Why do we have to wear a mask if I am vaccinated?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Brassmonkey

Clearly from February last year.

Things change in over a year, ya know.

The US Surgeon General said masks are NOT effective in preventing the general public from catching China Virus.

So what changed?
The size of the virus...or the size of the mask fiber net?

Masks don't stop people from catching the virus. They can't filter it out of the air. Even the M95 masks cannot filter out something as small as a virus. But masks can reduce the velocity of air flow, and so can prevent people from transmitting the virus to others.

Masks are a magic one way device. And they are effective after being wetted with slobber, and snot. Where cheap medical masks don’t seal.

Personal protective gear can only protect the person wearing it. Hence the name personal protective equipment.

Maybe you could invent social protective gear…..

a reply to: Brassmonkey

Ok so the CDC just reversed it’s recommendation
For masks indoors. They are now recommending that people who have been vaccinated still have to wear a mask now.

My question is simple:

What data is there that supports this recommendation?
The only answer that the White House press secretary gave today was “ It’s an extra layer of support and you can still
Transmit the virus”

It's a passive aggressive move to stir up resentment against the unvaccinated population.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

What’s one of the virus that causes the common cold?

Its name starts with a c….

And you are an animal. Just because some other coronaviruses have not been stopped, does not mean that ALL coronaviruses will never be stopped.

SARS and MERS are both far more closely related to the SARS-CoV-2 virus than common cold causing coronaviruses, and SARS and MERS, which were once epidemic, have been stopped.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

What countries have never had a case of covid 19?

Places Without Reported COVID-19 Cases

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

What’s one of the virus that causes the common cold?

Its name starts with a c….

And you are an animal. Just because some other coronaviruses have not been stopped, does not mean that ALL coronaviruses will never be stopped.

SARS and MERS are both far more closely related to the SARS-CoV-2 virus than common cold causing coronaviruses, and SARS and MERS, which were once epidemic, have been stopped.

So. There always has been, and always will be coronaviruses making new strains and variants. Is that a false statement. Unless the world’s population starts to live in perfect sterile individual bubbles.

I asked what counties never had COVID-19.

What areas of the mean population never had covid-19?

a reply to: TzarChasm
Yeah ... no. I am pissed at the government. They know the problem isn't vaccinated people and punishing us isn't changing anyone's mind.

The unvaccinated can't impose mandates.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Brassmonkey

Clearly from February last year.

Things change in over a year, ya know.

The US Surgeon General said masks are NOT effective in preventing the general public from catching China Virus.

So what changed?
The size of the virus...or the size of the mask fiber net?

Masks don't stop people from catching the virus. They can't filter it out of the air. Even the M95 masks cannot filter out something as small as a virus. But masks can reduce the velocity of air flow, and so can prevent people from transmitting the virus to others.

Masks are a magic one way device. And they are effective after being wetted with slobber, and snot. Where cheap medical masks don’t seal.

Personal protective gear can only protect the person wearing it. Hence the name personal protective equipment.

Maybe you could invent social protective gear…..

Masks are still PPE against larger particulates such as bacteria, dusts, aerosols, and some larger molecule chemicals. That is why they had masks, and called them PPE, before 2019.

because it gives them a warm feeling to see people comply.

a reply to: ketsuko

the unvaccinated don't want to impose anything. quite the contrary.

originally posted by: neutronflux
I asked what counties never had COVID-19.

What areas of the mean population never had covid-19?

Why? What does that have to do with masks or vaccines? How is it relevant?

a reply to: chr0naut

Where I live, in New Zealand, we don't have any cases of COVID-19 outside of quarantine.

Really?
No asymptomatic people there eh?

Lol
Red Red Red

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Brassmonkey

Clearly from February last year.

Things change in over a year, ya know.

The US Surgeon General said masks are NOT effective in preventing the general public from catching China Virus.

So what changed?
The size of the virus...or the size of the mask fiber net?

Masks don't stop people from catching the virus. They can't filter it out of the air. Even the M95 masks cannot filter out something as small as a virus. But masks can reduce the velocity of air flow, and so can prevent people from transmitting the virus to others.

Masks are a magic one way device. And they are effective after being wetted with slobber, and snot. Where cheap medical masks don’t seal.

Personal protective gear can only protect the person wearing it. Hence the name personal protective equipment.

Maybe you could invent social protective gear…..

Masks are still PPE against larger particulates such as bacteria, dusts, aerosols, and some larger molecule chemicals. That is why they had masks, and called them PPE, before 2019.

And I was taught in the military and in industry a mask that doesn’t seal is useless.


Why are people not supposed to wear a N-95 mask that has an exit valve? How is that different than wearing a mask that doesn’t seal. And cheap fabric masks don’t seal.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

You

If the government really wanted to control you, they could ruin you financially

Like by shutting down your business with lockdowns, and placing people on government handouts?

They temporarily shut down businesses, and provided financial support so that the businesses and individuals could weather the lockdowns.

Going by statistics on bankruptcies, fewer businesses went bankrupt in the US, in 2020, than in the previous 'boom' years.

US Bankruptcies by year - Trading Economics

Putting large portions of the population effectively on house arrest. Then start implementing covid passports?

In countries where people did not defy the lockdowns, they worked, and were lifted when the situation improved. In other countries, where the virus was still spreading, clearly it was because people defied the lockdowns and still congregated. So the situation was never really properly resolved.

a reply to: chr0naut

The wave of COVID-19 bankruptcies has begun
February 28, 2021 at 6:04 am

www.seattletimes.com...

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

Where I live, in New Zealand, we don't have any cases of COVID-19 outside of quarantine.

Really?
No asymptomatic people there eh?

There have been symptoms, like other colds an flu' also cause, but no-one has tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Been that way for months.

Also, antibody testing of wastewater showed that the virus was not in the populace asymptomatically, either.

Lol
Red Red Red

I'm not a Republican party supporter?

The fact that you cant disentangle politics from an epidemic disease says much about you.

a reply to: neutronflux
Oops
Facts

It's about slowing infection and reducing R rate, until vaccine uptake reaches her immunity levels other measures of reducing spread will have to be used in conjunction to tackle the Delta wave the US is experiencing. This is something that occurs with every vaccine. No vaccine 100%, there's been a ressurgence in once extinct/erradicated viruses around the world due to the fake autism claims in the MSM during the 90s.The Daily Mail were the most vocal media outlet printing false anti-vax info which has caused a ew million preventable deaths worldwide. How the media mislead the public about Autism-MMR hoax



Masks offer very little protection to the wearer but depedent on type they reduce the tramsmission of covid by 12 - 20% which is a signiicant reduction due to viruses spreading exponentially: Nature - Efficacy of masks and face coverings in controlling outward aerosol particle emission from expiratory activities

Like the vast majority of vaccines the Covid jab doesn't cause sterilising immunity. The effectiveness levels are for symptomatic infection, the Pfizer jab is around 90% effective in preventing asymptomatic infection which is a massive reduction and more effective than most vaccines but not 100%. Real world study into Pfizer vax efficacy in preventing asymptomatic infections
Nature: Basic guide to vaccines and how they work


The vaccine is more more than effective to deal with isolated outbreaks of Covid but there's so much circulating in the US a combo of vaccine and other is the only way to stop the fourth wave the US appears to be entering when other countries are able to consider covid a thing of the past. It's the same concept all other vaccines and the concept of herd immunity are based on.

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I'm not sure why masks were recommended/chosen as the 'other' IIRC it was considerably less effective than good hygene/handwashing or social distancing (depending on which direction the wind was blowing).

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: chr0naut

The wave of COVID-19 bankruptcies has begun
February 28, 2021 at 6:04 am

www.seattletimes.com...

There are always bankruptcies. Some businesses are just a bad idea from the start.

But the truth is that overall, there have been fewer bankruptcies in 2020, than there were in previous years.

The economic disaster, and economic reset, is doom porn.

a reply to: chr0naut

There have been symptoms, like other colds an flu' also cause, but no-one has tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Been that way for months.

So you fundamentally misunderstand what an asymptomatic person is.
THEY DON'T SHOW ANY SYMPTOMS.

Also source or zip the wastewater testing bs.

And the red scare line you take is yours and chinas alone.