Boris Johnson announcing U Turn on Xmas restrictions shortly

a reply to: KingDoey

The new strain they talk about , is not a new ....they identified it back in September.


Sheeesh....is there any limit how much they lie ?


Scientists, MPs Ask ‘Where Is Evidence Of 70% More Contagious Mutant COVID?’ [Video]

originally posted by: Xabi87

originally posted by: EvilAxis

originally posted by: Xabi87
Why do you care so much? It's my opinion, # knows what the exact details are... would not be on ATS now would i?

You're not on ATS to discuss your opinion? OK, perhaps I shouldn't care.

Sure i am, however am not here to participate in some bollocks online court case to prove my opinion to some randomer who does not share it.

By all means, disagree but i ain't here to prove # to anyone. I ain't bothered what others choose to believe, it's very strange that you are.

Strange? What other reason is there to be here?

I invited you to flesh out your theory a bit. I didn' t ask for proof of anything. You interpret that as a police interview?

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: KingDoey

Sheeesh....is there any limit how much they lie ?

How much who lie? If you mean the tabloid press - no, there isn't much limit.

But there's no secret in mainstream media about the new strain having been detected in the UK in September, nor about the doubts over its infectiousness:

That 70% number appeared in a presentation by Dr Erik Volz, from Imperial College London, on Friday.

During the talk he said: "It is really too early to tell… but from what we see so far it is growing very quickly, it is growing faster than [a previous variant] ever grew, but it is important to keep an eye on this."

There is no "nailed on" figure for how much more infectious the variant may be. Scientists, whose work is not yet public, have told me figures both much higher and much lower than 70%.

But there remain questions about whether it is any more infectious at all.

"The amount of evidence in the public domain is woefully inadequate to draw strong or firm opinions on whether the virus has truly increased transmission," said Prof Jonathan Ball, a virologist at the University of Nottingham.

BBC


Johnson is understandably panicked as his mishandling of the pandemic threatens to overwhelm our hospitals this winter. The 70% guess is to back up his latest desperate U-turn. Hopefully it's an overestimate.

originally posted by: EvilAxis

originally posted by: Xabi87

originally posted by: EvilAxis

originally posted by: Xabi87
Why do you care so much? It's my opinion, # knows what the exact details are... would not be on ATS now would i?

You're not on ATS to discuss your opinion? OK, perhaps I shouldn't care.

Sure i am, however am not here to participate in some bollocks online court case to prove my opinion to some randomer who does not share it.

By all means, disagree but i ain't here to prove # to anyone. I ain't bothered what others choose to believe, it's very strange that you are.

Strange? What other reason is there to be here?

I invited you to flesh out your theory a bit. I didn' t ask for proof of anything. You interpret that as a police interview?

You asked me 6 different questions in a single post fella, pretty weird...

originally posted by: Freeborn

We are supposed to believe that an elite group of people who literally have every luxury one can imagine, have so much wealth, power and influence that they can dictate to governments and control world politics and events wish to inflict some sort of economic Year Zero on the world so that they can gain control of a world they already allegedly control.

Why?

You know in god games when you've accomplished everything and are bored, you screw things up and play around just to see what happens?

Why?
For fun.

I'm off to Nottingham this morning for an escort rendezvous. I think Notts is tier 3 and I'm in tier 2? I care not.

"O, ye seekers of perpetual government ronagramming, how many vain chimeras have you pursued? Go and take your place with the alchemists!"

I got mail from finchley clinic since i been their customer, well this one from today had this story...about some England & Wales: registered deaths.


Are We Really In The Middle of A Terrible Pandemic?

(Note statistics for 2020 is only until October).

2006 = 470,326
2007 = 470,721
2008 = 475,763
2009 = 459,241
2010 = 461,017
2011 = 452,862
2012 = 466,779
2013 = 473,552
2014 = 468,875
2015 = 495,309
2016 = 490,791
2017 = 498,882
2018 = 505,859
2019 = 496,370
2020 = 469,182 (November and December not yet available)


What do our UK members say about this ?



It isn't really looking like black death to me ( covid-19 )

originally posted by: Kenzo
I got mail from finchley clinic since i been their customer, well this one from today had this story...about some England & Wales: registered deaths.


Are We Really In The Middle of A Terrible Pandemic?

(Note statistics for 2020 is only until October).

2006 = 470,326
2007 = 470,721
2008 = 475,763
2009 = 459,241
2010 = 461,017
2011 = 452,862
2012 = 466,779
2013 = 473,552
2014 = 468,875
2015 = 495,309
2016 = 490,791
2017 = 498,882
2018 = 505,859
2019 = 496,370
2020 = 469,182 (November and December not yet available)


What do our UK members say about this ?



It it isn't really looking like black death to me ( covid-19 )

469,182 deaths from the Communist Contagion, obviously.

All other causes of death have been eliminated!

Why, even if a crazed axeman was to break into my house and hack me to death, I would not have died from that vicious mauling, but from the Peking Pestilence! That is how it would be recorded, and as we all know government records are infallible and 100% truthful.

a reply to: Ohanka


Oh the CCP Pestilence has so many layers many cant even imagine it`s like Swiss Knife...multi functional tool of death.

originally posted by: Kenzo
I got mail from finchley clinic since i been their customer, well this one from today had this story...about some England & Wales: registered deaths.


Are We Really In The Middle of A Terrible Pandemic?

(Note statistics for 2020 is only until October).

2006 = 470,326
2007 = 470,721
2008 = 475,763
2009 = 459,241
2010 = 461,017
2011 = 452,862
2012 = 466,779
2013 = 473,552
2014 = 468,875
2015 = 495,309
2016 = 490,791
2017 = 498,882
2018 = 505,859
2019 = 496,370
2020 = 469,182 (November and December not yet available)


What do our UK members say about this ?



It isn't really looking like black death to me ( covid-19 )

The current total up to 11th Dec is 579,514. That's about 13% higher than the YTD average of the last 5 years.

a reply to: ScepticScot


Death by Lockdown

(1) In the UK, cancer authorities have been warning that the lockdowns will wind up leading to as many or more avoidable cancer deaths than COVID deaths there — as many as 60,000, according to one estimate.

The UK’s Sunday Express – not exactly some obscure dispatch – reports that increased cancer fatalities will result from the redeployment of health resources caused by COVID hysteria. The BBC says the same. In fact, says Richard Sullivan, a professor of cancer and global health at King’s College London and director of its Institute of Cancer Policy:

The number of deaths due to the disruption of cancer services is likely to outweigh the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself. The cessation and delay of cancer care will cause considerable avoidable suffering. Cancer screening services have stopped, which means we will miss our chance to catch many cancers when they are treatable and curable, such as cervical, bowel and breast. When we do restart normal service delivery after the lockdown is lifted, the backlog of cases will be a huge challenge to the healthcare system.

According to the Daily Mail on October 6:

Vital operations were cancelled and patients missed out on potentially life-saving therapy in the spring because tackling Covid-19 became the sole focus of the health service, instead of cancer and other cruel diseases.

Almost 2.5 million people missed out on cancer screening, referrals or treatment at the height of lockdown, even though the NHS was never overwhelmed — despite fears it would be crippled by the pandemic.


Experts now fear the number of people dying as a result of delays triggered by the treatment of coronavirus patients could even end up being responsible for as many deaths as the pandemic itself. Read the original article at TomWoods.com. tomwoods.com...

I am sure the spineless politicians clap theirs hands as the collateral body count rise , it`s only good for them since the pandemic look`s more frightening....

a reply to: Kenzo

I'm pretty sure they are not clapping their hands. Whilst I have a fairly poor opinion of politicians generally they are human beings, mostly, why is this good for them?

They benefit from a strong economy with lots of taxes and more chance of being reelected etc.

This is all getting a bit hysterical.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: ScepticScot


Death by Lockdown

(1) In the UK, cancer authorities have been warning that the lockdowns will wind up leading to as many or more avoidable cancer deaths than COVID deaths there — as many as 60,000, according to one estimate.

The UK’s Sunday Express – not exactly some obscure dispatch – reports that increased cancer fatalities will result from the redeployment of health resources caused by COVID hysteria. The BBC says the same. In fact, says Richard Sullivan, a professor of cancer and global health at King’s College London and director of its Institute of Cancer Policy:

The number of deaths due to the disruption of cancer services is likely to outweigh the number of deaths from the coronavirus itself. The cessation and delay of cancer care will cause considerable avoidable suffering. Cancer screening services have stopped, which means we will miss our chance to catch many cancers when they are treatable and curable, such as cervical, bowel and breast. When we do restart normal service delivery after the lockdown is lifted, the backlog of cases will be a huge challenge to the healthcare system.

According to the Daily Mail on October 6:

Vital operations were cancelled and patients missed out on potentially life-saving therapy in the spring because tackling Covid-19 became the sole focus of the health service, instead of cancer and other cruel diseases.

Almost 2.5 million people missed out on cancer screening, referrals or treatment at the height of lockdown, even though the NHS was never overwhelmed — despite fears it would be crippled by the pandemic.


Experts now fear the number of people dying as a result of delays triggered by the treatment of coronavirus patients could even end up being responsible for as many deaths as the pandemic itself. Read the original article at TomWoods.com. tomwoods.com...

I am sure the spineless politicians clap theirs hands as the collateral body count rise , it`s only good for them since the pandemic look`s more frightening....

Deaths missed cancer screening will take place over a numer of years not current year statistics.

The government absolutely should take more action catch up on missed appointments/screenings etc, but that does not mean covid is any less deadly.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Kenzo

I'm pretty sure they are not clapping their hands. Whilst I have a fairly poor opinion of politicians generally they are human beings, mostly, why is this good for them?

They benefit from a strong economy with lots of taxes and more chance of being reelected etc.

This is all getting a bit hysterical.

Getting?

I think you might be being a tad generous.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Benefit from a strong economy??


You have really lost it...they are destroying the economy.

a reply to: ScepticScot

That's me. Generous to a fault. I'd say what I really thought in stronger language but I'd get my wrists slapped.