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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Vroomfondel
Masks work a hell of a lot better than nothing.
The vaccines, even better than that.
originally posted by: mbkennel
originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: EvilAxis
The study shows this MRNA vaccine caused the growth SARS COV2 proteins in the blood stream for 5 days after the first shot. How is that different than catching the SARS COV2 virus which causes the growth of SARS COV2 protein in your blood stream?
mRNA vaccine, and protein subunit vaccines (e.g. Novovax, which looks like a great vaccines) make one piece.
Real viruses are assembled, and are biologically active and have evolved to breach a cell's wall, and paratisise its replication mechanism. They're really dangerous and self-replicating.
It's like the difference between a T-800 Terminator with weapons which can also manufacture clones of itself (real virus) out of legitimate industrial machinery, vs a piece of a leg servo from a T-800 (the protein alone). That leg servo can't do anything on its own.
The vaccine is making antibodies to that 'leg servo' so it gets locked up and the terminator fails to be able to move and replicate, plus the vaccine induces plans to make drones called T-cells which blow up anything with that servo.
All this talk about 'natural immunity': well your natural immunity has fought off successfully many viruses that you never knew about, probably some of them were animal coronaviruses which have no known name that jumped to people but didn't get a population replicating foothold.
There's a major selection filter that you have to remember: any significant human infectious disease has a number of biological tricks to fool or bypass the natural human immune system---if it didn't, it wouldn't be known as a disease of any significance.
Look at smallpox: the worst infectious disease in history (extremely communicable, 10-30% death rate and major scarring in survivors). Human natural immunity was NEVER good enough to stop it. Native Americans with a diversified fully organic diet, fresh free-range grass fed bison, vegetables and fiber, plenty of vitamin D, tons of exercise and well adapted strong immune systems were blasted by smallpox.
Why is smallpox gone? Vaccinations. Only vaccinations. Nothing else did anything.
Vaccination is the most important medical invention in the history of human civilization. And people now are going crazy with the most ignorant conspiracies and pseudoscience.
Safe & effective vaccines, like the approved ones for Covid, are one area where I don't mind pharmaceutical companies making some money. They earned it.