COVID has killed 1 out of 1000 in the US

a reply to: Kenzo

Wow a chart with disinformation.....but it strokes your confirmation bias so why bother fact checking it.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Breakthestreak

I just got over the virus.

I can tell you it is real and something you do not want to catch.

I guarantee if you had a moderate case of COVID, your outlook would change.

How did you catch it? Was it from not wearing a mask?

Also did you have a confirmed test or did you just assume that you had it?

Bumping this up because looks like this question was overlooked - didn't see it answered by OP in the 4 pages. Eager to hear the answer.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
Why hasn't the total deaths in the US changed in comparison to 2019?

Asking for 320M+ friends.

a reply to: dug88

I aced Calculus in high school.

I wrote, COVID is on pace to be the leading cause of death for December, with several days exceeding 3000 deaths. If this trend continues, the number of deaths for the month of December from COVID will exceed the monthly deaths from heart disease, making it the leading cause of death for the month of December.

You took a quote out of context, either your reading comprehension sucks, or you intentionally tried to build a strawman argument.

Either way, you were wrong.

originally posted by: SilverRocket
Bumping this up because looks like this question was overlooked - didn't see it answered by OP in the 4 pages. Eager to hear the answer.

originally posted by: PurpleFox
Why hasn't the total deaths in the US changed in comparison to 2019?

Asking for 320M+ friends.

Total deaths have increased.

This has been pointed out in several posts.

a reply to: SilverRocket

I spelled this out in the OP.

Please put your biased aside and check the link provided in the OP. It seems like you have blindly accepted a figure from another poster.

I will quote it again for you so it does not get lost to thread drift and topic dilution.

The US is on track to record its deadliest year in history, largely due to the pandemic, as public health experts say overall life expectancy for 2020 could drop by as much as three years.

Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months, but preliminary numbers suggest the country will see more than 3.2 million deaths this year. That would be the first time annual deaths have cracked 3 million and would make 2020 the deadliest year on record

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: tamusan


If you know how to search and read, it has. There were 400,000 excess deaths in the U.S. for 2020 (not counting December)

U.S. on track for deadliest yeara reply to: PurpleFox

This might have added to it too.

But last week the CDC reported more than 81,000 drug overdose deaths in the 12 months ending in May, making it the highest number ever recorded in a one-year period.

Weird how total deaths havent changed from last year....NOT A CONSERVATIVE FACT....SEE recent John Hopkins study.... all of the sudden NO deaths from the regular flu, Pneumonia or respiratory diseases??? where did they go?..... We heard all the NON VIABLE excuses.

excuse # 1. "well it make sense that the other diseases would go down because people are wearing masks"........UM... mental gymnastic alert here.... if the mask wearing is working on ALL the other VIRUSES why not covid? OH, if masks don't work on COVID... why are we wearing them again? It appears the media has said that COVID IS EXPLODING? I'm confused with this mental gymnastic circular reasoning??

Excuse #2-- " the explosions in COVID DEATHS are from the NON mask wearers"....brain dead alert here.... if the masks are working why are the mask wearers getting sick from the NON mask wearers... WHY IS THE MASK WORKING ON ALL THE OTHER VIRUSES? and frankly........EVERYONE IS WEARING A MASK .. this just doesn't even fit basic observations. We should at least see a REDUCTION in transmissions as a HUGE part of the population wear the masks in the car.....BY THEMSELVES.( see Bernie Bro sticker on bumper)!

Excuse # 3- " this thing is airborne and thus ravaging the population... Nothing has changed in the Universe in regards to the transmission of Viruses. AGAIN SEE studies and the almost ELMINATION of other commonly deathly viruses . you cant have it one way and not the other... Like the mysterious math on the Biden votes!


THE MATH STINKS FOLKS... Masks are actually potentially dangerous( look it up)... see people driving breathing in their own bacteria and limiting oxygen alone IN THEIR CARS ( but you cant get it from touching FILTHY gas pumps?)...see people EXCERCISING vigorously with masks on?? TAKE A TRIP TO ANY VIROLOGY LAB AND SEE IF THEY ARE USING MASKS TO STOP FROM CONTRACTING THESE VIRUSES...... IT'S LAUGHABLE. STOP WATCHING DOOM PORN ON CNN/MSNBC/ABC ETC

UNFORTUNATELY....we will never get the REAL info on how to combat this virus or how or whom to protect the most. this sucks!



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originally posted by: jrod
This figure was crossed today and will continue to go up. COVID will finish the year as the 3rd leading cause of death. Keep in mind, this figure is deaths per total population, not just those infected.

With the vaccine in limited supply and even more limited by it's roll out due to bureaucracy, greed and denialism; we will still have a few more grim months before the vaccination efforts start to show improvement.

The current surge of deaths will likely result with COVID becoming the leading cause of death in December. Currently heat disease is the leading cause of death, claiming about 2300 lives a day in the US. So far this month, we have seen multiple days in excess of 3,000 deaths a day from COVID. Also life expectancy will drop by as much as 3 years as a result of the pandemic.

While hope is around the corner, this is a grim way to end of the year. With news of a vaccine, many may not take the same precautions to prevent transmission, this along with the season may result in even higher COVID rates before the majority can get the vaccine.

www.worldometers.info...

US poised for deadliest year ever as pandemic cuts life expectancy, experts say

edit on 23-12-2020 by jrod because: US Population: ~331 million, US COVID death: 331, 208 (and rising, figure as of time of OP)

a reply to: Muninn
You want me to show proof of my positive COVID test?

I tested positive, got contacted by the health department, told to quarantine for 10 days at the end of that time, I was contacted again after the 10 days were you to reassess and released from quarantine and got a letter saying I was released so I could go back to work.

Even if I took the time to upload my test results, you would probably say it's fake or taken from somewhere else.

I have nothing to prove to you, and could care less if you believe me. Nothing I can write will change your mind, it is already made up, that I can tell.

I know from personal experience that the virus is no joke and I was lucky enough to not develop pneumonia from it and it still took a toll on my body.

This virus can put someone as healthy as me, down and essentially bed ridden for a week. That is pretty serious and not something anyone should mess around with. It is not an ordinary bug and I still have effects two and a half weeks later.

originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: Muninn


This virus can put someone as healthy as me, down and essentially bed ridden for a week. That is pretty serious and not something anyone should mess around with. It is not an ordinary bug and I still have effects two and a half weeks later.

The flu can do the same yet we don't freak out and demand people wear masks and stay indoors, in my opinion I think wearing the masks and staying indoors makes our immune system weaker.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: bastion

Are you aware that the two illnesses have virtually identical symptoms? Do you know that the first thought in anyone's mind when someone shows up seriously ill is "COVID" so they test for it? Are you aware that the COVID test is so hypersensitive that it turns up false positive, so it can be masking the flu?

At least so far, there is virtually no flu at all in the US this year. Practically unheard of.

My aunt went into the hospital with severe flu symptoms, and their immediate thought was COVID. She didn't have any respiratory symptoms, not loss of senses, etc., just severe flu-like symptoms.

It's impossible to detect flu with a covid test or covid with a flu test; they're two completely different classes.

The reason the prevlelance of influenza has been so much lower in the southern and northern hemishphere is due to lockdown/unprescedented controls on vectors of transmission. I'm not claimin lockdowns are warranted for dealing with flu; just it's obvious the decrease in flu cases would be unheard of given the never before seen restrictions.

Flu cases are that much lower than covid because flu is seasonal and the vectors were closed down in both the southern and northern hemisphere; covid restrictions were put in place after the horse had bolted so a huge lag was created between exponential spread of the virus vs a negative linear regression.

a reply to: daboxfan

It takes months to assemble all the data for deaths. We will not have an accurate number of deaths for 2020 until next summer, maybe later.

The statistics for 2019 deaths just recently got released.

We do have good estimates from what the final number will be, that figure is around 3.2 million.

2019: 2.85 million total deaths
2020: 3.2 million deaths estimated.

Is 3.2 million greater than 2 85 million?

Furthermore, this is largest % increase since 1918.

And here is the another undeniable figure, life expectancy is expected to drop 3 years as a result of COVID.

a reply to: jrod

Puddles getting deeper and more Cleese by the minute. Deny ignorance is right.

This might have added to it too.


But last week the CDC reported more than 81,000 drug overdose deaths in the 12 months ending in May, making it the highest number ever recorded in a one-year period.

a reply to: HalWesten

I never said that I thought the excess deaths are all from covid. I read recently that San Francisco had twice as many deaths in one day from drugs than they did from covid. People are also dying because they are not getting healthcare for their non-covid health problems. And suicides are up. I personally know more people who died this year from suicide than covid.

a reply to: jrod


Did you also happen to notice that in overall people tend to die more in USA than in previous years , even without covid ?

From 1990 to 2020


2.25 million in 1990

2.96 million in 2020

Relative Change +32%

Difference from 1990 to 2020 = 715184

715184 divide to 30 is about 23 839 .


It was 2.49m deaths 10 years ago...and rising .

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