th century AD. Now that's interesting because another web site stated that the founding is undetermined.
archiqoo.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

Neither of them point out that the site sits on the bank of a ancient river. Nor does it point out that there are ruins on a "would have been" island just up stream. Or that it appears there is a dock.

There is another site not far away that's just as big as Ouadane and also situated on the bank of a ancient river. The funny part is, it is not listed with UNESCO. It doesn't even have a name. I guess it didn't have anything to do with the trade routs. But yet, there it is. You think UNESCO is falling down on the job? Or, maybe something to do with, politics? Old politics?

20°44'21.91"N 12° 0'15.48"W 20.739505,-12.004354,18z

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

Ya know I just went through all the UNESCO sites listed for Mauritania and it seem they only find sites that can be dated around the 11th, 12th Century. On site dated to the 7th. 11 sites total. Now it is interesting how Ouadane is listed The city was founded in the 11th century AD. Now that's interesting because another web site stated that the founding is undetermined.
archiqoo.com...

UNESCO (founded in 1946) only designates world heritage sites. They do not list every single archaeological site. UNESCO did not designate Ft. Davis here in Texas as a world heritage site, but I can assure you that the Texas Archaeological Society did go there and dig because it's a significant site.

Depending on where you are, there's a number of organizations that record and license digs at the county, state, and nation level. Modern digs are given a numeric designation that also includes the year; a site might be covered up and then re-investigated years or decades later. Locating earlier digs (we looked for one here in Texas in one of the university classes that I took) can be iffy, since before a certain time period the only record came from the lead archaeologist on the dig.

Most of the material on Mauritania is likely in French.

I have seen that aerial view before when I was looking for known sites in Mauritania. I've forgotten what it's called, but yes, it's known and investigated and that one's 11th-14th century-ish as well.

a reply to: Byrd

UNESCO (founded in 1946) only designates world heritage sites. They do not list every single archaeological site.

So very very true.

UNESCO Logo

The use of the name and logo of UNESCO, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, is subject to rules laid down by the governing bodies of the Organization.

Education? Controllers!

I have noticed many, many white tents in MANY suspected archeological sites. The one thing these tents have in common are they are white with one side having a blue area. Bedouins usually have only white tents and arranged in a certain way. These tents I speak of are many times butted up to a "Object". Then reviewing historical images, the area where they were has been altered. Objects move, and or removed. Around the eye Objects just disappear where before a Object was (building blocks with inscriptions?)

I cant find any images of these tents that are clear so I can only assume they belong to UNESCO. Why? The Blue area centered on one side.





There are a thousand, at least, of these tents scattered around Mauritania. The area of the tent are all on the same side, away from the viewing angle. It only appears as a dark area on the top of the tent in this image, but in other images, it is clearly blue. Sometimes there are tan vehicles parked next to them, but most of the time, not.

If there ever were a organization that wanted to suppress certain parts of history, UNESCO would be it.!

Most of the material on Mauritania is likely in French.

I have seen that aerial view before when I was looking for known sites in Mauritania. I've forgotten what it's called, but yes, it's known and investigated and that one's 11th-14th century-ish as well.

Im sorry, but you are going to have to bring your findings to the table, "I Call" (Poker Term)

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

New ruin coming out of the sand. So far, looks similar to the ancient ruin at 20°59'55.69"N 11°26'21.15"W


The older views that are available do not show this ruin. The latest Goggle Earth does show it but not very clear.

Goggle Earth 20°59'43.69"N 11°29'1.24"W Zoom Earth 20.995457,-11.48315,19z 10.2 miles from the center of the Eye.

Dunno. The other sites make it look more like geology and sand patterns. Not sure on this one.

This is a 2014 view of the same area. The elements are a bit clearer.

Atlantis was high in tech, but not that high we have today. Batteries and such were counted as miracles in that day, not today.
Half human half animal or half god creatures come from before the flood and were stories of past. Like our legends. We know they had mamooths etc so its all plausible that they had mythical creatures that do not exist today. And yes there was a flood because of a comet and/or with a big lake in north America which gave away during that time and affected all the world, washing many things on land and also raising the water level a lot, today still having probably 30 percent of the raise. Again, I think there were nothing fancy in today's terms. If there was it was only fancy for them. Its a story of a flood which washed away a popular society. No flying cities.

originally posted by: belkide
Atlantis was high in tech, but not that high we have today. Batteries and such were counted as miracles in that day, not today.
Half human half animal or half god creatures come from before the flood and were stories of past. Like our legends. We know they had mamooths etc so its all plausible that they had mythical creatures that do not exist today. And yes there was a flood because of a comet and/or with a big lake in north America which gave away during that time and affected all the world, washing many things on land and also raising the water level a lot, today still having probably 30 percent of the raise. Again, I think there were nothing fancy in today's terms. If there was it was only fancy for them. Its a story of a flood which washed away a popular society. No flying cities.

The only high tech at the time was held by the "gods", and maybe some of the demigods. Common man was still in the stone age, given only what they needed to survive, and serve the wishes of the gods/demigods...

Basically the same system is at play today, with notable differences. Demigods converted to "Royalty" and "Global Elite". Same bloodlines, same system, same "Haves, and Have not's" Many at the bottom, supporting the few at the top. And the extreme hatred of equality (Republican Mindset were each man is the king of his castle). Nothing has changed except the context in which society is set in.

originally posted by: belkide

Atlantis was high in tech

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Reality check.

1. There was no Atantis (high or low in tech).

2. It existed only in Plato's imagination.

originally posted by: Hooke

originally posted by: belkide

Atlantis was high in tech

...

Reality check.

1. There was no Atantis (high or low in tech).

2. It existed only in Plato's imagination.

Plato must of had one heck of an imagination to conceive of structures in the Richat Structures second ring. 2300 years ago he imagined buried structures, wow. He, was really good.

21° 7'4.04"N 11°16'26.18"W



21° 7'12.62"N 11°16'34.51"W



21° 7'15.42"N 11°16'48.78"W



21° 7'22.90"N 11°16'41.08"W



What a imagination

obviously YOUR imagination.

three threads ongoing s̶p̶a̶m̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ sorry posting random screenshots.

originally posted by: anti72
obviously YOUR imagination.

three threads ongoing s̶p̶a̶m̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ sorry posting random screenshots.

Do I smell the slightest hint, of Venom?

Yes, the Divine attribute of, imagination. Don't you, just love it

Random? Only to those who wish not to see the picture that will be exposed. A picture that will expose those spoiled rotten children that were given everything in order to create a suitable existence to the source that gave them, everything! And then, stabbed that Source, in the back. Do let the Court of Public opinion see all the pieces of that crime. Let the public see the crimes against humanity those "ancient gods" perpetrated.

5th structure discovered in the second ring of the Richat Structure.

21° 9'7.56"N 11°16'48.19"W
200ft X 95ft


Random? MY A$$!!

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: GolgothaBridge
I'd suggest that in what I'm saying it's the human race as a whole that survived and they Atlantis was a myth explaining a pre flood world.

Except that Atlantis isn't a myth... the story of Atlantis does not appear in any form or any record or any tale except Plato's.

But I don't think there is enough evidence to establish with certainty whether the story of Atlantis was, or was not, taken from an actual myth.

Clearly it was not a myth that was widely told in Europe. So it only enters Europe's mythological history with Plato's account. Prior to Plato, it hadn't played any role in Europe's cultural development.

The Egyptians, for their part, didn't make any murals about it. (But also didn't place a lot of value in history that occurred prior to the first pharaohs.)

However, a fair number of other African ethnicities joined Egypt late in the game. Any number of those could have brought the myth with them.

And there was no global flood

The story of a global flood came about because people were finding sea shells (or fossils of them) in the tops of mountains, and didn't know why.

It probably got mingled with local stories about fairly large (but not global) floods.