Undeniable proof masks don't do jack

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Hard to be scared of something when you're in a demographic with more than a 99% survival rate. I'm at least 20 years out from the demographic where it gets down lower than that.

a reply to: KansasGirl

OMG AGAIN WITH THIS. I've lived for 50 years, I haven't had anyone I know die from it. I haven't had 30 year old friends have to be revived at the hospital.

Stop with this utter nonsense already.

a reply to: mzinga

No one is saying it can't be serious, but the odds on a personal level that it will be for an otherwise healthy person are also very, very low.

The flu could also kill me this year too.

a reply to: midnightstar

Listen I can’t stand reading your comments. I had a better mastery of the English language when I was 6. Can you please just read along or find a new website . Getting informed by a 5 year old isn’t good for this website

a reply to: Annee

I feel so sad for your family that they get their world view from you . The most brainwashed narrow minded individual since silly ol me

a reply to: Thenail

Pretty sure ats has rules against things like

'LOLOL'

and using internet speak like

'teh'

...

In your posts.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: pexx421

It’s funny, but In all the pandemic style movies in the past, none of them predicted that the overwhelming response of the us would be denial.

Such a situation could only occur when people aren't really in fear for their life, and that could only occur when the symptoms pose very little threat to the majority of people. When a truly severe virus hits us no one will be denying it and we wont be arguing about whether it's less or more severe than a common cold.

Or somewhere like the us where disinformation is king. Sure, you may not die from it. And you probably wouldn’t notice the permanent lung or brain damage. I expect that if a volcano was erupting 10 miles from fox viewers towns, they’d be walking around with raincoats and umbrellas because they’d all be convinced nothing more than a storm was coming. Or they would be blaming the democrats for the volcano. The dems would all be trying to cash in on overpriced raincoats and umbrellas, I’m sure.

a reply to: TNMockingbird

The folks that she had escorted were tested and all were negative.

The tests themselves are meaningless.
The man who created the test said so and it is pretty clear it is a toss chance. The numbers were determined my some pretty great drs to show tests as 95% wrong.


bpa-pathology.com...

But looking closely at the facts, the conclusion is that these PCR tests are meaningless as a diagnostic tool to determine an alleged infection by a supposedly new virus called SARS-CoV-2.

There are multiple ways we can look at this data because I for one can agree that the charts provided absolutely destroy the narrative that masks are working.

This is from what I am seeing. I would say 90% of people I see out in the public when running errands are wearing a mask.
So where are the spikes coming from? Easy, people are still gathering in larger groups, especially more so in rural areas. I can only use my family as an example but they simply do not care back in my town where I grew up.
Also, both my kids go to school with 400+ students in their class and they have to wear masks all day, everyday. If masks did not work we would have seen a much larger spread in schools imo.

Second, I think we all can at least think that this is possible. Inflate the rate for the next 2-3 months. Biden takes over, implements his plan, bam, boom, Covid numbers drop. Biden looks good while Trump looks terrible.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: one4all

No. I'm not going to wear a mask, suck in some of the sickness coming out of another mask and lingering in the air, and then let it circulate from my lungs to my mask to my lungs again. I'll continue wearing no mask and breathing free air that doesn't get humid and stuck inside a mask.

I get the thought process you're presenting, but your method only makes things worse and makes more people sick.

How about pulling the mask down with a finger in a restaurant taking a bite and pulling it up, ha! Over and over food on the mask germs on the fingers that touch the table and glass and all...

OH but I forgot I think the Governor is saying if the restaurant is expensive enough like maybe the French Laundry restaurant we don't need the restrictions at all!

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

. If you had told me a year ago this is where the world would be now I'd never believe you in a million years

This has been my feelings exactly!

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: midnightstar

We've had a mask mandate where I am at since early this summer, and we still had a spike early this month ... enough that they've added extra measure within the last few days and a curfew.

Everywhere I go, I see ugly face diapers. No one is going without.

So why the spike?

there are spikes when they want spikes which is when they start using the fake tests more.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Are you kidding me? Where were you decades ago telling every doctor, nurse, paramedic, painter, construction worker, carpenter, black smith, food worker, etc to not wear a mask? Huh?!!!! Where were you?? Since masks don't work? What are you going to do with all the mask wearing jobs?!

originally posted by: mzinga
a reply to: ketsuko

And there are lots and lots of studies that show masks can prevent transmission. Seriously your efforts to link correlation to causation are erroneous and tiring. At least you wear your mask even though you don't believe in it.. As I've stated multiple times it is BS arguments like that that lead to a state like mine to completely disregard any recommendations.

The lawmakers, the leaders tell us the same but if it were true why are the unafraid to be around friends and loved ones without any protective measures at all?
Do as I say not as I do, it is pretty clear they are laughing at those who do comply!

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Are you kidding me? Where were you decades ago telling every doctor, nurse, paramedic, painter, construction worker, carpenter, black smith, food worker, etc to not wear a mask? Huh?!!!! Where were you?? Since masks don't work? What are you going to do with all the mask wearing jobs?!

I am pretty sure you wrote this before you actually thought?

Wood dust
Paint and thinners
metal dust

originally posted by: Thenail
a reply to: midnightstar

Listen I can’t stand reading your comments. I had a better mastery of the English language when I was 6. Can you please just read along or find a new website . Getting informed by a 5 year old isn’t good for this website

a reply to: Thenail

Thanks for saying what everyone else is thinking.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I saw that... Man, I'm so sick of these motherlovers dictating every move we make while doing anything they want to do. I haven't seen it in my city yet, but I'm wondering just how long it'll be before people finally stand up.

1776

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I saw that... Man, I'm so sick of these motherlovers dictating every move we make while doing anything they want to do. I haven't seen it in my city yet, but I'm wondering just how long it'll be before people finally stand up.

1776

Just can't get people to read the facts, if we can't rely on the tests and are can't there are NO NUMBERS!

And as Walter Lippmann, the two-time Pulitzer Prize winner and perhaps the most influential journalist of the 20th century said: “Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.”

So to start, it is very remarkable that Kary Mullis himself, the inventor of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) technology, did not think alike. His invention got him the Nobel prize in chemistry in 1993.

Unfortunately, Mullis passed away last year at the age of 74, but there is no doubt that the biochemist regarded the PCR as inappropriate to detect a viral infection.

The reason is that the intended use of the PCR was, and still is, to apply it as a manufacturing technique, being able to replicate DNA sequences millions and billions of times, and not as a diagnostic tool to detect viruses.

How declaring virus pandemics based on PCR tests can end in disaster was described by Gina Kolata in her 2007 New York Times article Faith in Quick Test Leads to Epidemic That Wasn’t.

bpa-pathology.com...

How fake epidemics have taken place in the past.

Many of the new molecular tests are quick but technically demanding, and each laboratory may do them in its own way. These tests, called “home brews,” are not commercially available, and there are no good estimates of their error rates. But their very sensitivity makes false positives likely, and when hundreds or thousands of people are tested, as occurred at Dartmouth, false positives can make it seem like there is an epidemic.

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

This is not undeniable proof of anything.

Another BS clickbait title.

The absolute state of some posters on here. Its awful. At least have the decency to open the thread, post your opinion and present your argument. Not this tripe of catchphrases, buzzwords.

If ATS wants to get serious about have quality content again threads like this need to be removed and the OP taught how to write sensible threads again.

Shame as the topic was an interesting one and the graphs are also a good topic to discuss, but its ruined with the over-the-top "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME" nature of the OP.