Verdict GUILTY

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Fortunately, justice was served today.

It wasn't though

What happened today was a point being made, a point I agree with, but not in this manner.

He was overcharged, and shouldn't have been found guilty on all charges.

Justice would be the appropriate charges and convictions.

Justice just got slapped in the face today.

a reply to: RMFX1

I mean more like, if you genuinely believe justice has been served and this is a good thing, explain yourself reasonably and at least try to have a discussion without resorting to insults and pointless posts.

originally posted by: Bunch
a reply to: wdkirk

I got news for you.... more than half of that 60% is not on your side.

I don’t have a side.

originally posted by: Joneselius
What an absolute abortion of justice.

Evil is good and good evil in the land of America. You're under Gods judgement now. Kiss your once beautiful nation goodbye.

Moral depravity will increase, lawlessness will increase, JUSTICE will not be done and tyrants will rule you.

Enjoy.

Maybe I'm mistaken but this verdict was delivered after taking every possible step to respect the sanctity of how justice in America was designed to work. Chauvin was given every opportunity to present his case and his defense failed.

originally posted by: BrokenCircles

I didn't think it was possible. I thought murder required intent, whereas manslaughter requires a lack of intent...

Actually 2nd degree I think you need to be in the act of committing a felony as part of it...You rob a bank and kill someone type of thing.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Maybe I'm mistaken but this verdict was delivered after taking every possible step to respect the sanctity of how justice in America was designed to work.

I don't know if I find that sentiment funnier or if I'm laughing harder at the knowledge that some otherwise intelligent people actually believe that this had anything whatsoever to do with respect and sanctity of a justice system that is on the road to being utterly broken and failing with decisions such as todays just accelerating that brokeness and failure.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: BrokenCircles

I didn't think it was possible. I thought murder required intent, whereas manslaughter requires a lack of intent...

Actually 2nd degree I think you need to be in the act of committing a felony as part of it...You rob a bank and kill someone type of thing.

So many things are a felony nowadays, it's impossible to live life as a normal person and not have committed one. You may not have been caught, and likely it was something you didn't even realize, but you have a 99% chance you committed a felony in your lifetime, according to the laws on the books.

a reply to: TzarChasm

I think part of the issue a lot of people have with the verdict comes down to the political pressure around this and the threats of violence and mayhem surrounding it long before the jury went to deliberate.

There's some pretty solid evidence pointing to this being manlaughter at best. A lot of people have heard the details of the case beyond the all so important video.

It's pretty hard to believe the jury wasn't feeling at least a little bit of pressure after politicians openly encouraged violence based on the verdict and when talks of violence over it have been pretty open for weeks.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Maybe I'm mistaken but this verdict was delivered after taking every possible step to respect the sanctity of how justice in America was designed to work.

I don't know if I find that sentiment funnier or if I'm laughing harder at the knowledge that some otherwise intelligent people actually believe that this had anything whatsoever to do with respect and sanctity of a justice system that is on the road to being utterly broken and failing with decisions such as todays just accelerating that brokeness and failure.

Because the rules didn't work in your favor, doesn't mean the rules are broken.

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: TzarChasm

I think part of the issue a lot of people have with the verdict comes down to the political pressure around this and the threats of violence and mayhem surrounding it long before the jury went to deliberate.

There's some pretty solid evidence pointing to this being manlaughter at best. A lot of people have heard the details of the case beyond the all so important video.

It's pretty hard to believe the jury wasn't feeling at least a little bit of pressure after politicians openly encouraged violence based on the verdict and when talks of violence over it have been pretty open for weeks.

Well, a verdict was delivered and the judge accepted it. Whatchagunnado.

a reply to: TzarChasm

The jury was indirectly threatened.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Joneselius
What an absolute abortion of justice.

Evil is good and good evil in the land of America. You're under Gods judgement now. Kiss your once beautiful nation goodbye.

Moral depravity will increase, lawlessness will increase, JUSTICE will not be done and tyrants will rule you.

Enjoy.

Chauvin was given every opportunity to present his case

I think that is a valid point. To me, it doesn't really seem like true justice is being served these days. It's only who has the better lawyers to put on the best case.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Well, a verdict was delivered and the judge accepted it. Whatchagunnado.

Not much, but the consequences of this decision are going to be more far reaching than a lot of people seem to think.

You know that saying about not pissing off the people that prepare your food?

Yeah...that...but cops...

originally posted by: CosmicUmbra
a reply to: TzarChasm

The jury was indirectly threatened.

I do believe part of the verdict process is confirming the jury has not been coerced or otherwise manipulated.

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Joneselius
What an absolute abortion of justice.

Evil is good and good evil in the land of America. You're under Gods judgement now. Kiss your once beautiful nation goodbye.

Moral depravity will increase, lawlessness will increase, JUSTICE will not be done and tyrants will rule you.

Enjoy.

Chauvin was given every opportunity to present his case

I think that is a valid point. To me, it doesn't really seem like true justice is being served these days. It's only who has the better lawyers to put on the best case.

It's never been any different though.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

Because the rules didn't work in your favor, doesn't mean the rules are broken.

Was that accepted in light of the long list of prior cases involving police who killed uncooperative arrestees they were trying to subdue? It would seem the "rules" were followed then moreso than today, yet we saw cities burning and Americans behaving like animals and thieves in the night over it. But here we sit, with people trying to drown out opinions that today's verdict wasn't just wrong, but that it involved a manipulated case and is symptomatic of a broken justice system. That's a big tell in my opinion. Those burning down buildings, looting, vandalizing, and assaulting people in a tempertantrum over the justice system were painted as "mostly peaceful protestors" and their actions were presented as carrying some sort of vital message while today's verbal dissenters are being blasted as "racists" "fascists" or "bigots" and their verbalization of their opinion on the manipulation involved in this verdict are absolutely being censored on many platforms. Always seek that which the machine is working the hardest to shut up and there you will usually find the closest thing to the truth that exists.

originally posted by: CosmicUmbra
a reply to: TzarChasm

The jury was indirectly threatened.

Please post sauce I would be quite keen on learning more regarding this untimely accusation.

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Joneselius
What an absolute abortion of justice.

Evil is good and good evil in the land of America. You're under Gods judgement now. Kiss your once beautiful nation goodbye.

Moral depravity will increase, lawlessness will increase, JUSTICE will not be done and tyrants will rule you.

Enjoy.

Chauvin was given every opportunity to present his case

I think that is a valid point. To me, it doesn't really seem like true justice is being served these days. It's only who has the better lawyers to put on the best case.

That's a much better point than attempting to wave off a valid verdict because "obviously they were too scared to admit Chauvin is innocent and it was a blatant mistrial".