Deep State war has begun

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Add to that the idiocy of keeping the smoking servers right there, so they can be picked up, for a week and a half.

Didn't they even think of wiping them "like with a cloth or something".

a reply to: daskakik

They should have hacked them, like with an axe.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus
Obviously there where white hats down on the server farm, placed there by god and JFK Jr., aka Vincent Fusca, who kept that from happening.

IF Americans killed Americans than that was the first salvo of the new civil war.

Trump is like Julius Caesar at the Rubicon right now, he can disband his legions ready to fight for him, or he can bring the 13th with him and they will run because they know they can't win this one.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CIAGypsy

This is getting to be more like Alice in Wonderland every day , pure fantasy.

In perspective. Sydney Powell has confirmed a server has been seized in Germany. Understand the difference between objective truth and delusion.

a reply to: chr0naut

epartment? Why would the CIA have a server farm, supposedly containing data on the citizens of the USA, housed in Frankfurt? Surely it is cheaper and easier to have a covert server farm in the USA if the info is located there.

For the same reason NSA has the Menwith Hill surveillance complex. www.caab.org.uk...

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus
Now now. We all know spooks don't exist and black ops are a silly conspiracy theory myth.

People don't even know the plans the Democrats have in store.

Especially going after Republican voters and crippling them financially...

originally posted by: Bloodworth
People don't even know the plans the Democrats have in store.

Especially going after Republican voters and crippling them financially...

But you do? How'd you get the secret info?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
now you are just being mean.

Maybe? But I'm tired of being called a shill, a commie and whatever else people can think of because they cannot accept reality. This story is bull, anyone with an iota of common sense knows it's bull. You don't raid another sovereign country, particularly an ally, and it stays quiet. Forget the fact that they allegedly lost 6 men. It's so far out in the realm of the absurd it's laughable.

We don’t always see eye-to-eye, Augustus, but you’re spot on here.

As a person who is not a Biden supporter, I still expected him to win. And he didn’t.

Could there have been some shenanigans along the way that led to Biden’s win? Are there some points that raise an eyebrow around the election data? Sure. But this isn’t the first time... and won’t be the last... that those points are true.

In my view, Trump supporters need to re-brand as Republicans and find a candidate who is NOT Trump and start rallying behind that person now. They have 4 years to build that person up, fix their image with moderate voters and set themselves up to capitalize on what will likely be a dumpster fire of an administration with Biden.

But nope - like you, I’ll be called a Commie and not on board - even though it makes perfect sense why Trump would lose and if they start thinking forward they absolutely can start to turn the tide at mid-terms even further.

Instead, the right sounds no different than the left did in 2016. And it will take some seriously incontrovertible evidence to have me see this differently but, then again, I wanted Trump to win on the basis of policy but fully expected him to lose - so my world isn’t turned upside down like it is for some.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
Instead, the right sounds no different than the left did in 2016.

The whataboutism sky screaming has already started and it's going to get worse. Coupled with 'dey terk er election' you have a formula that will lead to plenty of grasping at straws to help confirm their bias.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: chr0naut

epartment? Why would the CIA have a server farm, supposedly containing data on the citizens of the USA, housed in Frankfurt? Surely it is cheaper and easier to have a covert server farm in the USA if the info is located there.

For the same reason NSA has the Menwith Hill surveillance complex. www.caab.org.uk...

to bypass US law, obviously lol

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
Instead, the right sounds no different than the left did in 2016.

The whataboutism sky screaming has already started and it's going to get worse. Coupled with 'dey terk er election' you have a formula that will lead to plenty of grasping at straws to help confirm their bias.

Yep - and it’s reflected in Gallup data:

news.gallup.com...

These findings are from a postelection survey conducted Nov. 5-19, a period during which Trump's legal team was challenging the results in a number of states. The increase in Biden's favorability between Gallup's final preelection and first postelection readings is driven by independents and Republicans, whose positive ratings of Biden grew from 48% to 55% and 6% to 12%, respectively. Democrats' nearly unanimous positive ratings remained constant.

Trump's slightly lower postelection favorable rating is owed more to Republicans than independents or Democrats. Republicans' rating of the president fell six points to 89%, while it was essentially unchanged among independents and static among Democrats.

People can accept and even admire a graceful loser. People don’t typically like a sore loser. And the Gallup poll reflects that.

a reply to: EnigmaChaser

I said in another thread, if the Republicans lose the Senate it is 100% Trump's fault because he acted this way. The election proved that people disliked Trump only slightly more than they disliked the Democrat Party.

originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
IF Americans killed Americans than that was the first salvo of the new civil war.

Trump is like Julius Caesar at the Rubicon right now, he can disband his legions ready to fight for him, or he can bring the 13th with him and they will run because they know they can't win this one.

Negative, Obama droned American citizens with out trial.

a reply to: purplemer

Sydney Powell has confirmed a server has been seized in Germany.

I guess if Sydney Powell has confirmed it then there's a link to that confirmation ?

Understand the difference between objective truth and delusion.

Indeed.

a reply to: gortex

I guess if Sydney Powell has confirmed it then there's a link to that confirmation ?

Soz Not really no. I watched it in an interview with her last week. I recollect not which one it was. I have watched muchos.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: chr0naut

epartment? Why would the CIA have a server farm, supposedly containing data on the citizens of the USA, housed in Frankfurt? Surely it is cheaper and easier to have a covert server farm in the USA if the info is located there.

For the same reason NSA has the Menwith Hill surveillance complex. www.caab.org.uk...

Germany isn't part of UKUSA or 'Five Eyes'.

Menwith Hill captures European strategic SIGINT. I doubt that it processes data from the USA.

a reply to: Lumenari

Credibility of sources not important, then?

a reply to: purplemer

No matter , I've found it.

There was one comment Powell made, though, that hasn’t received much attention, an exchange that makes clear just how little credence should be given to her claims. It came during a brief question-and-answer period at the end of the news conference.

“Speaking of our vote being held and processed, tabulated overseas,” someone in attendance said, “there is reports that there was a piece of hardware, possibly a server picked up in Germany. Is that true, and is it related to this?”

“That is true,” Powell replied. “It is somehow related to this, but I do not know whether good guys got it or bad guys got it.”

“So we don’t know who picked it up?” the questioner asked.

Powell shook her head no.

If you hadn’t heard of this reporting about a seized server, that is apparently because you haven’t been watching One America News.

Now, you might have expected OAN to include Scytl’s expansive denial of these weird claims or even to, you know, not air extremely dubious claims based on allegations made in a couple of tweets or by a member of Congress with a somewhat iffy record. If that is what you expected of OAN, you should scroll back up and read the paragraph beginning “Or perhaps you’ve never heard of it.”

It was this, it seems, which Powell endorsed during the Trump campaign’s news conference Thursday. Her assessment of it — that she didn’t know “whether good guys got it or bad guys got it” — doesn’t make any sense in context, but that didn’t stop her from giving her stamp of approval. Yes, she said, the Scytl thing and her other allegations were “somehow related” to her grand conspiracy of Venezuela and communists and Soros and algorithms. It all fit together, somehow, if we could just figure out whether it was the good guys or the bad guys who did the thing which was done according to that tweet.

And that’s how credibly you should take the campaign’s news conference.
www.washingtonpost.com...

The difference between objective truth and delusion ?