COVID has killed 1 out of 1000 in the US

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: daboxfan

It takes months to assemble all the data for deaths. We will not have an accurate number of deaths for 2020 until next summer, maybe later.

The statistics for 2019 deaths just recently got released.

We do have good estimates from what the final number will be, that figure is around 3.2 million.

2019: 2.85 million total deaths
2020: 3.2 million deaths estimated.

Is 3.2 million greater than 2 85 million?

Furthermore, this is largest % increase since 1918.

And here is the another undeniable figure, life expectancy is expected to drop 3 years as a result of COVID.

I believe you ....


What's the significance of 400,000 more deaths in one year when around 3 million people die very year regularly?

Ten years from now when those extra 400,000 have been mourned and we have moved on with with our lives as best we can with out our grandmother or grandfather ... what will be the long term ramification of having those deaths occur in 2020 instead of being spread out over the next handful of years?


I wonder what the death rate is going to be in 2022, 23 and 24? Will it be lowered by the 400,000 that have died in excess this year?

People bandy about numbers all day long; death rate; case count; excesses deaths over the year ... I don't see much in the way of discussing the ramifications.

A co-workers wife lost her sense of smell and taste.
She went to get tested for COVID at the urging of her doctor. The doctor said that she , her husband and children had to quarantine until they got a negative test result.
The test results for both the husband and wife were negative.
She had a cold that progressed to sinusitis.
He lost four days of work.

a reply to: butcherguy

Glad it was negative. Those were classic symptoms though. What if it had been positive? Seems sensible advice.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Breakthestreak

I just got over the virus.

I can tell you it is real and something you do not want to catch.

I guarantee if you had a moderate case of COVID, your outlook would change.

nice appeal to authority. Yep, I had it too. Like a really sh!tty cold that lasted about 4 weeks longer than it should have. Still don't know if I can get it again.

But to argue over factual numbers is well, stupid. in a few weeks, the totals will be in, and there won't be any room for fear mongering over what might happen, we will have facts. They won't lie. And the entire world will know if the covid was the planet killer it was billed as. till then, enjoy the circle jerk.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: jrod

Ooo. Scary. Better wear your mask and scream at anyone you see not wearing theirs for your safety.

Other than that, *eyeroll* who the f cares.

Nice

I'm sure someone f'ing cares..as long as it's not you ..amiright!!

a reply to: KKLOCO

Because all deaths are Covid related now.

Not all.

Sure, lumping everything together and labelling them as Covid deaths is giving a somewhat skewed picture.

One example is an uncle of mine.
He was 87 years old and fell down the stairs as many of his age are prone to do.
As a result he was hospitalised and routinely tested for Covid 19 and the result came back positive.
Sadly my uncle died indirectly as a result of his injuries.
Yet quite bizarrely he was included in the coronavirus related figures even though he had none of the symptoms.

But many people with existing health issues are dying of ailments after catching this bloody virus who would otherwise have not died.
Yes, they were ill, but not terminally.

Nobody ever died of HIV.
People die of secondary infections and cancers.
So those who die of pneumonia as a result of being HIV+ should not be included HIV and AIDS related figures?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: butcherguy

Glad it was negative. Those were classic symptoms though. What if it had been positive? Seems sensible advice.

Just showing that some people can't smell or taste when they get a cold. It used to be common knowledge before Covid.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: butcherguy

Glad it was negative. Those were classic symptoms though. What if it had been positive? Seems sensible advice.

Just showing that some people can't smell or taste when they get a cold. It used to be common knowledge before Covid.

One of my buds lost his smell and taste, was told to get tested, 2 tests 5 days apart..both negative, he had a low fever some of that time. When he was tested, they told him the test was about 70% accurate.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Funny you say that.

331, 208 deaths per 331 million(population of US) reduces to just over 1 per 1000.

My math is flawless, the guy you started misled you by using bad numbers.

But please tell me how I am stupid and can't do math.....

Are you disputing the claim that many deaths were attributed to covid where the person would have died regardless if they had covid or not? In other words many people have died of diseases and afflictions not related to covid yet were documented as the death being caused by covid.

What do you think about how hospitals are given extra money from the government if the person died and had covid symptoms regardless if they had even tested positive for covid or not? Obviously the hospitals need money and they wouldn't be breaking the law if they recorded that the person that had died had the sniffles before dying so as to allocate some funds?

Do you really believe the Covid death toll numbers fed to you by the government and mainstream media? I mean no one with critical thinking skills above Gump would. You are welcome to bask in your ignorance while projecting it on others however, just don't sit there and act like you are so smart and we are just little dummies while in reality you are just making a fool of yourself.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: KKLOCO

Because all deaths are Covid related now.

Not all.

Sure, lumping everything together and labelling them as Covid deaths is giving a somewhat skewed picture.

One example is an uncle of mine.
He was 87 years old and fell down the stairs as many of his age are prone to do.
As a result he was hospitalised and routinely tested for Covid 19 and the result came back positive.
Sadly my uncle died indirectly as a result of his injuries.
Yet quite bizarrely he was included in the coronavirus related figures even though he had none of the symptoms.

But many people with existing health issues are dying of ailments after catching this bloody virus who would otherwise have not died.
Yes, they were ill, but not terminally.

Nobody ever died of HIV.
People die of secondary infections and cancers.
So those who die of pneumonia as a result of being HIV+ should not be included HIV and AIDS related figures?

I think the issue is we don't know who was really terminally ill vs who wasn't because the data has gotten really muddy...What we do know though is those that die tend to be pretty far along with co-morbidities.

I think you'd see some significant differences in average age at death if Covid was really the cause.

Less than 1% of America’s population lives in long-term care facilities, but as of December 17, 2020, this tiny fraction of the country accounts for 38% of US COVID-19 deaths.

covidtracking.com...


Connecticut 65% of their COVID deaths are from LTC FACILITIES, yet we are supposed to believe that sans COVID none of these at risk ant elderly persons wouldn't have passed away from something else in 2020. Hell it's already been shown only 6-7% of the deaths are strictly from COVID and not from some underlying condition or factor.

originally posted by: tamusan


If you know how to search and read, it has. There were 400,000 excess deaths in the U.S. for 2020 (not counting December)

U.S. on track for deadliest yeara reply to: PurpleFox

Probably caused by a lack of exercise and over indulgence...

originally posted by: putnam6
Less than 1% of America’s population lives in long-term care facilities, but as of December 17, 2020, this tiny fraction of the country accounts for 38% of US COVID-19 deaths.

covidtracking.com...


Connecticut 65% of their COVID deaths are from LTC FACILITIES, yet we are supposed to believe that sans COVID none of these at risk ant elderly persons wouldn't have passed away from something else in 2020. Hell it's already been shown only 6-7% of the deaths are strictly from COVID and not from some underlying condition or factor.

Come man, this is malarkey; think of all the families that are missing loved ones at the dinner table ... well I guess since they were sent to live in long-term care facilities they really weren't at the dinner table before they died ... but you get the idea.

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: tamusan


If you know how to search and read, it has. There were 400,000 excess deaths in the U.S. for 2020 (not counting December)

U.S. on track for deadliest yeara reply to: PurpleFox

Probably caused by a lack of exercise and over indulgence...

Your empathy and all round humanity overwhelms me.

Probably

Overdose deaths far outpace COVID-19 deaths in San Francisco


apnews.com


Overdose Deaths Accelerating During COVID-19

37 of the 38 U.S. jurisdictions with available synthetic opioid data reported increases in synthetic opioid-involved overdose deaths.

18 of these jurisdictions reported increases greater than 50 percent.

10 western states reported over a 98 percent increase in synthetic opioid-involved deaths.

Overdose deaths involving coc aine also increased by 26.5 percent

CCP virus excess deaths rising ...or drug OD epidemic ?

a reply to: jrod
Dear Mr jrod, I'm useless at math so work this out.
If the figure of deaths from Covid is 1 per 1000 then would the percentage of vunerability of dying from Covid be .0001%? If that is correct, where do they get the figure of 6% vulnerability?

a reply to: Kenzo

So you are calling all these poor dead people drug addicts? That's nice.

I give up on you people.

I thought "deny ignorance" was the motto of this site. Apparently, not anymore.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: jrod
Dear Mr jrod, I'm useless at math so work this out.
If the figure of deaths from Covid is 1 per 1000 then would the percentage of vunerability of dying from Covid be .0001%? If that is correct, where do they get the figure of 6% vulnerability?

The 1000 is total population not cases.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: tamusan


If you know how to search and read, it has. There were 400,000 excess deaths in the U.S. for 2020 (not counting December)

U.S. on track for deadliest yeara reply to: PurpleFox

Probably caused by a lack of exercise and over indulgence...

Your empathy and all round humanity overwhelms me.

Probably

Well maybe I'm desensitized by the constant reports of how many thousands of people have died every year for the last forever.

A few hundred thousand Iraqis here, a few million Chinese there.

The world is at war and you don't even realise it.

originally posted by: putnam6
Less than 1% of America’s population lives in long-term care facilities, but as of December 17, 2020, this tiny fraction of the country accounts for 38% of US COVID-19 deaths.

covidtracking.com...


Connecticut 65% of their COVID deaths are from LTC FACILITIES, yet we are supposed to believe that sans COVID none of these at risk ant elderly persons wouldn't have passed away from something else in 2020. Hell it's already been shown only 6-7% of the deaths are strictly from COVID and not from some underlying condition or factor.

Shhh... don't point this out.

Media has to scare people into thinking healthy 30 and 40 year olds are out jogging on Monday, catch Covid and dead by Friday. We have to close down our schools!!!