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Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

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posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 04:37 AM
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originally posted by: HUSARIA

originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: HUSARIA
What is odd to me is how angry and condescending people get about the flat earth topic. It’s ok to have a different opinion than someone else.


Theres a big difference between opinion and facts...

Flat earth has NO facts... and the "opinions" are just wrong

just blatant denial of the obvious due to a fanatical belief in the bible and a few vague claims



So there’s no chance that you could have been lied to about what you are living on?


No... lol

the evidence is quite abundant




posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 05:13 AM
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originally posted by: HUSARIA

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: HUSARIA
What is odd to me is how angry and condescending people get about the flat earth topic. It’s ok to have a different opinion than someone else.


Not when you cite proof and evidence the earth is spherical over and over again, and that proof is ignored and blatantly misrepresented.

Where threads claiming flat earth theory are “true” are placed in the ludicrous on lies forum.





How can photographers zoom in at 50-75 miles and see the bottoms of building on a clear day? If you go by the calculations of the globe, this would be a 1600 - 3700 feet below line of sight.


Got any examples?



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 05:26 AM
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originally posted by: HUSARIA
What is odd to me is how angry and condescending people get about the flat earth topic. It’s ok to have a different opinion than someone else.


It is absolutely fine to have opinions that are different, but facts are not opinions. Facts are either true or they aren't facts.

When someone denies the existence of those facts, denies having had those facts pointed out to them, ignores facts that are presented to them, insists that black is white and 2+2 = oranges over and over and over and over again, then yeah, one tends to get angry at them.

I'm more than happy to be polite, but not when it gets repeatedly thrown back in your face.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 06:28 AM
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a reply to: HUSARIA

Will this help? Farther down is a cited source concerning oil rigs at sea. Or this link.

Flat Earth and Refraction with Oil Platforms Hillhouse and Habitat

www.metabunk.org...

Hope that helps.


It all started about 2000 years ago.



He realized that if he knew the distance from Alexandria to Syene, he could easily calculate the circumference of Earth. But in those days it was extremely difficult to determine distance with any accuracy. Some distances between cities were measured by the time it took a camel caravan to travel from one city to the other. But camels have a tendency to wander and to walk at varying speeds. So Eratosthenes hired bematists, professional surveyors trained to walk with equal length steps. They found that Syene lies about 5000 stadia from Alexandria.

Eratosthenes then used this to calculate the circumference of the Earth to be about 250,000 stadia. Modern scholars disagree about the length of the stadium used by Eratosthenes. Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes’ calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

www.aps.org...







Flat Earth and Refraction with Oil Platforms Hillhouse and Habitat

www.metabunk.org...

Oil rigs off the coast of Santa Barbara give us some great opportunities to view the curve of the Earth. But they also provide great opportunities for refraction to confuse the issue. How do we know it's not just refraction on a flat earth that just LOOKS round? I've added the oil-rigs to my refraction simulator, so people can experiment with what refraction is capable of doing. Also to demonstrate that you can't actually make a Flat Earth look round with refraction.


An oversimplification.
But it is documented light refraction bends light so objects over the horizon can be seen.

But the oil rig at sea is a more accurate account because of water finding it’s level, and the surface of the sea literally maintain sea level, vs the chaos of land above sea level. And it’s changed is elevation.

And the oil rig account holds true to the cited experiments below.

Spherical earth wins again through experimentation. No room for your “illusions”....



The Rainy Lake Experiment
Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 00:50 | Author: wabis | Topics: FlatEarth, Knowlegde, Science, Experiment






walter.bislins.ch...


Backs the flat earth experiment on




Behind the Curve' Ending: Flat Earthers Disprove Themselves With Own Experiments in Netflix Documentary

BY ANDREW WHALEN ON 2/25/19 AT 5:04 PM EST



www.newsweek.com...

Campanella devises an experiment involving three posts of the same height and a high-powered laser. The idea is to set up three measuring posts over a nearly 4 mile length of equal elevation. Once the laser is activated at the first post, its height can be measured at the other two. If the laser is at eight feet on the first post, then five feet at the second, then it indicates the measuring posts are set upon the Earth's curvature.

In his first attempt, Campanella's laser light spread out too much over the distance, making an accurate measurement impossible. But at the very end of Behind the Curve, Campanella comes up with a similar experiment, this time involving a light instead of a laser. With two holes cut into styrofoam sheets at the same height, Campanella hopes to demonstrate that a light shone through the first hole will appear on a camera behind the second hole, indicating that a light, set at the same height as the holes, travelled straight across the surface of the Flat Earth. But if the light needs to be raised to a different height than the holes, it would indicate a curvature, invalidating the Flat Earth.

Campanella watches when the light is activated at the same height as the holes, but the light can't be seen on the camera screen. "Lift up your light, way above your head," Campanella says. With the compensation made for the curvature of the Earth, the light immediately appears on the camera. "Interesting," Campanella says. "That's interesting." The documentary ends.




Now that there is proof of spherical earth, and the issue of oil rigs at sea address your concerns. Will you continue to still play nice?



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: HUSARIA

Will this help? Farther down is a cited source concerning oil rigs at sea. Or this link.

Flat Earth and Refraction with Oil Platforms Hillhouse and Habitat

www.metabunk.org...

Hope that helps.


It all started about 2000 years ago.



He realized that if he knew the distance from Alexandria to Syene, he could easily calculate the circumference of Earth. But in those days it was extremely difficult to determine distance with any accuracy. Some distances between cities were measured by the time it took a camel caravan to travel from one city to the other. But camels have a tendency to wander and to walk at varying speeds. So Eratosthenes hired bematists, professional surveyors trained to walk with equal length steps. They found that Syene lies about 5000 stadia from Alexandria.

Eratosthenes then used this to calculate the circumference of the Earth to be about 250,000 stadia. Modern scholars disagree about the length of the stadium used by Eratosthenes. Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes’ calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

www.aps.org...







Flat Earth and Refraction with Oil Platforms Hillhouse and Habitat

www.metabunk.org...

Oil rigs off the coast of Santa Barbara give us some great opportunities to view the curve of the Earth. But they also provide great opportunities for refraction to confuse the issue. How do we know it's not just refraction on a flat earth that just LOOKS round? I've added the oil-rigs to my refraction simulator, so people can experiment with what refraction is capable of doing. Also to demonstrate that you can't actually make a Flat Earth look round with refraction.


An oversimplification.
But it is documented light refraction bends light so objects over the horizon can be seen.

But the oil rig at sea is a more accurate account because of water finding it’s level, and the surface of the sea literally maintain sea level, vs the chaos of land above sea level. And it’s changed is elevation.

And the oil rig account holds true to the cited experiments below.

Spherical earth wins again through experimentation. No room for your “illusions”....



The Rainy Lake Experiment
Saturday, July 20, 2019 - 00:50 | Author: wabis | Topics: FlatEarth, Knowlegde, Science, Experiment






walter.bislins.ch...


Backs the flat earth experiment on




Behind the Curve' Ending: Flat Earthers Disprove Themselves With Own Experiments in Netflix Documentary

BY ANDREW WHALEN ON 2/25/19 AT 5:04 PM EST



www.newsweek.com...

Campanella devises an experiment involving three posts of the same height and a high-powered laser. The idea is to set up three measuring posts over a nearly 4 mile length of equal elevation. Once the laser is activated at the first post, its height can be measured at the other two. If the laser is at eight feet on the first post, then five feet at the second, then it indicates the measuring posts are set upon the Earth's curvature.

In his first attempt, Campanella's laser light spread out too much over the distance, making an accurate measurement impossible. But at the very end of Behind the Curve, Campanella comes up with a similar experiment, this time involving a light instead of a laser. With two holes cut into styrofoam sheets at the same height, Campanella hopes to demonstrate that a light shone through the first hole will appear on a camera behind the second hole, indicating that a light, set at the same height as the holes, travelled straight across the surface of the Flat Earth. But if the light needs to be raised to a different height than the holes, it would indicate a curvature, invalidating the Flat Earth.

Campanella watches when the light is activated at the same height as the holes, but the light can't be seen on the camera screen. "Lift up your light, way above your head," Campanella says. With the compensation made for the curvature of the Earth, the light immediately appears on the camera. "Interesting," Campanella says. "That's interesting." The documentary ends.




Now that there is proof of spherical earth, and the issue of oil rigs at sea address your concerns. Will you continue to still play nice?


Refraction is not what I’m seeing on these videos. Refraction causes massive distortion and sometimes inverted image. So no, that’s not proof of anything. But thanks for the attempt.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: HUSARIA

You


So no, that’s not proof of anything.


It is absolutely proof of a spherical earth. And you have provided no working evidence to counter documented evidence the earth is spherical.

By all means quote the cited works, where the cited works are false, and provide proof they don’t provide practical evidence the earth is spherical.

I have provided a frame work for actual debate. You have provided your unsubstantiated opinion, you have proven you don’t understand evidence, and provided no evidence there earth is something else than spherical.


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edit on 16-8-2021 by neutronflux because: Fixed



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: HUSARIA

They condescend because it's a brain washing tactic.

Break down sense of self: Break down their sense of self-esteem, literally attack them as individuals on the basis that they are wrong and that the group is right.

The entire perception of the world is built upon a false reality, and the people are part of that Matrix, they will fight to keep the false reality alive because it is their entire identity.

At the end of the day none of these people have ever gone to space. They have their graphs and numbers but will never have direct experience.


edit on 16-8-2021 by AncientHeru because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: HUSARIA

They condescend because it's a brain washing tactic.


Nope, it's a response to condescending and insulting approaches by people whose lack of understanding about a subject is inversely proportional to the expertise they claim.


Break down sense of self: Break down their sense of self-esteem, literally attack them as individuals on the basis that they are wrong and that the group is right.


What is being attacked is the falseness of the narrative they claim as correct. If you read turbonium's posts. they are littered with exactly the same kind of attacks you are ocmplaining about on the basis that he is right and everyone else is wrong.


The entire perception of the world is built upon a false reality, and the people are part of that Matrix, they will fight to keep the false reality alive because it is their entire identity.


I've seen nothing to convince me that my perception of reality is false or incorrect. I've seen plenty form you that indicate a certain double standard in your approach. For example...


At the end of the day none of these people have ever gone to space. They have their graphs and numbers but will never have direct experience.


You have not been to space. You are further hampered by the fact that you show no intention of considering graphs and numbers that support the accounts of those that have. Your lack of understanding and knowledge should not be taken to mean that other people don't have knowledge and understanding. If you want to convince me, or anyone else, that I am wrong. then present me with something that demonstrates that to me, not some mystic philosophy you read somewhere that tries to break down my self-esteem by telling me everything I believe in is wrong.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

When I say attacks, in the world at large, "flat earthers" are constantly attacked and ridiculed. It's the larger group that is "right" and the minoirty that is attacked for being wrong and not part of the group.

I consistently wish you all peace and blessings becuase i genuinely mean it.

I have not been to space, but like I have said, I have seen the firmament and I have been to the world above it. So there is no double standard there.

All you have to do is walk to know the earth is flat or stand to know we are stable and not spinning.

But... but... the books and the media tell me im spinning, so im spinning, my senses are deceiving me.

When i say flat i mean flat like the surface of a crystal or rock. If you took a microscope to the rock you would see there are many valleys and peaks microscopically.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: AncientHeru


originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: HUSARIA

They condescend because it's a brain washing tactic.

Break down sense of self: Break down their sense of self-esteem, literally attack them as individuals on the basis that they are wrong and that the group is right.

The entire perception of the world is built upon a false reality, and the people are part of that Matrix, they will fight to keep the false reality alive because it is their entire identity.

At the end of the day none of these people have ever gone to space. They have their graphs and numbers but will never have direct experience.




And yet, treating the earth as spherical is the most reliable, most economical, the quickest way to navigate and get across the oceans.

Was saving this for Turbo, but I can recycle it.

If you travel in the direction of the arrow out of South America, you travel towards Africa.



If you do the same exercise for a flat earth map, you end up going south and end up traveling parallel to Africa?



Remember, a flat earth map is supposed to be the map of the flat earth. It should literally transpose to a flat piece of paper with no errors.

If you do a similar exercise for the USA, and travel “east” out USA’s east coast, you can across the equator on the flat earth map? That’s f’d up and wrong.

Flat earth is the f’d up lie.


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edit on 16-8-2021 by neutronflux because: Fixed



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 12:33 PM
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Wernher von Braun was the public face of the American space program, as well as one of its chief architects.

This man was a nazi, who were the masters of deception. This is who you are trusting with your reality.

I put my trust in the saints, the sages and gurus.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

We dont know what a flat earth map looks like. But it probably looks closer to this

upload.wikimedia.org...
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posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: AncientHeru
Wernher von Braun was the public face of the American space program, as well as one of its chief architects.

This man was a nazi, who were the masters of deception. This is who you are trusting with your reality.

I put my trust in the saints, the sages and gurus.


Which has nothing to do with what is posted, or navigation on a spherical earth. Or the fact I own a telescope.

Here’s your list…

If you travel in the direction of the arrow out of South America, you travel towards Africa.



If you do the same exercise for a flat earth map, you end up going south and end up traveling parallel to Africa?



Remember, a flat earth map is supposed to be the map of the flat earth. It should literally transpose to a flat piece of paper with no errors.

If you do a similar exercise for the USA, and travel “east” out USA’s east coast, you can across the equator on the flat earth map? That’s f’d up and wrong.

Tidal waves

Rivers that periodically flow backwards from tidal waves

Tidal bore: “ Bores occur in relatively few locations worldwide, usually in areas with a large tidal range (typically more than 6 meters (20 ft) between high and low water) and where incoming tides are funneled into a shallow, narrowing river or lake via a broad bay. “
www.beachapedia.org...

Sun shines from bottom to top of clouds at sun rise.

If the earth was flat, there should be a visible gap between the horizon and clouds when there is no rain / fog present. The clouds should never be blocked by the horizon when there is no rain / fog present.


Meteorite impact craters on earth.

Satellites tracked by radar.




Meet the amateur astronomers who track secretive spy satellites for fun
If Zuma is still up there, these are the people who might spot it.

BY MARY BETH GRIGGS JANUARY 12, 2018

www.popsci.com...


Lake Pontchartrain Power Transmission Lines: Evidence of Earth’s Curvature

flatearth.ws...

Math associated with right triangles proves it’s impossible for objects like the sun and North Star to appear to set beyond the horizon

Earth’s movement and gravity backed by the theory of relativity, and shown in how it measurably impacts time/clocks. And ring laser gyroscopes.

Parabolic Motion of Projectiles

The blast from the Tsar nuclear bomb resulted in seismic waves and atmospheric pressure waves that circled the earth three times.

Distance to the sun measured by parallax

The way comets pivot around the sun.
Solar and lunar eclipses.
Comets pulled into the sun or Jupiter.

Over the horizon radar
Skywaves
Why shortwave has greater broadcast areas than ground FM
Why increasing antenna hight increases broadcast area
The sun sets over the horizon
The seasons
Why certain constellations are only seen from specific hemispheres
Retrograde travel of planets in the sky
Equatorial mounts for telescopes
Why Mars is closer to the earth at times then farther away
Visible man made objects orbiting the earth that were not there in the sky 100 years ago
Satellite TV
You can actually sail around the world
Airplane flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere
Eratosthenes of Cyrene measures circumstance of the earth around 249 BC
Earth's Curvature and Battleship Gunnery
Phases of Venus
Third party verification of Sputnik
Third party verification of moon missions
Third party / amateur verification of satellites in the hundreds. If not thousands
Star parallax
Earth based photos of the International Space Station.
Map projection
Great Circle paths
Long bridges and tunnels need to take in account the earth is curved.
Geodetic Survey.
Bouguer anomaly/survey[



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Look at the picture I posted. "Flat earther" is just an umbrella term for people who don't believe in globe theory. The earth isn't flat like a piece of paper.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 01:23 PM
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originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: neutronflux

Look at the picture I posted. "Flat earther" is just an umbrella term for people who don't believe in globe theory. The earth isn't flat like a piece of paper.


I looked at the picture you posted. I laughed. Now I can't stop laughing....



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Good i'm glad I could provide some humor!
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posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: AncientHeru
All you have to do is walk to know the earth is flat or stand to know we are stable and not spinning.


Never before have I read something so monumentally stupid. Well done.

edit on 16-8-2021 by Kreeate because: typo



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: AncientHeru

According to this map, a standard passenger aircraft would have to travel at Mach 2 or faster to fly between either Africa, Australia or South America within the observed and proven flight time. This patently cannot happen.
edit on 16-8-2021 by TerraLiga because: pressed enter too early because flat-earthers make me nervously twitch



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 03:03 PM
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originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: AncientHeru
All you have to do is walk to know the earth is flat or stand to know we are stable and not spinning.


Never before have I read something so monumentally stupid. Well done.


You ain't read nothing yet kid!
This thread is so full of stupidity from Turbo even my 8 year old grandson laughs at it. He looks forward to the weekends with me and always asks me to show him the latest posts.

He knows the world isn't flat.



posted on Aug, 16 2021 @ 03:03 PM
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Naw, it's facts vs biblical fantasy



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