A New Feature from Google for Your Consideration and Convenience

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

So I can search specifically for a black owned business and thats not racist.

But if I note the race of the guy that cooks my burger... that IS racist?

You did not simply note the race of the guy that cooked your burger. You delivered a critique of his cooking based on his race.

And yes, that is racist.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: MarkOfTheV

So I can search specifically for a black owned business and thats not racist.

But if I note the race of the guy that cooks my burger... that IS racist?

You did not simply note the race of the guy that cooked your burger. You delivered a critique of his cooking based on his race.

And yes, that is racist.

My stepmother is imported direct from China, as she likes to smile and say wryly.

My little white derriere can't cook any specific cuisine from China for # (more than just "Chinese" to their foods, kid) Can people critique ME for that? (yes, yes they can, don't even try to deflect)

originally posted by: TheResidentAlien
a reply to: interupt42

It's not the algorithm. If you are a business owner you now have the option to include the following options on your Google Business Profile:

Identifies Black-Owned
Identifies Veteran-led
Identifies Women-Led

No, you cannot add Asian owned, Native American owned, Latino owned or choose any other ethnic group.

Thanks for tge clarification but It was more of a sarcastic joke.

However what if i identify as blacked owned ?
How much black do you have to be?
What happens if you are black but didn't vote for biden, can you still mark it as black owned?

a reply to: Lumenari

Affirmative Action is...our own government publicly stating that minorities and women are not as capable as the average citizen, so they need a helping hand to be equal.

You have understood the basic principle, at least. Although in this case it’s Google, not the government, that is applying the policy.

Still, well done!

But what you evidently have not understood is the reason why ‘minorities and women are not as capable’. It is due to the fact of their systematic repression on a historical timescale by those who hold the power in Western societies. This results in an effective disability, for which the victim deserves to be compensated.

It is possible to have a civilized conversation on the merits and drawbacks of affirmative action as a policy. And it is certainly possible to argue that it is an unfair, foolish or simply ineffectual policy. But we aren’t going to have such a conversation on Above Top Secret, are we?

a reply to: Flatcoat

My cousin's wife is Thai and makes the best satay chicken ever, but can't cook a steak to save herself. How on earth is that "racist"?

It’s racist because it puts forward her race as the explanation of her culinary abilities and disabilities.

Which, if you think about it for even a second, is bloody stupid.

a reply to: Astyanax

It sounds to me that you would like for people to just ignore race altogether and never bring it up in any circumstance. It does not seem possible to use race as a detail in a story without you spinning it to be some sort of covert racism.

My point in relaying personal experience with many different races in restaurants was supposed to illustrate how silly searching for a business by race is. But that flew way over you and you just called me a racist... again.

Because looking up businesses by race... isn't racist... to you.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Flatcoat

My cousin's wife is Thai and makes the best satay chicken ever, but can't cook a steak to save herself. How on earth is that "racist"?

It’s racist because it puts forward her race as the explanation of her culinary abilities and disabilities.

Which, if you think about it for even a second, is bloody stupid.

It sounds to me that you have an equal issue with culture as well as skin color. We cannot appropriate, but we also can't appreciate.

You got issues, dude. Or dudette. Or whatever you identify as.

a reply to: Nyiah

My little white derriere can't cook any specific cuisine from China for # (more than just "Chinese" to their foods, kid) Can people critique ME for that? (yes, yes they can, don't even try to deflect)

Are you saying people can criticize you for not being Chinese if you tried to cook a Chinese dish and it wasn’t very good? How silly.

Your friends can criticize the food, and maybe take issue with your attempt to cook Chinese when you’re hopeless at it. But they can’t criticize you for not being Chinese. It has nothing to do with the question.

Your inability to produce authentic Chinese (Cantonese, Hokkien, Szechuan, Hakka, what you will) cuisine is due to

• a lack of experience in the authentic flavours and textures of Chinese food
  
• a lack of knowledge on how to produce these flavours

These difficulties can quite easily be rectified without you needing to change your ethnicity.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Nyiah

My little white derriere can't cook any specific cuisine from China for # (more than just "Chinese" to their foods, kid) Can people critique ME for that? (yes, yes they can, don't even try to deflect)

Are you saying people can criticize you for not being Chinese if you tried to cook a Chinese dish and it wasn’t very good? How silly.

Your friends can criticize the food, and maybe take issue with your attempt to cook Chinese when you’re hopeless at it. But they can’t criticize you for not being Chinese. It has nothing to do with the question.

Your inability to produce authentic Chinese (Cantonese, Hokkien, Szechuan, Hakka, what you will) cuisine is due to

• a lack of experience in the authentic flavours and textures of Chinese food
  
• a lack of knowledge on how to produce these flavours

These difficulties can quite easily be rectified without you needing to change your ethnicity.

Culture, again, is something you have a pretty blatant issue with, as we're starting to see the more you yap. ANYONE can slap something into a pan on the stove, mix # together, and call it XYZ cuisine. IMO, people who truly capture what the essence of that culture's food is to the palate, and to the nose, ARE the natives. It's not racist, it's their culture, their cuisine, their history -- it's THEM. Unless you're going to agree that I can now suddenly open up an African-culture specific restaurant, or Southern Soul Food joint and get in on that cushy racial pecking order Google listing.

And how old are you? I swear, you're as wet behind the ears as a 20 year old. Seriously, naive to the hilt.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

It sounds to me that you would like for people to just ignore race altogether and never bring it up in any circumstance.

No. I think it’s perfectly in order to acknowledge someone’s race (or, to be a bit more scientific about it, their ethnicity). Most people are proud of their roots and are happy to be so identified. But to attribute personal qualities and abilities to somebody’s ethnicity -- or race, if you insist -- is the very definition of racism.

looking up businesses by race... isn't racist... to you.

It might be, if I was looking for Black-owned business to firebomb.

But if I prefer to patronize Black-owned businesses out of a desire to promote Black entrepreneurship, or a general desire to improve economic conditions for minorities, or simply because I feel more comfortable dealing with Black folk, that’s hardly racist. It’s my right, my privilege, and it harms no-one.

a reply to: Astyanax

I feel more comfortable dealing with Black folk

Why?

a reply to: Nyiah

the more you yap

Keep a civil tongue in your head, young woman.

Unless you're going to agree that I can now suddenly open up an African-culture specific restaurant, or Southern Soul Food joint and get in on that cushy racial pecking order Google listing.

Do so by all means. You won’t be hearing any complaints from me, except about the food.

And how old are you? I swear, you're as wet behind the ears as a 20 year old. Seriously, naive to the hilt.

See above, concerning civility. I have an equally low opinion of your intelligence but I don’t really see how airing it will move the conversation forward, so I keep it to myself. I advise you to do the same.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Why?

I don’t, particularly. It was a hypothetical example.

originally posted by: MarkOfTheV
a reply to: Astyanax

I feel more comfortable dealing with Black folk

Why?

Yes, they need to answer this one, because it's wholesale bull# racism by their very own definition. If anyone had said they prefer dealing with Hispanics, Asians, white folks, etc because personal comfort zone, s/he'd have crawled up their ass to bitch about how racist it is.

a reply to: Astyanax

Ok... what explanation for being more comfortable around black folk would not constitute racism in your eyes?

You said it's hardly racist to suggest such a thing.

So please tell us how you could keep from "attributing personal qualities and abilities to somebody’s ethnicity -- or race," in explaining why someone prefers the company of black folk.

originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Flatcoat

My cousin's wife is Thai and makes the best satay chicken ever, but can't cook a steak to save herself. How on earth is that "racist"?

It’s racist because it puts forward her race as the explanation of her culinary abilities and disabilities.

Which, if you think about it for even a second, is bloody stupid.

Satay chicken is a Thai dish, she is Thai. She has spent her whole life cooking and eating Thai food. She is also a Hindu/Buddhist which is why she doesn't eat steak. So yes, her race is why she is good at one and not the other. Calling this "racism" is a typically stupid progressive viewpoint who see someone's skin colour as their most important defining characteristic....which, in my view, is actual racism.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Ok... what explanation for being more comfortable around black folk would not constitute racism in your eyes?

Being Black oneself would be the most obvious one. Most people feel relatively more at ease with others of similar appearance and culture.

Also, if one was Black, one might wish to avoid the potential for being patronized, feared or insulted by a white person.

Please tell us how you could keep from "attributing personal qualities and abilities to somebody’s ethnicity -- or race," in explaining why someone prefers the company of black folk.

Personal qualities and abilities are those of an individual, not of a race. I should have thought that was obvious.

a reply to: Astyanax

Also, if one was Black, one might wish to avoid the potential for being patronized, feared or insulted by a white person.

Don't you think that's a little racist towards white people? Why do you automatically assume that white people are going to insult black people?

Seems to me you're attributing personal qualities to white people. I thought that was racist?

a reply to: Flatcoat

Satay chicken is a Thai dish

Actually it’s chicken satay, and it’s more correctly a Javanese dish, not a Thai one. Satay is a Malay word.

She is also a Hindu/Buddhist which is why she doesn't eat steak. So yes, her race is why she is good at one and not the other.

She doesn’t eat beef because of her religion, not her race.

Calling this "racism" is a typically stupid progressive viewpoint who see someone's skin colour as their most important defining characteristic....which, in my view, is actual racism.

This is nothing to the point, but it does reveal a great deal about you.

a reply to: MarkOfTheV

Don't you think that's a little racist towards white people?

Not at all.

Why do you automatically assume that white people are going to insult black people?

I don’t.

What I wrote earlier was in pretty plain English. Do you require a paraphrase?