The Secret Life Of Fairies

a reply to: sapien82

Mushroom goddess? If that is what I think it is, nope : )

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

I wouldn't shrug it off like that... I thought we agreed on diffrent cultures diffrent appearance...

But in order to see if there are similarities, a more in dept description if that mushroom goddess would be helpful.

yeh its exactly what you think it is

I just wonder what connection if any there is between the fae and the mushroom goddess
being both nature based entities would be interesting to know.

it seems humans have a rich history with psychedelics and contacting beings
wonder if these are connected in some way.

Of course I can shrug it off like that : )

The subject of "_____" is prohibited here on ATS.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: NobodySpecial268

I wouldn't shrug it off like that... I thought we agreed on diffrent cultures diffrent appearance...

But in order to see if there are similarities, a more in dept description if that mushroom goddess would be helpful.

originally posted by: sapien82
yeh its exactly what you think it is

I just wonder what connection if any there is between the fae and the mushroom goddess
being both nature based entities would be interesting to know.

it seems humans have a rich history with psychedelics and contacting beings
wonder if these are connected in some way.

Even in Carlos Castaneda it was said that "power plants" were unnecessary and all you needed to become a "sorcerer" was to "stop the world". To do that one learns to stop the internal dialog as the tool.

My presumption of Don Juan's definition of "stopping the world" is "disengage". Presumably "disengage" is followed by "reengage".

"Reengage" implies a choice. "Reengage" the normal world, or, presuming there is a choice, "reengage" elsewhere or elsewhen.

In my own words: Look between two thoughts. That is the void. Within the void (de-void of thought) one can encounter other Beings. One can "reengage" with them and/or their networks.

I would add my own home grown rules of thumb here:

1. Maintain a strong sense of self; a strong sense of being me.
2. Avoid the "oneness trap" (see rule 1).

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

Sure i always forget about t&c especially considering that particular section. It's interesting that a conspiracy site is not allowing discussions about a Fundamental conspiracy so old and damaging for our society just because it is illegal, which is part of the conspiracy. you can't really go into the full depth without breaking t&c, which in today's day and age is a shame.

There is a book by Sergius Golowin, called "Magie" , where he expounded the many similarities between the magical beings, the known and used psychoactive plants, and how many sories (märchen funnily enough translates to fairy tale) begin with the protagonist meeting some being, that mostly has attributes that can be found in the diffrent psychoactive plants, which then brings him to the fairy world...

obviously it is not necessary but it is there and the link is undeniable. Which brings up couple of question.
if fairies are the gardeners why would they embed doors in plants?
Maybe because mirrors are rather new?
Maybe they want animals too?
Maybe just another error on the loose?
maybe the intellect wasn't always dominant enough to actively steer our thoughts in between and these natural nodges were necessary?

a reply to: Terpene

Sure i always forget about t&c especially considering that particular section. It's interesting that a conspiracy site is not allowing discussions about a Fundamental conspiracy so old and damaging for our society just because it is illegal, which is part of the conspiracy. you can't really go into the full depth without breaking t&c, which in today's day and age is a shame.

It is what it is . . . .

Which brings up couple of question.
if fairies are the gardeners why would they embed doors in plants?
Maybe because mirrors are rather new?
Maybe they want animals too?
Maybe just another error on the loose?
maybe the intellect wasn't always dominant enough to actively steer our thoughts in between and these natural nodges were necessary?

My suggestion is to put those thoughts into some sort of context.

Doors? There is only one reason to create a door; to keep people out.

Fairies neither create nor use "doors" themselves, humans do . . .

however . . .

. . . fairies use doors to fool humans ; )

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

My suggestion is to put those thoughts into some sort of context.

I'd rather not, unless you want me banned, what a dilemma we'd better focuse on the thoughts in between as a gateway. call it door, whatever, it is something that allows your mind to cross

a reply to: Terpene

I'd rather not, unless you want me banned, what a dilemma

You're the one pushing it, I stated nope very clearly.

the thoughts in between as a gateway. call it door, whatever, it is something that allows your mind to cross

"between"? do you mean between two thoughts? That's just an absence of thought. There is no "crossing".

a reply to: sapien82

If you go on your trek to Schiehallion, the yellow line is about a third of the way up the mount at that location.

The line is 4m X 4m (1m = 1 yard) thereabouts, and has a radii of about a fifty meter presence ("aura" if you prefer). You should be able to pick up it up with the bronze dowsing L-rod. To find lines in the landscape I sometimes use a bronzing rod from the hardware store. First find the surrounding presence and then the line proper.

Fair warning; the line is a fairy road. So no telling who may notice you first : )

If you're not wanted they'll let you know. Either way, trust the rod. The fairies can interact with it to show you the way or show you the way out.

Be clear in your thoughts, they will watch the pictures in people's minds and read the feelings behind them.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

whats your thought on string theory or brane theory

people right now are theorizing or brain works like a quantum computer, or brain cells have tiny tube like structures on the NANO scale they think work like qubits, billions and billions of qubits.

androids the lot of us. and we don't even know it.

a reply to: penroc3

whats your thought on string theory or brane theory

Not much at all penroc, I don't know anything about those ideas.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

Hey mate thanks for the info , yeh I plan to go a wee visit to Schiehallion soon
Ill try and get some dowsing rods set up

You know what I find interesting is that the way you have drawn that line reminds me of what locals say that there is a cave on each side and they are connected and they are fae caves

wouldnt be surprised if the line you have drawn goes from one entrance to the other

I think we will try and go before the end of september before the weather turns
I will take pictures and will see if I can see anything interesting or feel anything odd

I have no intentions other than simple curiosity, I love nature so Im very interested to know more about it and the fae apparently are so entwined with nature that it makes sense to learn about their role with nature.

The reason I brought up the mushrooms is because mycelium form networks from tree to tree and act as a communications grid between trees, so I am curious to know the connection between mushroom and fae if any , as mushrooms appear to be intelligent so they must have a role to play with the fae , mushrooms are apparently one of the oldest organisms on earth so it would make sense that the fae have some sort of connection with them.
I mean in old illustrations they would always have the faerie depicted sitting on a flyagaric mushroom.

thanks again for taking time to reply and provide us with more information
I love this thread and its made me feel good about things at present
which is nice because the world is in such a bad state right now Id do anything to try and make it better
and to get our species more in balance with nature

a reply to: sapien82

You know what I find interesting is that the way you have drawn that line reminds me of what locals say that there is a cave on each side and they are connected and they are fae caves

wouldnt be surprised if the line you have drawn goes from one entrance to the other

I think we will try and go before the end of september before the weather turns
I will take pictures and will see if I can see anything interesting or feel anything odd

With a bit o' luck, your trip may bear some sort of fruit. I hope it does. If the 4m X 4m line and the fairy cave line up one can speculate that there is probably a fundamental difference between a fairy road traveling through a solid such as the mountain, and a less dense medium such as air. My educated guess is a fairy road passing through a mountain would be like a cave at some level of consciousness, or fairy magic.

I have a similar place I have "looked" within in the granites not too far from my home. Within there is a workshop by the looks, tools and in the next "room" is the body of a woman giant still in her armor. Probably died there. I am fairly sure it is one of the fairy Lilith's people, the thirteen foot tall girl Lilith had the relationship with. Tuath Dé Danann? They wore armor and liked hand weapons, in particular spears. Beautiful people, both males and females wore next to nothing. The women wore gossamer thin see through clothes, loved gems and jewelry. They were terribly vain and probably kept slaves judging by the carefree lifestyle. I haven't physically found a way in there yet, getting out again might be a problem.

So take care, and remember the fairy lore about people disappearing . . .

Here is a refined pic via google earth. So looking vertically from above. 160m horizontally from Sandy's lookout to the vertical location of the line. The fairy road may be above or below the crossing of the two lines in the image below.

I have no intentions other than simple curiosity, I love nature so Im very interested to know more about it and the fae apparently are so entwined with nature that it makes sense to learn about their role with nature.

A good sentiment to go in with.

The reason I brought up the mushrooms is because mycelium form networks from tree to tree and act as a communications grid between trees, so I am curious to know the connection between mushroom and fae if any , as mushrooms appear to be intelligent so they must have a role to play with the fae , mushrooms are apparently one of the oldest organisms on earth so it would make sense that the fae have some sort of connection with them.
I mean in old illustrations they would always have the faerie depicted sitting on a flyagaric mushroom.

I've not speculated in that way, so your probably on to something there. The mycelium would be a network of consciousness connecting the living things of the land. The fairies would travel such a network I am sure.

The flyagaric, well . . . some more speculation: it would not surprise me to learn that the fairies can make use of the flyagaric's unique properties when they cast their glamours on humans. That may be a key there to understanding how the fairies work some of their magic when it comes to altering human consciousness.

That of course would be on the fairy's terms and they would no doubt be experts on what to bring out of the mushrooms to achieve their intentions. I would think that the fairy would greatly refine the flyagaric properties.

That idea would explain how a fairy can alter a human's perception so people could see into, and interact with the fairy realm.

That concept fits in with my studies into what fairies "eat" from my orchard and garden.

thanks again for taking time to reply and provide us with more information
I love this thread and its made me feel good about things at present
which is nice because the world is in such a bad state right now Id do anything to try and make it better
and to get our species more in balance with nature

Your welcome, I enjoy writing about these things and gives me ideas for more study when folks like yourself ask questions. The flyagaric is one I will ask the fairies about. I am interested in how it is done.

I have just about got together an adaptable concept for The Fairy Way that ordinary folks can put into practice simply. The principal of the Sitting Stone for instance that could initiate the fairy human girl relationship. That can be done by an independent family without the need for any religious or spiritual institutions. No one outside immediate family would need to know . . .

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268
a reply to: sapien82

From my post above:

The flyagaric, well . . . some more speculation: it would not surprise me to learn that the fairies can make use of the flyagaric's unique properties when they cast their glamours on humans. That may be a key there to understanding how the fairies work some of their magic when it comes to altering human consciousness.

That of course would be on the fairy's terms and they would no doubt be experts on what to bring out of the mushrooms to achieve their intentions. I would think that the fairy would greatly refine the flyagaric properties.

That idea would explain how a fairy can alter a human's perception so people could see into, and interact with the fairy realm.

That concept fits in with my studies into what fairies "eat" from my orchard and garden.

From fairy lore:

A Vision Of The Dead

There once dwelt in Nithsdale a woman who was enabled by fairy aid to see the spirits of the dead in the Other World. This was how it came about. One day she sat spinning wool in her house. Her baby lay in a cradle beside her, listening to the soft humming sound of the spinning wheel and her mother's sweet song. Suddenly a rustling, like the rustling of dead leaves in the wind, was heard at the door. The woman looked up and saw a beautiful lady, clad in green and carrying a baby. She entered, and smiling sweetly, spoke and said: "Will you nurse my bonnie baby until I return?"

The woman answered: "Yes, I shall do that."

She took the baby in her arms, and the lady went away, promising to return. But the day went past and night came on, and still she did not come back for her child. The woman wondered greatly, but she wondered even more next morning when she awoke to find beside her bed beautiful new clothes for her children, and some delicious cakes. Being very poor she was glad to dress her children in the new clothes, and to find that they fitted well. The cakes were of wheaten bread and had a honey flavour. It was a great delight to the children to eat them.

The lady did not return that day or the next day. Weeks went past, and the woman nursed the strange child. Months went past, and still the lady stayed away. On many a morning wheaten cakes with honey flavour were found in the house, and when the children's clothes were nearly worn out, new clothing was provided for them as mysteriously as before.

Summer came on, and one evening the lady, clad in green, again entered the house. A child who was playing on the floor stretched forth her hands to grasp the shining silver spangles that adorned her gown, but, to his surprise, his hands passed through them as if they were sunbeams. The woman perceived this, and knew that her visitor was a fairy.

Said the fairy lady: "You have been kind to my bonnie baby; I will now take her away."

The woman was sorry to part with the child, and said: "You have a right to her, but I love her dearly."

Said the fairy: "Come with me, and I shall show you my house."

The woman went outside with the fairy. They walked through a wood together, and then began to climb a green hill on the sunny side. When they were half-way to the top, the fairy said something which the woman did not understand. No sooner had she spoken than the turf on a bank in front of them lifted up and revealed a door. This door opened, and the two entered through the doorway. When they did so, the turf came down and the door was shut.

The woman found herself in a bare chamber which was dimly lighted.

"Now you shall see my home," said the fairy woman, who took from her waist-belt a goblet containing a green liquid. She dropped three drops of this liquid in the woman's left eye, and said: "Look now."

The woman looked, and was filled with wonder. A beautiful country stretched out in front of her. There were green hills fringed by trees, crystal streams flashing in sunshine, and a lake that shone like burnished silver. Between the hills there lay a field of ripe barley.

The fairy then dropped three drops of the green liquid in the woman's right eye, and said: "Look now."

The woman looked, and she saw men and women she had known in times past, cutting the barley and gathering fruit from the trees.

She cried out: "I see many who once lived on earth and have long been dead. What are they doing here?"

Said the fairy: "These people are suffering punishment for their evil deeds."

When she had spoken thus, the fairy woman passed her hand over the woman's eyes, and the vision of green hills and harvest fields and reapers vanished at once. She found herself standing once more in the bare, dimly-lighted chamber. Then the fairy gave her gifts of cloth and healing ointments, and, leading her to the door, bade her farewell. The door opened, the turf was lifted up, and the woman left the fairy's dwelling and returned to her own home.

For a time she kept the power of seeing the fairies as they went to and fro near her house. But one day she spoke to one of them, and the fairy asked: "With which eye do you see me?"

Said the woman: "I see you with both my eyes."

The fairy breathed on her eyes, and then was lost to sight. Never again did the woman behold the fairies, for the power that had been given her was taken away from her eyes by this fairy to whom she had spoken.

Source: Scottish Wonder Tales from Myth and Legend by Donald Alexander Mackenzie. Free to read and download from Internet Archive Org

The fairy ability of altering human awareness described in this story has remarkable similarities with modern alien abduction accounts.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

aww man its like they can give you the ability to see them freely and then take it away at a moments notice
if they have the ability to alter our perception so easily they must be very powerful beings indeed

its a wonder they require our help with anything

which leads me to believe we have some ability or something about us that they cant do or wont do for reasons unknown and they need our help.

Which is totally baffling

a reply to: sapien82

There are to many unknowns to say for certain that they really need our help, by the description in this thread, I'd wary of mind games. Pretending to be the victim is an age-old one.

a reply to: sapien82

aww man its like they can give you the ability to see them freely and then take it away at a moments notice

One can look at it like that.

Personally I think the wet nurse was very well paid for looking after the fairy's child. The fairy left new clothes and food for her children. The fairy also gave her gifts of cloth and healing ointments. The fairy sight was also a gift.

if they have the ability to alter our perception so easily they must be very powerful beings indeed

Why are you surprised?, fairy lore is full of reasons why folks need to show respect for the fae-kind.

I have seen some things in the company of the Wednesdays. They switched off my cultural inhibitions to lessen the emotional impact. Then turned it on again afterwards. Instantaneous; like flicking a light switch. A demonstration at the time.

its a wonder they require our help with anything

which leads me to believe we have some ability or something about us that they cant do or wont do for reasons unknown and they need our help.

Which is totally baffling

They existed before us and therefore without us . . .

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

I'd wager a guess and say they have never dwelled in the euclidean space, until we arrived?

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

seems they were at one point just as curious about us as we were them , they stopped being as seen because we started to become more aggressive and turn our backs on nature ?

or was it because we became more involved in religion ?

or both

a reply to: sapien82

maybe just a breakup gone wrong