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originally posted by: djz3ro
a reply to: Cirice
Not a fan of people being "born to reign over us"...
The Duke of Edinburgh's funeral will take place next Saturday at 15:00 BST at St George's Chapel, in Windsor, Buckingham Palace has announced.
The arrangements, which "celebrate" a life of service and "very much" reflect the duke's wishes, have been adapted in light of the coronavirus pandemic.
The Duke of Sussex will fly in from his home in the US to join other members of the Royal Family at the ceremony.
Earlier, royal gun salutes across the UK and at sea marked the duke's death.
There will be eight days of national mourning ahead of the televised funeral, which will be a ceremonial royal funeral rather than a state funeral.
www.bbc.co.uk...
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: UKTruth
I'll bet that the Sussex's have probably had a bit of a row about him attending the funeral.
originally posted by: micpsi
No. Prince Philip was kept merely the consort of the Queen because, irrespective of gender, genetic descent ALWAYS takes precedence over marriage. There was also a political reason for why Philip was never made king through marriage. He had German relatives and there was powerful opposition, even extending to the Queen's mother and the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, over the Queen marrying this penniless aristocrat with German links. It would have been unthinkable in Britain in the postwar years to have someone with such close links becoming king. Both the Establishment and the people would have been in opposition to it.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: UKTruth
Another Wallis Simpson, I fear.
originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
originally posted by: micpsi
No. Prince Philip was kept merely the consort of the Queen because, irrespective of gender, genetic descent ALWAYS takes precedence over marriage. There was also a political reason for why Philip was never made king through marriage. He had German relatives and there was powerful opposition, even extending to the Queen's mother and the Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, over the Queen marrying this penniless aristocrat with German links. It would have been unthinkable in Britain in the postwar years to have someone with such close links becoming king. Both the Establishment and the people would have been in opposition to it.
The Queen herself had strong German links, coming from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The Royal Family only adopted the surname Windsor in 1917 for presentational reasons.
The reality of resistance to Philip was more nuanced than that. He was Lord Louis Mountbatten's protege, who was resented by many, in government and in the royal family, for having ideas above his station. Philip had a lot of doors opened and ladders held for him, including in his Royal Navy career, and there was understandable resistance.
Churchill had no say in the wedding because he wasn't the Prime Minister at the time. He had been handed his political teeth in a cup by Clement Atlee's socialists in a landslide election before the war had even finished. Atlee, a reserved man at the best of times, went with the official royal line.
At a tangent, don't believe the wall to wall nonsense on the British MSM about a nation in grief. Stalinist billboards and 144 page newspaper supplements aside, it seems like a majority of people are nonplussed. BBC1, Britain's main TV station, showed back to back tributes last night - and suffered a 60% fall in viewing figures.
originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
There's another nuanced history. Churchill was pretty much the only politician on the right to mistrust Hitler and the Nazis. Edward and Simpson were very close to Hitler and the Nazis. Simpson was a suspected Nazi spy for a while. Churchill did not like Simpson. But he supported Edward passionately. Why?
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: Bluntone22
There was a scene in the Crown which nailed it for me, when they demonstrated that Elizabeth was a symbol of national unity, like an archetype basically - who embodied the spirit of the people across long periods of time, beyond the short cycles of political leadership. I now have a strong liking for the principle of royalty, though we can only hope that those who are blessed with it will embody it correctly, and help us in our quest to be the best we can be as a nation. Obviously Prince Andrew & the Harry & Meghan thing has totally spun a down into the present situation. It's on Her Majesty to bring it home for the team.
LONDON: Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip received Covid-19 vaccinations on Saturday, Buckingham Palace said, as the country surpassed three million cases since the pandemic began last year. A source told the domestic Press Association news agency that the 94-year-old queen and Philip, 99, were given the injections by a royal household doctor at Windsor Castle. “The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh have today received Covid-19 vaccinations,” a Buckingham Palace spokesman said, in a rare public comment on the private health matters of the long-serving monarch. It is understood the queen decided the information should be made public to prevent inaccuracies and speculation. No further details about the vaccinations were released.