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originally posted by: Antipathy17
Even if there is no fraud at all and therefore no evidence of fraud is possible. How can you trust an investigation when the evidence hasn't been secured for considerable time?
If I were to commit fraud I wouldn't just leave the evidence around. Any window of time to destroy evidence in that scenario would be welcome. A month and a half though... I could destroy all kinds of evidence and even plant "evidence" of my own in the contrary.
I wouldn't be too enthusiastic about this. Disappointment will likely follow.
...railroading...
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Boadicea
You realize that of all the states in question, AZ is most likely to be the one Biden legit won.
I thought PA would most likely be a Biden state. He was born in Scranton, and worked for nearby Delaware.
But on the other hand, he told the 750,000 oil/gas workers in PA that their jobs will be wiped out by his Admin.
Regardless, Joe Biden didn't get more votes than Barack Obama, as the "official" numbers indicate. It's common sense.
originally posted by: Nivhk
a reply to: opethPA
Again you neglect to answer a question, ramble with whataboutism then proceed to play the victim card.
Agenda noted, any more posts from you will be ignored.
Have a nice day.
As for on topic, lack of ANY evidence or findings is just as guilty of finding evidence of fraud.
What about the polling centers found burning files after ballots were counted? Because some asshat thought "they weren't needed".
That's an illegal act that just got swept under the rug.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: opethPA
Oh dear... you really thought that was an appropriate response? Got nothing but poking and prodding for cheap points on an issue that's tearing our nation apart?
If you don't see any cause for concern, okay. If you can dismiss every accusation and claim out there because you have personal knowledge of the facts, you should be relieved and pleased that the truth will finally be known, so we can put the matter to rest, or we can make the appropriate reforms.
We'll find out together what actually happens and what is found. And then we'll all go from there.
Do you honestly think that if this audit completes and no fraud is found that the same people on this site or anywhere else still thinking Trump is going to ride into DC and drain the swamp will all of the sudden put this to rest?
From the Contract: 8. Customer shall take any and all action necessary or appropriate to assert all applicable or potentially applicable exemptions from disclosure under the FOIA Statute and take all other legally permissible steps to resist disclosure of the Information including, without limitation, commencement or defense of any legal actions related to such disclosure. In the event Customer receives a request for Information under the FOIA Statute, Customer shall inform Dominion of such request within ten (10) days of Customer's knowledge or such shorter period as necessary under the FOIA Statute to avoid prejudice to Dominion's ability to oppose disclosure, Dominion shall use its best efforts to assist and support Customer's exercise of any statutory exemption in denying a records request under the Freedom of Information Act (5 ILCS 140/1 et seq.). In the event that Customer becomes subject to fines, costs or fees pursuant to Section 11 of the Freedom of Information Act (5 ICLS 140/11) relying upon Dominion's claim that the information requested is exempt, Dominion shall indemnify Customer for those fines, fees and costs, notwithstanding any other provisions In this agreement. In the event Customer is required by court order to disclose any of the Information, Customer shall give written notice to Dominion at the earlier as soon as reasonably practical after tile imposition of such an order.
This is reeeeal disturbing...
...now why would you have this in your contract if you’re on the up and up?
originally posted by: LordAhriman
Serious question. How can something without internet connectivity be hacked?
Jan. 10, 2020, 4:36 PM MST
By Kevin Monahan, Cynthia McFadden and Didi Martinez
It was an assurance designed to bolster public confidence in the way America votes: Voting machines “are not connected to the internet.”
Then Acting Undersecretary for Cybersecurity and Communications at the Department of Homeland Security Jeanette Manfra said those words in 2017, testifying before Congress while she was responsible for the security of the nation’s voting system.
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But that is an overstatement, according to a team of 10 independent cybersecurity experts who specialize in voting systems and elections. While the voting machines themselves are not designed to be online, the larger voting systems in many states end up there, putting the voting process at risk.
That team of election security experts say that last summer, they discovered some systems are, in fact, online.
“We found over 35 [voting systems] had been left online and we’re still continuing to find more,” Kevin Skoglund, a senior technical advisor at the election security advocacy group National Election Defense Coalition, told NBC News.
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originally posted by: Enduro
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Boadicea
You realize that of all the states in question, AZ is most likely to be the one Biden legit won.
I thought PA would most likely be a Biden state. He was born in Scranton, and worked for nearby Delaware.
But on the other hand, he told the 750,000 oil/gas workers in PA that their jobs will be wiped out by his Admin.
Regardless, Joe Biden didn't get more votes than Barack Obama, as the "official" numbers indicate. It's common sense.
I didn't think Biden had a prayer in PA. Catholics , Pipeliners / Frackers , Steelworkers were very Anti - Biden. No way did Joe get 500k more votes that Obama and Hillary in PA.
2020 Biden PA votes 3,458,229
2020 Trump PA votes 3,377,674
2016 Hillary PA votes 2,926,441
2016 Trump PA votes 2,970,733
2012 Obama PA votes 2,907,448
2012 Romney PA votes 2,619,583
More at: ktar.com...
PHOENIX — Maricopa County will begin a forensic audit of its tabulation equipment on Tuesday Feb 2nd, less than a week after voting to move forward with the process despite continued defense of the integrity of the 2020 election.
The first of two independent firms will get underway with the audit at the Maricopa County Elections Department at 9 a.m., the department said in a press release.
The audit plan calls for both firms to analyze the equipment’s hacking vulnerability, assure tabulators weren’t sending or receiving information over the internet and confirm that no vote switching occurred during the election.
Audit work is expected to continue through February and March, according to the plan.