Trump Was Right - Herd Immunity via Covid-19 Recovery is The Way to Go.

Wrong. Trump wasn't the best President ever. Unless of course, being a traitor to your Country is at the top of your list on what you want from a President.

Trump is immature, self absorbed, and frankly a moron.

And history will see him that way. I know it's hard for you to see now, but you can count on it. Video doesn't lie.


a reply to: carewemust

a reply to: carewemust

You must of missed the news about Singapore, yeah?

With 182 new infections recorded on Tuesday, the country is reverting to the tight restrictions it had in place during May and June, shutting down dining in restaurants, closing indoor venues such as gyms and limiting gatherings to two people.

The development is a setback to Singapore’s ambition to start dealing with COVID-19 as it would influenza and treating it as an endemic and manageable disease rather than a pandemic.

www.smh.com.au...

I await the spin and deflection.

a reply to: carewemust

If that was the case why was he Queen Vaccine and for that warp speed s***?

"We'll have the best vaccines ever. So good. You'll all be magnetic."

originally posted by: litterbaux

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: carewemust

you keep failing to quote the soucres were

"anonymous" even when quoting my reply


But they must be true.....right?

Are you questioning the value or relevance of herd immunity?

Lay off the kool-aid and educate yourself.

where did i question herd immunity?

i questioned the integrity of praising an anonymous source, pour yourself another glass of "buzzword"

Of course Trump was right, it was his opposition who overflew the CCP Virus

The damaged caused is breathtaking and unimaginable, we've not even begun to juggle the fallout, weve still got the economy on life support which is millions of deaths because of cutbacks and extreme poverty, missed cancer treatments and screenings, missed Dr's appointments, bushiness destroyed, tens of millions of children's educations ruined, i mean the list is endless, lock-downs were the single biggest disaster in living memory

you cant stop a cold spreading, you simple just delay the peaks, the hospitals were never ever ever overwhelmed, and those vaccinated or not would still have died, and whats worst is they've made this winter flu viruses which younger and younger people will die far more virulent by suppressing them, cold and flus are completely different animals, the FLU will kill you, colds? not so much

Video doesn’t lie

The history books will look upon President Trump as one of the greatest world leaders of the 21st century

That’s obvious

As unbelievably as this may seem, there are actually people who are THICK enough to believe that he will ‘not be allowed’ to run in the 2024 elections.
That makes me smile.
His VP will be Candice Owens I’m hoping. Because a black female conservative is what the racist left hates the most.

and again, President Trump was right. As though ANYONE believed he wasn’t.

The Amish reached herd immunity early without taking the vaccine..... and they didn't all die off.
How did they do it?
They refused to isolate and they didn't wear masks. When they were forced to wear masks in a public setting, they were made of lace and were only fastened to the face at the top. They even kissed each other at church services and shared communion cups... in April of 2020.
If the Amish would have been dying off in droves, the rest of the MSM would have been trumpeting the news saying, 'See what happened to them because they didn't follow the science?'
NY Post

originally posted by: butcherguy
The Amish reached herd immunity early without taking the vaccine..... and they didn't all die off.
How did they do it?
They refused to isolate and they didn't wear masks. When they were forced to wear masks in a public setting, they were made of lace and were only fastened to the face at the top. They even kissed each other at church services and shared communion cups... in April of 2020.
If the Amish would have been dying off in droves, the rest of the MSM would have been trumpeting the news saying, 'See what happened to them because they didn't follow the science?'
NY Post

Its pretty much fact, those who lock-down the hardest had the highest mortality

Who would have though locking a human being at home for over a year would be catastrophic for their immune system, physical & mental Health?

Only a crazed Nazi or Communist despot could think such actions are good for such a low mortality virus

Nuremberg Trails 2 are very much needed for all government, academic, journalists who sold the big lie

a reply to: carewemust

On the money!

Something else that isn't being said. If we wouldn't have shut down and isolated, the antibodies in our bodies would have adapted and the "delta" variant would not be an issue.

a reply to: carewemust

As a general rule of thumb, the natural way is always the best way, and natural immunity will always beat artificial immunity. This was once common knowledge. That anyone thinks they can force us to give up our natural rights -- including our right to contract and recover from Covid -- is playing God. It's a very dangerous combination of ignorance and arrogance that puts everyone in harm's way.

What makes this exponentially worse is that the people were NEVER provided the information and knowledge necessary and appropriate to nurse and nurture ourselves -- our own bodies, our loved ones bodies -- with the healing substances of the earth all around us, nor the various pharmaceutical medications that could help our bodies fight Covid. In fact and in deed, we were denied this information, often under the guise of "misinformation" or "fake news."

Even as the medical industry feigned ignorance about this virus, they pretended to know what is "best" to combat it. Even as they cried about the virus overwhelming hospitals, they let others suffer and die from other conditions by denying the necessary and appropriate treatments. As they cried about the number of cases of Covid, they created countless other tragedies and crises for countless numbers of people. So many studies have shown that more people suffered, more people died because of the Draconian measures put in place than would have died from Covid if it had been allowed to run its course.

Worst of all are the many many people who were quite happy to jump on the Covid Tyrant bandwagon. The bullies have come out in full force, empowered and emboldened by lying liars to bully and harass and vilify their fellow citizens. How dare ANYONE to demand that anyone inject anything into their bodies. No one -- NO ONE! -- has the knowledge or wisdom to make such a determination for the world. None of these celebrities and politicians pushing vaccinations on the world have any real or personal knowledge of the short or long term effects of this vaccination, not for individuals and not for humanity as a whole. To be quite frank, they don't know #!

I don't know how to reverse this trajectory we find ourselves on. Perhaps it cannot be reversed. But I do know that God will not be mocked, and there is a special place in hell for those tyrants crapping all over natural and divine law. Especially people of faith who should know better.

For what have they gained if they save their lives but lose their soul??? HELL! That's what.

originally posted by: Boadicea
As a general rule of thumb, the natural way is always the best way, and natural immunity will always beat artificial immunity.

That's way too broad. Who TF wants to try and beat polio or smallpox?

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: carewemust

At that IFR there would have been at least 1.5 million deaths in the US and probably higher before herd imunity was reached.

Not if sane people

a) provided high quality recommendations for protecting those at most risk, and

b) used OWS to promote safe and potentially therapeutics like Quercetin, Zinc, D3, HCQ, Ivermectin - and yes, I'll say it again - high dose IV vitamin C for anyone who gets in real trouble.

IF that had been done, we'd have achieved true herd immunity (that can never be achieved through jabs), and the IFR would have dropped to .0000001%.

That also ignores other long term complications from contracting covid.

That are easily totally avoided or dealt with using proper therapeutics.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: Boadicea
As a general rule of thumb, the natural way is always the best way, and natural immunity will always beat artificial immunity."

That's way too broad. Who TF wants to try and beat polio or smallpox?

High dose IV vitamin C will cure them both, quickly and easily, 99.999% of the time (when used properly).

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

That's way too broad. Who TF wants to try and beat polio or smallpox?

Noting that I did preface this with "as a general rule of thumb," I would still say everyone if we knew how.

Long before the smallpox vaccine, it was known that contracting and recovering from cowpox also provided immunity from smallpox. It was common for everyone in a household with a cow to take their turns milking and tending to the cows in order to contract cowpox and develop their own immunities against small pox.

We now know that Vitamin A deficiency is a major cause of serious complications of measles -- both pre-existing and as a result of the measles. Standard treatment protocol now includes mega doses of Vitamin A, which has astronomically reduced the most serious complications even in the most poorly developed nations.

Unfortunately, we never found something similar for polio, and because we have a vaccine now, we probably never will. Given the potential catastrophic complications of polio, many/most would consider the polio vaccine the best option. However, just because it's the best we know does not mean it is the best that could be.

Like anything else, we have to weigh the risks vs rewards, the known vs the unknown, and take reasonable precautions for reasonable risks.

Nothing about Covid has been reasonable.

a reply to: tanstaafl

High dose IV vitamin C will cure them both, quickly and easily, 99.999% of the time (when used properly).

Thank you! I did automatically think of IV Vitamin C, and that would definitely be one my go-to's, but I had nothing to back it up.

Now that I think about it though, I do know that Klenner used high-dose Vitamin C to treat polio (and measles, and other diseases) with great success back in the '30s and '40s.

There has also been success with Vitamin C (and Vitamin D) with Covid, although there has also been much effort to debunk it. I've seen studies which claim it has no effect, but the doses were so low the studies are basically worthless. If I remember correctly, I believe Dr. Kenner dosed with about 5,000+ mgs per day for five days.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
High dose IV vitamin C will cure them both, quickly and easily, 99.999% of the time (when used properly).

Sure.

There is no cure for polio.

originally posted by: Boadicea
Long before the smallpox vaccine, it was known that contracting and recovering from cowpox also provided immunity from smallpox. It was common for everyone in a household with a cow to take their turns milking and tending to the cows in order to contract cowpox and develop their own immunities against small pox.

That's basically the same thing as being vaccinated, taking a weaker dose of the actual virus and allowing your body to build immunity.

originally posted by: butcherguy
The Amish reached herd immunity early without taking the vaccine..... and they didn't all die off.
How did they do it?
They refused to isolate and they didn't wear masks. When they were forced to wear masks in a public setting, they were made of lace and were only fastened to the face at the top. They even kissed each other at church services and shared communion cups... in April of 2020.
If the Amish would have been dying off in droves, the rest of the MSM would have been trumpeting the news saying, 'See what happened to them because they didn't follow the science?'
NY Post

This is a great point and probably won't be addressed in this thread by the "Fearers".

The Amish and Mennonite communities started buying up all the farms in our community about 10 years ago.

They have been nothing but a welcome addition, excellent neighbours and even friends.

I know some of them well, and talk to them regularly.

They haven't been effected by the "pandemic" at all.

They look at it as a bad cold, and try to look out for the elderly, that's it.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Boadicea
Long before the smallpox vaccine, it was known that contracting and recovering from cowpox also provided immunity from smallpox. It was common for everyone in a household with a cow to take their turns milking and tending to the cows in order to contract cowpox and develop their own immunities against small pox.

That's basically the same thing as being vaccinated, taking a weaker dose of the actual virus and allowing your body to build immunity.

So what? That's (vaxing instead) like opting for Elmer's over Gorilla to me.

I'm not feeling spiffy today. Could it be a cold? Maybe. Could it be the Rona? Maaaaybe. Do I care? Not really, I'm actually a little stoked to feel like crap, been a LONG damn time since my immune system did any REAL work for me.

I'll survive the Scratchy Throat, Headache & Sniffles 2021.

originally posted by: Nyiah
So what? That's (vaxing instead) like opting for Elmer's over Gorilla to me.

The point was is the same thing, just a different delivery system.