The Biden Administration Will Recognize the Taliban as Afghanistan's Legitimate Government.

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
Not only that Trump was negotiating with the Taliban. They always would have been returned to power in Afghanistan. So, what is the problem now?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Renegging in promised air support.

Abandoning citizens and friendlies.

Gifting taliban modern military gear.


Have you not been paying attention?

When has that changed?

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
Anyway your just a partisan. Red puppets good, Blue puppets bad. I think they are all puppets and we are never going to agree. You may think I am stupid as you have said repeatedly, I don't think you are. I just think your partisanship blinds you.

Anyway carry on.

That might be a mirror you are looking at.


Your absurd claim of taliban size gets debunked so you call names, make insinuations, and run off?

Think nobody noticed?

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Nunyabizisit

aye its a #ing nightmare for us and them
but the most annoying thing is to see grown men
running away from their homeland
when they are able bodied and have the means to fight them

that would be akin to me running away if Scotland was invaded by the Taliban after the British army left and left us with all their gear, its unthinkable .

I agree.

Doesn't sit right with me either.


I don't know what I'd do if faced with such an impossible situation.

And that disturbs me a little.

originally posted by: Nunyabizisit

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters
Anyway your just a partisan. Red puppets good, Blue puppets bad. I think they are all puppets and we are never going to agree. You may think I am stupid as you have said repeatedly, I don't think you are. I just think your partisanship blinds you.

Anyway carry on.

That might be a mirror you are looking at.


Your absurd claim of taliban size gets debunked so you call names, make insinuations, and run off?

Think nobody noticed?

The Asia Foundation poll found that 88.7 percent of respondents say that they “strongly or somewhat support” peace talks with the insurgents.

The survey also found that some 64 percent of the respondents shared the view that reconciliation with the Taliban is possible, a 10.5 percentage point increase from 2018. Men (69.6 percent) appeared more optimistic than women (58.5 percent).

The San Francisco-based foundation interviewed 17,812 respondents aged 18 years and above from across the 34 provinces from July 11 to Aug. 7, 2019. The respondents were 51 percent male and 49 percent female.

“In general, peace, reconciliation, security, and economy impacted people’s optimism and pessimism,” Abdullah Ahmadzai, the Asia Foundation’s country representative in Afghanistan said during the presentation of the survey in Kabul.

A little over 36 percent of respondents believed that the country was moving in the right direction while 58.2 percent said Afghanistan was headed in the wrong direction, down from 61.3 percent in 2018.

“One of the main reasons behind the increase in the optimism of the respondents that the country is moving in the right direction was the peace negotiations,” Ahmadzai said.

www.telesurenglish.net...

The majority of Afghani's wanted peace talks and reconciliation with the Taliban, but keep blowing smoke that the majority of the people were against them.

Anyway I am just done with the partisan BS

One question, when a carvan of Taliban is about to enter a city why are they not bombed?

It sounds like we need to rethink how wars are fought.

Too liberal

a reply to: Nunyabizisit

I guess as others have said race home to protect your loved ones against rape or torture or enslavement or worse death.

Its disgusting that there are still people on this earth who carry out such acts
and our governments sit here and talk about diplomacy

If Aghanistan isnt worth fighting for then only your family are and let Afghanistan fall into the hands of murderous evil scum. Its only a matter of time before another super power comes in to steal their natural assets and the taliban are patted on the head or awarded huge sums of money or land for being good lap dogs and chasing the western forces out.

UPDATE

JOE BIDEN and HILLARY CLINTON are now our point people on Afghanistan.

The White House has announced that President Biden has spoken to Britain’s Prime Minister Boris Johnson — the first world leader he’s engaged with since Kabul fell.

Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau reveals he consulted with Hillary Clinton on Afghanistan efforts.

Source: nypost.com...

I bet Hussein Obama is in the mix too.

IMO, the Afghanistan crisis is flushing out those who conspired to rig the 2020 Presidential election for Joseph R. Biden.

a reply to: themessengernevermatters


"Anyway I am just done with the partisan BS"

It's about time.

When will that start?




"The majority of Afghani's wanted peace talks"

Of course they did.

They are peaceful people.

Contrary to common western misperceptions.

They are nothing like the taliban.

Nobody here ever claimed that the Afghan people didn't want peace talks.

Complete strawman.

And not a very good one.



Have you been paying attention the past couple weeks?

Does that look like either 'peace' or 'talks' to you?



Keep trying though, you may eventually stumble across a legitimate way to support what joe just did.

Not.

originally posted by: Bloodworth
One question, when a carvan of Taliban is about to enter a city why are they not bombed?

Thank you for joining us.

A: because joe decided to renege on our promise to provide air support (to bomb the taliban as you described).

a reply to: sapien82


I'd like to think there are some real heros in our military that would stand their ground for as long as they drew breath, but doubt that many of us normal people could honestly say that.

There may have been many of that same hero breed in ANA.

We'll never know because they had no chance of survival without the promised air support.

Most probably didn't survive more than a few minutes in those circumstances.

F.Y.I...

U.S. CONGRESSWOMEN

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Rashida Tlaib

Ilhan Omar

A.K.A. "The Squad"

Are NOT CONCERNED about what happens to WOMEN in Afghanistan, who are now subject to the whims of the terrorist-run Taliban government.

Source: www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: carewemust

Consulted with HRC? What kind of BS is this?

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: carewemust

Consulted with HRC? What kind of BS is this?

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are working with Joe Biden behind the scenes on almost everything his administration does.

Sounds like there's a big rift between vice president Harris and President Biden over Afghanistan, among other things.

humanevents.com...

originally posted by: Ohanka
There’s not really much choice. There is no one else claiming to be the government of Afghanistan. Even the ousted leaders of the now defunct puppet government didn’t run away to the same place to try and set up a government in exile.

No we don’t have to recognize them. And we should have taken all the equipment out of there. But this is what leftists do. They have always supported Marxists, communists, and radical regimes.

Your orange jesus signed a peace treaty with the taliban, agreed to a May 2021 troop withdrawl, and wanted them to visit Camp David. i dont get you trump worshippers.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: carewemust

Consulted with HRC? What kind of BS is this?

Remember Benghazi ?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: Ohanka
There’s not really much choice. There is no one else claiming to be the government of Afghanistan. Even the ousted leaders of the now defunct puppet government didn’t run away to the same place to try and set up a government in exile.

I, we don’t have to recognize them.

The Biden administration just finished a press briefing.

The planes taking off from Kabul are only 40% full, because Americans are having a difficult time getting to the airport through checkpoints and for other reasons. Only 16% of those who make it on the planes are americans.

The United States will not meet the talibans August 31st deadline for removal of all civilians.

Therefore, the Biden administration is going to ask the Taliban for an extension of time, and hope they say "yes".

a reply to: carewemust

And they will refuse and they will take hostages. Biden really screwed this up pulling out without any requirements from them.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: carewemust

And they will refuse and they will take hostages. Biden really screwed this up pulling out without any requirements from them.

Fox News

4,500 US troops are at the Kabul airport, but are not allowed to go out into the City and help Americans get to the airport.

The Taliban checkpoints are intercepting those attempting to get to the airport, with some Americans and Afghans being beaten.