The Insanity behind Covid

originally posted by: joejack1949
a reply to: InachMarbank

It kinda sounds like you and your boys had a mild case of covid-19. Did your wife and daughter also have a sore throat and loss of smell?

All 5 of us got sick.

a reply to: EvilAxis

I'm not going to be able to prove to you my opinion is absolutely true, at this time. But I don't believe this would have happened by coincidence. Most unlikely.

What do you know about using chemicals and enzymes to transcribe E Coli into viral RNA? My guess is not much. Me neither...

That sounds like some kind of virus cloning technology or something... And the efficacy rates of 95%... That sounds about as effective at triggering antibodies as catching the damn disease.

I'm not going to get tested. I know I caught a virus, and it seems much of it has been flushed out now. I can smell ok now too.

I don't come into close contact with anybody but my family, and I wear a mask when I shop.

Also, my reaction might be more noticeable than your friends because I have a hyperactive immune system.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I ask them.

originally posted by: InachMarbank

What do you know about using chemicals and enzymes to transcribe E Coli into viral RNA? My guess is not much. Me neither...

That sounds like some kind of virus cloning technology or something... And the efficacy rates of 95%... That sounds about as effective at triggering antibodies as catching the damn disease..

You are evidently not really interested in the science if you're adamant you've caught the virus from a vaccine which doesn’t contain a virus, but you are unwilling to employ a readily available scientific test to see if your opinion has any basis in fact.

a reply to: InachMarbank

Here is something that might help explain what happened to you.

MIT & Harvard Study Suggests mRNA Vaccine Might Permanently Alter DNA After All

In this article he talks about how the covid-19 virus can change the DNA of the host, and the possible consequences of that. However, it seems that through a very similar pathway the vaccine can also alter your DNA, in this instance, perhaps to "shed" or rather over produce the "S" protein, that's the part that allows covid-19 to bind and thus infect.

Not saying any of this is the actual case, just a possible explanation.

I agree, too many living to complain, and fight about it.

nothing says "crazy" like someone who believes in COVID conspiracies

Somewhere on the internet.

Anyone who questions the official narrative you are crazy and who belives in COVID conspiracies or pretend to be doctors.

This is how some sheeps actually think. Anyone doesn't believe the heroic doctors on TV you are crazy CT. Kinda reminds me if you support Trump or the right wing that makes you a Russian bot or something.

a reply to: EvilAxis

It contains viral RNA.

Can you find any solid claims that this viral RNA doesn't replicate??? I can't.

I have been searching and I find plenty of scientific literature that says RNA replicates.

You disputed my claim with anecdotal evidence saying your friends didn't experience anosmia from the MRNA vaccine. Talk about no interest in science to use such a narrow range of cherry picked data as a rebut.

Even if I test positive for COVID 19, that will not prove my opinion.

I checked ALL VAERS data for USA yesterday and there are have been more than 1500 complaints of anosmia reported.

I will be adding that to the list of vaccine complaints I will start tracking.

Speaking of which...

In the past 3 weeks there have been about 420 deaths reported to VAERS, and just 6200 since 1990. Talk about a relatively massive increase in vaccine deaths, comparing past 6 months to past 30 years.

a reply to: kykweer

Ok, I'll make something very clear-

Covid is real. Precautions should be taken in front of this new virus and some people will in fact be devastated by it.

NOW, we're talking about a very small % of people that will be affected by Covid so much. The survival rate is around 99.7% and it goes down to around 95-97% for people ~60 years old and above. Meaning it is the weakest "pandemic" we had to overcome considering how the vast majority of people have mild symptoms or even better, have no f-cking symptoms at all. I'm a nurse and I've seen the actual impacts of Covid on them and let me tell you... it's nothing like they portray. Sure, like I said some persons will take it very hard but It's so disturbing to see the amount of restrictions and damage they are bringing into our society for a stupid virus like this one.

If our whole civilization collapse because of Covid, damn how dumb are we for real?

originally posted by: InachMarbank

It contains viral RNA.

Can you find any solid claims that this viral RNA doesn't replicate??? I can't.

I have been searching and I find plenty of scientific literature that says RNA replicates.

That's because it does. However, the viral RNA produced by the mRNA vaccines only carries a small part of the information that would be required to produce the whole virus. It's not possible for our cells to make the virus from this.

For the same reason, although humans can reproduce, severed human arms can't. They're missing vital parts.

originally posted by: InachMarbank

You disputed my claim with anecdotal evidence saying your friends didn't experience anosmia from the MRNA vaccine.

I didn't dispute your claim that your friends experienced anosmia. I questioned your opinion that it was caused by the vaccine and told you what my experience has been.

originally posted by: InachMarbank

Even if I test positive for COVID 19, that will not prove my opinion.

It would show, with a reasonable degree of certainty, whether you have Covid. For some reason you prefer to arrive at your own diagnosis, while avoiding an effective and readily available test.

originally posted by: InachMarbank

I checked ALL VAERS data for USA yesterday and there are have been more than 1500 complaints of anosmia reported.

Bear in mind that, "Anyone can submit a report to VAERS... VAERS welcomes all reports, regardless of seriousness, and regardless of how likely the vaccine may have been to have caused the adverse event."

a reply to: Jimy718

The author of the opinion piece you quoted has drastically misrepresented the MIT paper he's citing. The paper does not show that the vaccines alter DNA. It does suggest (as has an earlier study) that Covid-19, like some other viruses, may insert genetic material into human chromosomes.

Another reason to avoid the virus, not the vaccine.

originally posted by: EvilAxis
a reply to: Jimy718

The author of the opinion piece you quoted has drastically misrepresented the MIT paper he's citing. The paper does not show that the vaccines alter DNA. It does suggest (as has an earlier study) that Covid-19, like some other viruses, may insert genetic material into human chromosomes.

Another reason to avoid the virus, not the vaccine.

Yes, I know the MIT paper doesn't show the vaccine mRNA altering DNA, the author was quick to point this out. He continues to show an analogous method through which mRNA may alter One's DNA.

It seems that it's all about triggering "reverse transcriptase", which the virus does on it's own, however, it seems that might also be caused by a cytokine reaction, common in vaccine reactions.

So, while perhaps not a reason to avoid the vaccine, it should give One pause, cause One to dig for further information, and of course thoroughly read and understand what One finds.

a reply to: St0rD

Are you only referring to American stats? You are aware it's a worldwide pandemic? Other countries are far worse off than you think.

Even if the survival rate is so high, the fact that the disease is so infectious means that deaths are high.

Maybe your country is doing fine, but here hospitals are full, so doctors are making people requiring intensive care waiting in the parking lot or sending them home, or they accept patients based on who is more likely to survive.

South America as far as I can tell is disastrous and we just passed 4m deaths around the world.

I don't see a societal collapse happening because of the virus, as vaccines become more available and as countries get vaccinated things are returning to normal. That's where you are now, lucky and comfortable, just because where you are things are not that bad...
But the world is bigger than that.

originally posted by: Madviking
a reply to: St0rD

The shocking lack of recognition of natural immunity for Covid, is a red flag for me.

Up until 2020, countless medical articles talked about natural immunity for most diseases meeting the following criteria:

1) As good or often better than vaccines
2) Usually lasting long-term and in some cases, for life
3) Contributing to herd immunity
4) Vaccines are only superior in providing immunity without having to go through the risk of severe illness

Suddenly, under Covid, none of this is true. Media is citing "experts" as a monolith as saying that they don't think covid immunity lasts, despite virtually all studies showing Covid antibodies lasting, and natural immunity not being sufficient. They've been utterly silent on natural immunity's contribution to herd immunity.

PSA: until the advent of modern vaccines, ALL herd immunity was created via naturally acquired immunity.

When the WHO and Co-partner in crime CDC changed the definition of Covid-19 "herd immunity" from Naturally Occurring to Vaccine-Induced, 5 months ago, another RED FLAG was hoisted. The flag pole is now loaded with Red Flags.

a reply to: kykweer

Well, I can't speak for all the countries in the world but here in Canada, I've seen first hand Covid impacts on the elderly and most of them mild symptoms like cough and low fever. Sure, some took it harder but overall my patients all went through like the flu. Considering the fact they literally talk about this virus all day everyday since last year, I'd have expected much more severity towards the main group at risk.

It's funny you say this virus is SO infectious when both of my collegues that contracted Covid kissed their romantic partner without infecting them in the end. What kind of infectious disease is that?
Sure, the new variants might differ a little bit but if you can't at least acknowledge there is something shady going on behind the scenes, man stop wasting my time.

a reply to: EvilAxis

So the RNA replicates, and the RNA gets your body to make SARS COV2 protein.

Even if the RNA cant make a whole virus, that doesn't really counter my point that the illness which the RNA and protein can cause, can be contagious.

Also, the VAERS data is likely to be underreported IMO, because the loved ones of the deceased are not likely to admit they made a mistake by taking the vaccine.

Surely if there's a death then it's recorded officially?

The vaers system is for reporting side effects right?

originally posted by: InachMarbank
a reply to: EvilAxis

So the RNA replicates, and the RNA gets your body to make SARS COV2 protein.

Even if the RNA cant make a whole virus, that doesn't really counter my point that the illness which the RNA and protein can cause, can be contagious.

Also, the VAERS data is likely to be underreported IMO, because the loved ones of the deceased are not likely to admit they made a mistake by taking the vaccine.

a reply to: St0rD

Solid reply.

Q. The OP titled this post from the point of view COVID and or the reasons behind it are insane, but are they?

Is that not just a point of view?

How about this hypothesis, obviously shortened so it’s an easy to read post.

How about, say 1,500 or more years ago you, along with a few select friends decided with some planning and careful forethought, you could ensure all “members” families would continue their lineage at the highest levels of wealth, power and control throughout all time.



Then, say 1,500 years later, when the population is massive, and the Earth is nearing the end of its life as the petre dish of humanity.

That, now much larger group of “members”, all who have been living off the backs of the billions of people, building a veritable automated utopia for themselves, decide it’s time to retire.

So they release a virus to kill the old and disabled, and scare many millions more. Then a vaccine to sterilise and harm the immune system, selectively.

Over the next generation or so those that didn’t take the vaccine either will or they will die, and the automation will be completed.

Many billions of people will have died slowly, on costly medication.

How many will survive?

a reply to: nonspecific

Not sure how many death certificates list "vaccine" as the cause of death.

Found this at thename.org...


Death certification

When completing the death certificate, if it is the opinion of the medical certifier
that the vaccine caused death, the vaccine and its fatal complications should be
reported in the proper sequence.

originally posted by: Jimy718

Yes, I know the MIT paper doesn't show the vaccine mRNA altering DNA, the author was quick to point this out. He continues to show an analogous method through which mRNA may alter One's DNA.

The MIT peer-reviewed paper, written by experts in the field, shows a mechanism by which the virus could alter human DNA. Your source who did has no training in virology, has no published peer-reviewed papers in that field (or any other), but sells essential oils, fails to show any plausible mechanism by which the vaccines could do the same.