The Secret Life Of Fairies

a reply to: sapien82

the one know pictured in this post is for Fire, Water and Earth.

what do you mean by earning it?

If you can stand the pain and know the meanings of them and they resonate with you then you earned them.

i only have two tats and they are at most 4 inches across.

I got mine done when i was in NZ when my GF and i spent a summer there and we made friends with a TON of Māori people and my buddies dad gave me my tattoo and if i remember correctly it was like a shark tooth or something like that on the end of a stick.

they would dip it into in and then tap the back of the stick when the tooth is on your skin and that's how they draw the tattoo.

In reality the best we can ALL hope for is to die in our sleep, so a little pain reminds me that I'm still alive. (sick as that may sound) I'm not a cutter or anything but can appreciate traditional pain induced spiritual experiences

a reply to: penroc3

i dont do facebook or Insta or any social media..



if you want some ink go get it.

a reply to: penroc3

well I want to get a celtic tattoo but I want to get it once ive completed a specific task ive set myself
the ancient celts / picts tattood their bodies for battles as recognition on the battlefield but not for decoration
so i think they'd tattoo their victories or defeats like battle scars.

a knot is a continuous loop and so i wanted to get it done once im happy I have achieved my goals.

I already have a full sleeve on my right arm of artwork and a tattoo on my left wrist but nothing else yet.

MY friend has a lot of pict designs on his body and there are some great images in george bains book
so I think ill get one ive always liked the triskele spiral , my friend christi has one on her wrist also.
i think most of my friends who have tattoos in Scotland has at least one celtic design on their body.

this is the ouroboros we painted



when i first got my tattoo sleeve I really enjoyed the pain it was like a meditation

a reply to: sapien82

at 36 i have lived my battles and lost a few(won more )


but I figured I paid for mine in blood and pain. And I proved y self as a 'warrior'..


how did you paint that brushes or air/cans looks great

a reply to: sapien82

Ludovic Mann - I'm not surpriised the experts didn't like him. He painted over the Cochno stone with oil paints. Apparently to prove a theory of his.


(Image is public domain)

While looking up the Picts; a reference to the matrilineal linage of kings:

The Picts are often said to have practised matrilineal kingship succession on the basis of Irish legends and a statement in Bede's history. The kings of the Picts when Bede was writing were Bridei and Nechtan, sons of Der Ilei, who indeed claimed the throne through their mother Der Ilei, daughter of an earlier Pictish king.

Source Wikipedia

a reply to: penroc3

hey mate , aye it was aerosol paint , and thanks very much

had a great weekend there painting , but it was raining mostly all weekend .

Aye we all have battle scars in one form or another , some of them arent as visible
Ill fire up a pic of my tattoo once I get it for sure

a reply to: sapien82

as silly as it sounds my best friend from when were were like 7 went together to get the traditional tattoos and i wanted the ouro and she got the same thing i got but around her arm.

she has the the heart scale from the Egyptian book of the dead, where they put you heart on one side and a feather on the other and if your heart is heavier than the feather its no good for you lol.

we spoke about her getting the ouro as I was getting mine done and she said that she wanted the same thing so that no matter what we will always be connected, and that's totally fine with me.


dont post your ink to the board, its an identifying mark, you can PM me it. you show me yours and ill show you mine lol.

Tattoos . . .

I met a Berber girl the other day who thought I was a fairy of some sort. She has the tats on her face and hands.

Apparently she has them to attract the things she should have/wants in her life.

I have a black panther and a dragon . . . .

Hiatus post

Decided to have an open-ended hiatus.

If you're interested in reading more about the yellow fae I refer to as Wednesdays; I wrote a lot about them over on the thread everyone loves to hate, but secretly wishes they were there.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

Thank you for sharing your stories. They are so interesting.

a reply to: jannybobani9

Your welcome, I kinda got caught in another thread as I was heading out the ATS door for a break. ; )

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

In part of the Middle East, pregnant women were considered most vulnerable to the evasion of "neighbors". I am not sure why, but the most vulnerable of the pregnant population, was the woman pregnant with a baby boy.
It was thought that a neighbor clones the boy and creates an identical twin spirit which is of opposite gender, a girl. That girl is called "Areene" or "Kareene". That Areene is considered malicious and is thought to want to take the place of the boy. The danger was heightened during the third trimester.

I had a pregnant female relative who would stay up all night when the areene's activity was high. I would wake up at night to get water or something, I would see her sitting up in the dark, eyes wide open and sweat on her face. As though she had been fighting the areene. She would describe the areene climbing on curtains and jumping through the house. At some point, the areene leaves the mother and her dreams alone.

A pious Muslim woman would pray to resolve the issue. Some women would melt lead in boiling water and read the outcome to send the areene away. If a Muslim woman melted the lead in boiling water, she had to pray for forgiveness for 40 days, as it was considered some form of magic and frowned upon.

a reply to: jannybobani9

Hi janny

What you write reminds me of the fairy lore of changlings, where a fairy would take a human child and leave something in exchange. The stories mention wooden logs with a glamour cast upon it to fool the people until the fairy made it's getaway. Some stories say another fairy would take the baby's place.

I have seen the fairy make the twin with the girl, and the wombless boys cannot create the twin. So some fairies in the Middle East have worked out alternative ways. Mind you, I don't go about 'looking' into random female anatomy on the street to study. that would be rude.

In the Australian indiginous folks lore there are stories of girls becoming pregnant and the babies disappear mysteriously leaving them an empty womb.

In part of the Middle East, pregnant women were considered most vulnerable to the evasion of "neighbors". I am not sure why, but the most vulnerable of the pregnant population, was the woman pregnant with a baby boy.
It was thought that a neighbor clones the boy and creates an identical twin spirit which is of opposite gender, a girl. That girl is called "Areene" or "Kareene". That Areene is considered malicious and is thought to want to take the place of the boy. The danger was heightened during the third trimester.

That is interesting, I am in Australia and rarely get to hear of the lore other countries. Even here in "multicultural" Australia the indiginous folks keep their lore to themselves mostly.

So the Areene is engineering a little different to the fairies I am used to. I know the Djinn have a long association with the people of the Middle East. The alchemists of long ago were interested in the Djinn's way of creating twins. I have seen some of that.

I had a pregnant female relative who would stay up all night when the areene's activity was high. I would wake up at night to get water or something, I would see her sitting up in the dark, eyes wide open and sweat on her face. As though she had been fighting the areene. She would describe the areene climbing on curtains and jumping through the house. At some point, the areene leaves the mother and her dreams alone.

A pious Muslim woman would pray to resolve the issue. Some women would melt lead in boiling water and read the outcome to send the areene away. If a Muslim woman melted the lead in boiling water, she had to pray for forgiveness for 40 days, as it was considered some form of magic and frowned upon.

There is a way to ward of some of the fae that cause folks problems with less then good intentions. It may be regarded as magic. But if you had someone stay over again it may be a way around the prohibition by solving the problem before hand with no one knowing it was done.

I burn powdered sulfur to clean houses with help from the fairies of the yarrow plant Achillea millefolium. In the biodynamic agriculture, Rudolph Steiner called sulfur one of the Light Bearers. That is to say there is a spiritual light that is only present where sulfer is present.

The yarrow is a herb also used in biodynamic agriculture. Just having it grow in the garden has a wide area effect. The Nature Spirits associated with the yarrow herb are experts with sulfur within the garden, soil and plants.

So what I would do is dry some yarrow leaves and dust it with the powdered sufur to make an incense.

Then I would walk about in the house and go from room to room opening the cupboard doors, drawers and robe doors.

Not much smoke is required, usually I just walk into the room and waft the smoke with an open hand a few times, then walk to the next room, while avoiding breathing the smoke.

When ready, I would light the yarrow incense and walk through the house wafting the smoke about room to room. One trusts that the Nature Beings know what to do. Generally I politely talk to the remedy before hand as I make it to instruct the remedy in what I want to achieve.

Then I just leave the house for a while, ten minutes or so. Then just walk about and open the windows to air the house.

What that achieves is to light up the house, lots of things that prefer the absence of light will find it uncomfortable and leave. I try and warn them before hand of what I am about to do. It is the polite thing to do.

The effect lasts for a while, years around my house when repeated a few times.

Sulfur fumes should not be inhaled, and not used around pregnant mums to be. It also smells bad. One doesn't have to fumigate the house, one can walk through a whole house in a minute or two. If there is a fan or airconditioning I will turn it on before walking outside to circulate the sulfur fumes.

To take into account the Areeme, and I have not tested this, I would get a beeswax candle and simply light it in the guestroom for a time after the sulfur treatment. Here I would ask the flame to disperse the beeswax fumes and create a Areeme proof seal around the room.

Basically the idea is the fumes of the burning wax of the candle will adhere to the walls and ceiling like cooking with oil in a kitchen will leave an oily film on the ceiling and walls. Repeat a few times alternating the sulfur and yarrow with the beeswax candle afterward and the room would be clean for quite some time. Months probably, at least untill the walls were cleaned with water and detergents.

The idea isn't to hurt anything, just shoo them away and then seal the room so they don't get in again.

The Muslim lore is interesting. Very close to corresponding with fairy lore when one takes into account the cultural differences and geographical backgrounds.

Do feel free to share more on the Areeme and other Djinn lore janny, so very interesting.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

I know a couple of people whom I can call and ask questions. I did call, and they happened to have male presence who immediately made themselves known (Haha), so I couldn't inquire too much because usually, the males disdain this kind of discussion. I will try again another day. I feel like most of the time during my upbringing, I was shielded from a lot of the information, the older women did all the work and often told me to go play and not worry about what is going on. I think it so happens that I am the "young" one. Suffice to say, all the older women are gone one way or another.

When I described the need for the women who practice such a thing to pray for 40 days for forgiveness, I characterized it incorrectly because really, it is not the regular prayer that they must do for 40 days. They need to abstain from regular prayer for 40 days, as a punishment, and there is a specific prayer they must do in its place. As you know, the Muslim prayer is six times a day, so they would have to be in this "state" for 40 days, 6 times a day before they are freed. That is why they used to keep me away from it so that I didn't have to suffer that consequence. It is so common and common knowledge, none of this is a secret, at all, but as common as it is, I cant find anything about it on youtube or the internet anywhere.

There are markets called "souk", that are very narrow and old, maybe hundreds of years old markets. Inside those markets, there are very strange people and very strange "bathhouses". The deeper you go the stranger it gets. If you walked very deep into the souk, you can find sheiks that can tell you all about this stuff and create a remedy for almost anything. It is mixed with commercialism to a high degree, so you must know how to haggle and how to "see through" the BS. I know of several women who would go in there to get their ingredients for spelling at night when no one else was around.

Have you ever seen what the Koran says about the Jinn?
I have it from good authority that I can say the word "Jinn".
A good place to start can be "Sourat El-Jinn" which is the scripture specifically concerning the Jinn.
You may already know everything here.
But if not, it is a good place to start. People's knowledge and lore expand beyond what the Koran says.

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Edit to add: please know that every "Soura" starts with extreme worship and praise, the information you would want to know that you know, is after that intro.

a reply to: jannybobani9

I wouldn't want anyone to get in trouble. So perhaps better not to ask.

The sulfur/yarrow/beeswax remedy above comes from the fairies and is for Areene and similar Beings. I understand it won't bother the constant companion / spiritual double of the human.

I will put the remedy into practice first in my home, and then go 'looking' to see what can be found.

Have you ever seen what the Koran says about the Jinn?
I have it from good authority that I can say the word "Jinn".
A good place to start can be "Sourat El-Jinn" which is the scripture specifically concerning the Jinn.
You may already know everything here.
But if not, it is a good place to start. People's knowledge and lore expand beyond what the Koran says.

"You may already know everything here." - You might be surprised how little I know, I am not well versed in the fairies outside of those I have met myself. The Australian fae where I live I notice but don't have much to do with them.

I did listen yet the words did not connect me with anything consciously. Reading the Wikipedia entries for Jinn and Al-Jinn has a lot of material which says a rich history.

There was mention of the Jinn fearing iron. That is the same as Irish folklore where iron is used to ward off fairies.

The Dana Sidhe create the twin as I have described. From your description I gather the Jinns do things differently, perhaps with a different purpose in mind?

I found this interesting:

The jinn apologize for their past blasphemy and criticize mankind for either neglecting them or encouraging their disbelief. (underline mine)

Source: wikipedia : Al-jinn

Oh, and I don't want you to say anything you shouldn't here.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

The sulfur/yarrow/beeswax remedy you mention is interesting, I'd like to give that a shot and see what happens. Yarrow is not native to my area, but I see I can get it from botanical shops in dried form. Do you think that would work as well?

I got through to my friends and got the step-by-step remedy they use in my hometown for areene. I gotta admit, it is a little weird, for someone like me, very engrossed in this world, I am unable to see how on earth these things would come together for the desired effect.

The first thing that must be determined is whether there is an " evil eye" on the pregnancy of the female. That "eye" is likely something many around the world have heard of, the protection against it is a specific set of glass beads called Hamsa, or some call it Kharze zar2a (the #2 in the word makes the sound of a throat pop "a" sound - it is not a typo), that are placed on a woman's being while pregnant (and other times if there is a concern - some always have it on), and a mix of gold engraved scripture from the Koran. The evil eye literature can be found here:
en.wikipedia.org...

The blue bead details can be found here
en.wikipedia.org...

The beads protect from the evil eye that can be caused by jinn or ins (human), but it does not always protect. There are powers that are stronger than the beads.

To determine whether there is an evil eye, you get a container of water, in it you place scissors and a comb ( have no idea why). You then get the lead out of a bullet after slicing it in half, and you place the lead on a spoon. You heat up the spoon by lighting fire under the spoon until the lead melts. You seat the female somewhere, so that the position of her head is under that bowl of water with the scissors and a comb, and you dump the melted lead into the waterbowl. There are 2 things that can occur, it can go "bang" and that means the evil eye curse has popped. Or it can go "fisss" and that means either there is no evil eye, or the evil eye curse has not popped. You can repeat for 7 times, then you must stop and wait a moon rotation before trying again. In either event (bang or fiss) you can look at the shape the lead takes, and my friends say sometimes you can see the shape of the eye take figure very clearly in the lead. They say sometimes there are other telling shapes and for that you need an expert to decipher. If a "bang" is never achieved, it is said there is no evil eye, or the evil eye is too strong. Once the bang is achieved, you wrap the melted and cooled-off lead in a cloth and place under the pillow of the pregnant female, there were no consensus among my friends of how long that lead needed to stay under the pillow; I guess a moon rotation since that seems to be the benchmark. The water in the bowl needs to be dispensed of at a cross road, showing care not to spill it anywhere else, especially in the home.

Once the eye is popped, any jealousy or ill intent towards the woman or the pregnancy is removed, it can keep coming back though and the process needs to be repeated. This process cannot be done by oneself to oneself, nor can it be done by a member of the family (by blood relation), it has to be done by a stranger to take effect. In order to cleanse the area from the presence, readings from scripture (any - what Muslims call "Godly" scriptures) needs to occur, that is any of the 3 books. Islam believes in Christians and Jews and considers those books Holy.

The highest chance of the areene's desires for being achieved towards replacing the unborn child, is during a phase of the pregnancy when the female gives control of her body to her son. It is said that around 3rd of 4th month, the control of the mother's body is passed on from the mother to her infant. Now the infant determines what the mother will eat, whether she will work, he also determines her mood and can wreak hormonal havoc (like music to a mother's ears). That is why Muslims allow abortions prior to 3rd month (first trimester), because the infant is not considered an entity until it takes control of its mother's body. During that passing of control from the mother to the son, the areene can swoop in. You can imagine the disdain a mother might feel when the areene has given her a hard time, and at delivery time she births a girl. One used to be able to hear the screaming and the whaling from the birthing room at the sight of a birthed girl, it was so sad. But these days the culture is changing and women are taught that is not true and that only what is meant to happen will be, and that these are just tales.

a reply to: jannybobani9

I realized I left off an ingredient that is supposed to go in the water bowl with the comb and the scissors. That ingredient is a green stem. There is supposed to be a green plant - some people use part of a branch or stem of an herb, the only requirement is that the green stem is alive and has no flowers.

a reply to: jannybobani9

I got through to my friends and got the step-by-step remedy they use in my hometown for areene. I gotta admit, it is a little weird, for someone like me, very engrossed in this world, I am unable to see how on earth these things would come together for the desired effect.

It's alright I can. The part about the stem in the water is important to make sense of it. I was scratching my head and then saw the short post about the stem.

The sulfur/yarrow/beeswax remedy you mention is interesting, I'd like to give that a shot and see what happens. Yarrow is not native to my area, but I see I can get it from botanical shops in dried form. Do you think that would work as well?

The dried is fine. If you can grow yarrow in your garden I would suggest doing so.

I'll give you a little history on how the remedy was developed. You will need to understand what it is you are doing.

The sulphur. Ever wondered why hell is often described as sulpherous? Sulphur cleans corruption. Sulphur is one of the Light Bearers in the Household of Nature. We had sulphur drugs for treating infections before antibiotics. It is medicinal in many ways.

If we add fire to sulphur the it burns and also creates an atmosphere where the fumes are. The smell in a room for example.

If we want to add intellegence to what we are doing we have our own intellegence that opens the robe doors,strikes the match and so on.

The Nature Beings of the yarrow herb are experts in regards to sulphur. So we enlist their assistance. Trust them, they know what they are doing.

So we take the dried herb and dust it with the yellow powder. I just put the herb in a bag with perhaps a teaspoon of sulphur and shake. Then in a suitable bowl that won't crack with heat, we set fire to the incense as described earlier.

The idea is for the sulphur to coat the room with a very thin layer of fumes. The yarrow Nature Beings can do this. Reapeat a few times and the light of the sulphur is stronger. Yet only a little is needed, surprisingly so.

There is a principal I think is important when doing these things. Don't hide what you are going to do. You're a cleaner with the equivalent of a "broom" is all. We don't want to hurt anyone. So leave the doors open and the back door to the house. Work in a way that lets whatever may be in the house have an escape route. We are just cleaning house.

With the help of the Nature Beings of yarrow what we can achieve is a lasting presence. When we burn the herb there is the fiberous plant material to think of as well as the suphur.

What we need to know is there is created a layer of sulphur and also a layer that looks like hessian. House walls are sometimes hessian and plaster in layers.

The beeswax candle burned for a time afterwards is an additional layer to our boundary "wall".

So do this a few times perhaps a week apart. What we are building is a wall that has an inner light of it's own.

I use that for general "gremlins". The ones who don't mind spiritual lights are not affected. Just the ones who prefer the darkness. If I had pregnant women staying occassionally I would create a guest room that has a sturdy layer in this way in advance.

So perhaps we have the problem of "astral intruders" of the human/animal variety.

So lets add another dried herb to the incense: stinging nettle Urtica urens. It can be bought online.

The nettle is like yarrow, but instead of working with sulphur, nettles are experts with iron.

This is what I would do, and there is room for further research into it.

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a reply to: NobodySpecial268

When you have the ingedients together, and just to make sure; you want a natural beeswax candle. We'll practice on your home. Then I will show you the principals how to work it at a distance.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

you every worry that one day something will hear you call and might be what you were expecting and might not leave, ever kind of like a shadow

In Dante's Inferno in one of the last rings of hell were people who did things I cant say on ats and in the story it says these sinner were still know to the narrator at the time, so he was surprised to see him in hell, the person said his sin was so bad that his soul was replaced by a demon